the mulhall murder

thebaz

the mulhall murder case is all over the sundays today , can a society sink much lower . The mother and 2 daughters get drunk , then take ecsasty together, the mothers boyfreind, makes a move on the daugher. The boyfreind gets stabbed , then his body is dimembered , and body parts dumped in the canal. The boyfreind had a history of abuse to his partner , and had it coming in my opinion, and is no loss to society..But just reading the background to the case ,the bioligical father commited suicide last year , the 2 girls work as prostituse and are in abusive relationships themselves . has Irish society sunk to a new low ? its like something from dantes inferno , not modern day Ireland !

bluto63

There's always people like this in society, you can't fix it

MrJoeSoap

Not to mention that at least one of the daughters had a heroin problem.

Dave!

Nope, that family is just particularly scummy.

Wertz

I don't think I've ever seen a more literal use of "dismembered"...

mike65

That family is the "Underclass" in profile. Total trash on one level and yet proberly could have been a completely different story with an intervention at some point in the past.

Mike.

cjt156

Funny, underclass was exactly the word that came to mind.
These people live outside the realm of "normal" society; violence and abuse is the norm, alcohol and drugs are a crutch to get through the day. School, jobs, responsibilities are not a part of their reality.
Sad situation; could easily have been reading headlines about how a family were destroyed by a murderous "foreign national".
No winners here.

Miss Fluff

The Tribune refers to them as the "underclass" also. The mother doesn't sound completely blameless either imo. Nearly brought up my breakfast reading about it this morning.

Wertz

Aye....it'd put you right off your sausage sandwich...

Fanny Cradock

My prediction: the harshest ruling will be a 5 year sentence (of which 2 will be suspended). One of the girls has a newborn, and, given the disparity in the law in such matters, I cant see this being a 10 year deal (for any of them).

I was in a taxi there a week ago and the taxi man claimed that one of suspects is well known around the area (on the game). Apparently she's a complete nut job - the whole stabbing, killing and dismemberment thing would also indicate this - and now the taxi drivers are terrified that she'll strangle them with their seat belts or some such if they give her a lift. They wont go near her, and, instead, scurry into the shops to avoid her or the entire taxi rank will instantly clear if she heads towards them.

mike65

Now that sounds like taxi-driver talk.

Mike.

Fanny Cradock

Well, he was a taxi driver and he was talking. So, yeah!



All with a pinch of salt i think

FlutterinBantam

The whole packet,and the shaker.

Obviously not a National Radio Cabs man;)

Fanny Cradock

But he swore on his mother's grave that it was the truth... :eek:

Chucky the tree

cjt156 wrote:

Funny, underclass was exactly the word that came to mind.
These people live outside the realm of "normal" society; violence and abuse is the norm, alcohol and drugs are a crutch to get through the day. School, jobs, responsibilities are not a part of their reality.
Sad situation; could easily have been reading headlines about how a family were destroyed by a murderous "foreign national".
No winners here.

Is there not a mandatory sentence if found guilty of murder?

Miss Fluff

Yeah, life sentence is always mandatory for murder. Other sister was found guilty of manslaughter though.

Dave!

Chucky the tree wrote:

Is there not a mandatory sentence if found guilty of murder?

Yeah, life

Chucky the tree

whats life though? minimum 10 years?

thebaz

This case/story has everything -
murder, suicide , abuse, heroin, family eating ecstacy, body parts, foreign nationals, prostitution -

i know its haloween , maybe i should bid for the film rights or documentary !

But in all this horror, 3 things struck me :-

Mother and children sharing ecstacy , this is permissivness gone mad !

The murder took place when all where high on ecstacy , as well as some of the body cutting -- i know during my E days , when i was high, i loved everyone !
And finally one of the daughters has a one year old , who she is pleading to bring up in prison.
Its just depravity gone mental !.

whiskeyman

Didn't this all happen on St Patricks day, when they were poppin pills and doing E on the boardwalk?

No better way to celebrate out national holiday...

Karoma

thebaz wrote:

This case/story has everything -
murder, suicide , abuse, heroin, family eating ecstacy, body parts, foreign nationals, prostitution -

Most stories in the rags you read have "everything" if they decide to give it enough column space. Thanks for sharing; I look forward to tomorrow's thread.

Decisively on-topic: Down with this sort of thing.

Rb

Has Irish society sunk to a new low?No. They were scum, already at the bottom of society and I somehow doubt that their antics have dragged down our society as a whole down with them.

thebaz

Karoma wrote:

Most stories in the rags you read have "everything" if they decide to give it enough column space. Thanks for sharing; I look forward to tomorrow's thread.

.

Well you must read different stories to me, cause most stories i read have not got all these ingrediants !

Huggles

Karoma wrote:

Most stories in the rags you read have "everything" if they decide to give it enough column space. Thanks for sharing; I look forward to tomorrow's thread.

Decisively on-topic: Down with this sort of thing.

Karoma have you followed this case at all? Even a 10 second snippet from the radio would have told you that 'everything' as the other user pointed out are facts in this case.

Its nothign to do with the 'Rags'

Wertz

Aye, even the red tops couldn't make this stuff up...

Karoma

I didn't deny that the facts of this case as reported by the media; I just implied that reports from the media should be taken with a pinch of salt - especially by a particular user who seems to react to every sensational event reported by certain newspapers by creating a new and wonderful thread.

RandolphEsq

The whole story is actually pretty funny to me. The way the women acted was so dramatically. Its like they followed movies as a guide for murder. Cut up the body and the head so it cant be identified. And then carrying the head around on a bus in a bag. lol its like some black comedy

rondeco

BrightEyes wrote:

The whole story is actually pretty funny to me. The way the women acted was so dramatically. Its like they followed movies as a guide for murder. Cut up the body and the head so it cant be identified. And then carrying the head around on a bus in a bag. lol its like some black comedy

Yeah, real funny.:rolleyes:

thebaz

Karoma wrote:

I didn't deny that the facts of this case as reported by the media; I just implied that reports from the media should be taken with a pinch of salt - especially by a particular user who seems to react to every sensational event reported by certain newspapers by creating a new and wonderful thread.

i thought one of the functions of boards , was to discuss relevent newsworthy issues , thanks for putting me straight !

Thrill

BrightEyes wrote:

The whole story is actually pretty funny to me. The way the women acted was so dramatically. Its like they followed movies as a guide for murder. Cut up the body and the head so it cant be identified. And then carrying the head around on a bus in a bag. lol its like some black comedy

Sounds more like the a plot for "Saw Four" to me. He must have been
pretty desperate to have been hanging around with those three horrors.
Talk about loseing your head over an auld "doll". I feel sorry for the baby though. Imagine having to go through life with a background like that.

mike65

from indo

"Scissor Sisters"

The trial of Charlotte and Linda Mulhall reads like the script for a nightmarish American crime movie. A mother, now missing, alleges she was repeatedly abused by her boyfriend. The assaults are serious stuff. She attends hospital and complains to gardai.

After a night out drinking and taking Ecstasy, the boyfriend makes a pass at one of her daughters. He is persistent and has a violent history, including rape. The mother, who crushed up an Ecstasy tablet and spiked her boyfriend's drink so that he be on the same "buzz", tires of his conduct.

"Please just kill him for me," she says. Charlotte obliges (a pathology report indicates that the boyfriend is stabbed more than 20 times). Linda later tells gardai that she hit the victim with a hammer after her sister cut his throat with a stanley blade.

What next mam, the girls ask as they ponder Noor's lifeless corpse? "Just cut him up," she says. And so they do. Linda and Charlotte Mulhall take it in turns to decapitate and dismember their mother's lover.

Chopping a body to bits is laborious work: they spend several hours sawing up the body with a bread knife and hammer before taking several trips to the Royal Canal to dispose of it. Sports bags conceal the horror from passers-by.

Afterwards, the trio take the severed head (the penis is still missing) on a bus trip to Tallaght where it is buried in a park. But something tells Linda to go back. She does, moving the head to another location before bringing it in her son's schoolbag to a remote field in Tallaght. She kisses the bag and tells her mam's boyfriend that she is sorry.

The dead man was no saint not that it excuses his death of course.

Mike.

Dooom

Jesus...that's just disturbing.

EKRIUQ

Have they found or do they know where his head or mickey are yet.
Maybe they ate the mickey with a glass of chanti like Hannibal Lecter,

hannibal Lector wrote:

" i ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chanti "

Thrill

you can get them on ebay

ferdi

cjt156 wrote:

Funny, underclass was exactly the word that came to mind.
These people live outside the realm of "normal" society; violence and abuse is the norm, alcohol and drugs are a crutch to get through the day.

to say these problems relate to people 'out side normal society' is just plain wrong. that family are society. and the upperclasses get through plenty of alchol, drugs and violence themselves.