IRL: 3X01 - "A Tale Of Two Cities" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

Basq

- WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET SEEN "A TALE OF TWO CITIES" -

Episode Title: "A Tale of Two Cities"
Airdate: October 31th 2006

Synopsis (from TV.Com):

Jack, Kate, and Sawyer are held in unique circumstances by the mysterious "Others" as they are now prisoners in their camp. Meanwhile, back on the beach, a struggle for leadership and direction begins as Hurley makes his way back home with bad news about the other members being captured. Lastly, flashbacks reveal more about Jack's past with his father and Sarah.

Next New Episode: 3X02 - The Glass Ballerina - November 7th 2006

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Link to US Discussion Thread

Basq

Seems mad to be posting this LESS than 4 weeks after the US discussion thread..

Anyways, tis locked til closer to airing.

MarkR

Another thread for this ep? Weird. Anyway, was looking at the recap of the last season or two on rte, and was thinking about the lady that threw the explosive onto the boat after the others took walt. Thought it looked a bit like juliet.

Now, yer one on the boot looked dirty and a bit haggard, but they all look like they've been dragged through a hedge backwards. Can't get a good screen shot, but was wondering if they were the same person...

im...LOST

6

Not great tbh.

We still don't have a clue what is going on!

That doesn't mean that I'm gonna stop watching though

Crucifix

7

Jack was great in this one, outside the flashbacks at least. It was thought it was good, but I was sad not to find out what happened in the hatch. Oh well.

Basq

Crucifix wrote:

Jack was great in this one, outside the flashbacks at least.

Yeah.. i must agree! On a re-watch, i enjoyed Matthew Fox's WTF moments throughout this episode.

Vorsprung

FFS ridiculously annoying. No answers, just more and more questions. Patience wearing thin hear, really need something to stop me plling my hair out

GBX

8

tonights episode was another strange one. I enjoyed it. Makes interesting viewing and anticpation for the coming episodes.

eamoss

Bah didnt really answer anything :mad:

They cant keep on doing this! Its gonna be the end of me!!

Jello

7

Quite mediocre. Still lots of un-answered questions but the opening scene where we see the plane crashing from the Others' houses was very good.

wow sierra

3

Opening scene leading up to plane crash really good -but downhill after that. I find Jacks story a bit irritating so that might be why!! I hope it improves when the rest of the characters come into it.

NUTZZ

I never really expected this episode to answer any questions, as has become the trend with LOST, but overall I was extremely dissapointed with this episode, especially as a season opener. Apart from the opening scene (where I might add, the CGI plane looked terrible) the whole episode was very poor, no plot development and only four main characters appearing in it. Jack's flashback's, same as usual, arguing with father and ex-wife, waste of time. All I can say is, I hope the next few episodes pick up, but I won't hold my breath. Thank god for Prison Break.

quazzy

5

Have to agree with most ppl here. I only gave it 6. Not a good opener for a season. Intro was decent but the rest just seemed a bit laboured and even boring.

I'll give it a few weeks though.

prospect

5

Firstly, thank GOD its back.

Secondly:
WTF!!
"on the beach, a struggle for leadership and direction begins as Hurley makes his way back home with bad news about the other members being captured"
I don't remember any of this happening.....

djkeogh

6

It got a 7 from me. Raises more questions again and again. I don't anticipate this show anymore I only watch it cause there's not much else on it's slot.

Gillie

6

Gave it a 7 also. Delighted that it's back. Opening seen was a WTF moment.
Roll on next week!!!

ISAW

wow sierra wrote:

Opening scene leading up to plane crash really good -but downhill after that. I find Jacks story a bit irritating so that might be why!! I hope it improves when the rest of the characters come into it.

The take where the camers pulls out from the Others settlement was gripping.

But it DID tell us something.

1. The others leader is in fact a leader because he gave orders to then to infiltrate the plane crash victime.

2. It isnt necessary to live in atmospheric isolation so if any drugs are taken by them it isnt because of an Air Spread threat but probably a contact threat.

3. The leader tole the guy to pretend to be a victim. He also mentioned the wreck would be on the far side of the Island and I think "you will get there in six hours". this gives you an idea of the dimension of the island given that the others settlement was beside the coast.

4. the architecture of the houses and book club civilisation are American. all of the charachters appear to be American as well. By the title of the Stephen King novel one can establish a date for a link they had with outside society.

5. The magnetic device from the hatch was capable of causing an earthquake on the far side of the island.

6. Why did the others insist on the four people on the list only to instantly free Hurley?

7. The indoctrination process will take two weeks (the leader said "the next two weeks will be very difficult" to Kate at breakfast on the beach.

8. The three captives are being treated in different ways.

9. the place where jack is being held captive is under sea level or a large water source or lake. I was surprised they could close a half filled door. I would think it would require the door to "fill" before pressure could be low enough to close it. We will let the producers away whit breaking the laws of physics for entertainment purposes. But it would have been better if the other said "we have to work together. we have to wait till the room fills over the door and then dive down and close it and then press the button". then the stubborn Jack would be in a position where he was co operating and not just acting to save his own life.

10. the guy who worked in the hatch and had the sail boat repaired to escape didnt use it!

homerjk

One thing always puzzled me about the plane crash and it puzzles me even more now that we see the tail section broke up over the island... Desmond put forward the idea that he caused the plane crash beacuse he didnt put in the numbers in time and caused the magnet to go off... But once I heard this the first time I always thought back to the fact the pilot said the were over a 1000 miles off course in the first place!

So are they trying to say the magnet pulled them in from that far out or (the more feasible explanation) it only caused the plane to crash because it was in the general area and then if that is the case then there has to be something else that was attracting it to the island apart from the non-entering off the numbers!

Oh the humanity!

MeTV

Homer, watch "Pilot" again, the pilot had diverted the plane off course from L.A. to Fiji because their communications had gone down, which is standard procedure.

ISAW, we knew number 10 already from Desmond's falshback when we saw Desmond kill him.

Was mildly amused that, in order to get food, James had to figure out a puzzle of sorts, Jack had to learn to trust Julliette but Kate just had to flutter her eyelids at James

Mildly puzzled by the fact that Ben wasn't expecting Ethan and Goodwin to report back for 3 days but sent people out to kidnap tailies on the night of the crash.

After watching this episode I was slightly disappointed, but the more I think about it and what we did actually learn, the more I'm enjoying it.

trishw78

homerjk wrote:

10. the guy who worked in the hatch and had the sail boat repaired to escape didnt use it!

that's cause desmond killed him and caused the plane crash

joe_chicken

8

prospect wrote:

"on the beach, a struggle for leadership and direction begins as Hurley makes his way back home with bad news about the other members being captured"
I don't remember any of this happening.....

Ditto.

Thought it was a great episode though... Jack was very good and the tension was kept up excellently

Anyone who was waiting for answers in the first episode of a series... ain't gonna find them.

The writing has become excellent since the first series, so I've kinda got distracted from the fact they don't answer anything.

Let's hope they can listen to Stephen King and finish up on a high note

Finish it well

SoSueMe

9

I thought it was great. There were little nuggets of information throughtout the episode such as the cages were for the polar bears and the the cell where Jack was being held was for the sharks (and dolphins) according to Julliet.
Also Elizabeth Mitchel as Julliet was brilliant. I thought there was great chemistry between her and Matthew Fox.
Finally, who thinks Julliet and Henry were married? I got the impression that they were. Ben "I guess I'm out of the bookclub."

jefreywithonef

Thought it was underwhelming. Start was ok - the explosion of the plane looked a bit unrealistic however.

Jack was less annoying than usual for me - in saying that, the flashback was boring crap once again.

Overall it was a decent episode and gets a 6/10.

Hugh_C

prospect wrote:

WTF!!
"on the beach, a struggle for leadership and direction begins as Hurley makes his way back home with bad news about the other members being captured"
I don't remember any of this happening.....

glad someone else said that before me - neither did i

Elmo

7

For the first time I thought Jack's flash backs where interesting, how ever I was also coming to the conclussion that Jack's Father and Ex where having an affair, which was leading me to understand why Jack didn't back up his Father in the investigation into the death of a patient in the last 2 series, and then that conclusion went out the window. :rolleyes:

As for the parts in the Island:-

The music was becoming very Prisoner-esque NOT GOOD. Annoying at times.

Rather then answer any of the questions that we previously had they ask new ones and forget about the old ones.

I thought it was a good episode and it was great to see the series back.

Killaqueen!!!

5

Thought the opening scene was good. Wouldn't say the rest was <i>crap</i> - for some reason I'm always entertained by Lost even if the episodes aren't great or don't tell us much. That said, I'm not bothered about getting answers in the first episode of the series though I do wish theyd answer SOME questions.

Still, I liked it if purely on the fantastic acting. Anything with Michael Emerson is great. Loved the scene by the beach; "I did all these things so you would feel civilised. Because, Kate....the next two weeks are not going to be pleasant." Brilliant!

Also liked the flashbacks of Jack. Didn't tell us much but it showed great acting and we saw Jacks emotional side which I always love. I

So can we take it that it was the others who released the polar bear and it in fact had nothing to do with Walt? Also, the sharks in that scene from season two.....

Baby4

6

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DeepBlue

8

Some random thoughts on this episode..........

Juliet (to Jack when he asks if the Others are what's left of the Dharma Initiative)
"It doesn't matter who we were. It only matters who we are".

Sarah (to Jack when he asks if the guy waiting outside the station is her new partner.
"It doesn't matter who he is. It just matters who you're not".

Did this jump out at any one considering the Seventh Seal theory ?

Juliet seems to be having some sort of breakdown at the beginning yet in all other episodes so far she seems calm and unflappable. What's all that about?

Does anyone know what the book they were reading was?
My guess is

Carrie

. Does it matter though as another book club member said "it has no metaphor". Am I reading too much into this?

Just as an aside - even though the house was shaking in the "earthquake" and items were crashing off walls etc, yet none of the precacariously balanced coffee cups fell off any of the tables .
This, however, might be more to do with the camera shake effect to mimic the "earthquake" rather than any inherent abilities of the island .