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deal or no deal?

  • 26-10-2006 11:49am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭


    Fitz €40 Re-buy last night.
    1st: €3,300
    2nd: €1,700
    3rd: €1,000

    Its 4am and since we've been 3 handed, fitz regular is complaining that he has to be at work at 6.30 am that we should chop it 3 ways - 2k each.

    I don't want to do a deal as I know his game is gonna be sluggish if he's as tired as he's letting on. The third guy makes it easy by saying he wants to play on and I don't even get asked.

    We play for 10-15 mins more, all pretty even stacked, and the two guys get it all in with pocket Jacks and Twos!! :eek:
    Jacks hold up and we're heads up but I'm out chipped 2:1

    We go back and forth for 30 mins and I drag myself into a slight chip lead. I'm confident I've got the better of him and just need to keep picking away at his stack to grind him down.

    So the offer of the deal pops up again because he's in such a rush to get out of there. I look at the clock and there's 15 mins left in the blind level. I decide that I don't want this to go on all night either but I've got him on the ropes so I tell him that if we're even at the end of the level we'll chop it 2.5k each.

    He's visibly pissed that we don't chop it straight away and he turns to hyper aggressive mode. Prob is this is when the cards on dry up for me and he's snapping off my raises and re-raises like no mans business! I can't wake up with a hand to stand up to him!

    We're just coming to the end of the level and he raises big on the button as usual. I see KcQc and move over the top all-in to take it off him pre-flop. He wakes up with JhJd and calls in a flash!!

    I've got him slightly covered so its not over if I loose but my opponent says in what I think is a joking way "Before we deal it out do you still want to chop it?"

    I quip back, "Yea why not!".......not expecting that he's being serious he extends his hand and says "Ok, lets chops it."

    So what do you do?
    Get your gamboool on and flip a coin for €1600 or shake the man's hand and chop it like a little biatch?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Shake his hand and chop it immediately.

    Saying no to the deal has a negative expectation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Scouser in Dub


    shake the mans hand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Gamble for €500, chop the rest...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Deal. No regrets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Shake the mans hand, tell him he is a gentleman, and thank him sincerely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Lex


    Ste05 wrote:
    Gamble for €500, chop the rest...

    Good idea Ste. This didnt even occur to me in the heat of the moment. One lives, one learns.

    I'd never put €800 on red or black on the roulette table so I took the deal.

    gg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    Did u play the hand out to see what would have happened?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    I gamble here

    for the crack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I gamble here

    for the crack


    You big degenerate...






    Easy chop. Despite my gambling instincts...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Lex


    Flushdraw wrote:
    Did u play the hand out to see what would have happened?

    Luke lashed it out alright "for the craic!". :D

    The board came club,club,club,blank,blank giving me the 2nd nuts. :rolleyes:

    Dems da breaks. Happy with the 2.5k at that stage. Waaay better than 1.7k!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Rnger


    you say you were a slight chip leader when it got heads-up, then he goes on to snap off all your raises... so your currently 2nd in chips when the deal is proposed? Defo take the deal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    You should have done the deal before this when he offer it to you first place, 2.5k each and the winner only getting 3.3k and 2nd 1.7k. Heads up play as very little to do with skill and more to do with luck, one bad beat or miscall or steal attempt and its all over. Take the deal earlier in future unless the difference is bigger.

    What he did was very fair and I think you should do the days work for him also.

    but I hate doing deals also....lol.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Sounds like Pat Vickers to me. Well done Lex, you played very well for the time I was at your table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Lex


    It was very generous of him yes.

    But ollie when we got heads up and he was 2:1 chips lead the deal offer didnt come up and I was happy to play it out.

    Talk of a deal only came up again when I got into the chip lead. Shrewd. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Silver-Tiger


    I agree 100% with you takin the deal. It was very nice of him.

    If they were on there back and it was you with JJ and he was the one that had to catch up.
    Would you still be so quick to do the deal ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭smurph


    I think it was a great offer, you had to hit, he already had a pair of Jacks.

    Nice result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    Lex wrote:
    The flop came club,club,club,blank,blank giving me the 2nd nuts. :rolleyes:

    told ya


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Hmm, why is everyone saying that the JJ guy was being generous to offer the deal. He knows it's barely more than a coin-flip (I assume both hands were turned over), so he's almost taking a gamble for €1700 as well. I reckon he was just protecting himself as much as anything.

    If Lex had turned over TT, does anyone think the deal would have been offered?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    If Lex had turned over TT, does anyone think the deal would have been offered?


    I very much doubt it.

    I think he was just being sensible and not risking 800 on a coin flip.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Hmm, why is everyone saying that the JJ guy was being generous to offer the deal. He knows it's barely more than a coin-flip (I assume both hands were turned over), so he's almost taking a gamble for €1700 as well. I reckon he was just protecting himself as much as anything.
    I completely agree, in fact he had more to lose as Lex had him covered. Chip and a chair and all that. This was just smart business, not some kind of saintly act. There is no way this equal split deal would be offered even if it was A10 against JJ, never mind 1010.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    it was equitable for both to deal, and that why he offerred im sure. i cant see why anyoen would want to deal for 800 quid when they have someone dominated, that would just be ridiculous. i think offerring with JJ is decent,not saintly, but still decent. so fare play to him, also well done lex


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