Is the monthly €270 Crapshoot on in the Fitz this week?

BigCityBanker

ty.

Flushdraw

BigCityBanker wrote:

ty.

Its part of their schedule for the big week of games. Havent played it before because of the bad rep it has for its crapshootiness but might give it a go this week.

El Stuntman

it is pure muck

(which is probably why I'll be dabbling in Blind Omaha at 8.45pm this Thursday, seeya there Noel)

LuckyLloyd

This tournament has a godawful structure (considering the buy - in). If I was you fellas, I would save my €270 and put it towards the €500 game at the weekend, or play a side game in the EPT.

El Stuntman

LuckyLloyd wrote:

This tournament has a godawful structure (considering the buy - in). If I was you fellas, I would save my €270 and put it towards the €500 game at the weekend, or play a side game in the EPT.

sure don't you know we're incredibly rich eccentrics and have money to burn??

BigCityBanker

El Stuntman wrote:

sure don't you know we're incredibly rich eccentrics and have money to burn??

ianmc38

El Stuntman wrote:

sure don't you know we're incredibly rich eccentrics and have money to burn??

Thought as much.

El Stuntman

ianmc38 wrote:

Thought as much.

it is the only rational explanation

bottom feeder

Flushdraw wrote:

Its part of their schedule for the big week of games. Havent played it before because of the bad rep it has for its crapshootiness but might give it a go this week.

flushdraw dont lie..... i seem to remember you playing in that once or twice.... ya mad FISH .....:rolleyes:

Flushdraw

bottom feeder wrote:

flushdraw dont lie..... i seem to remember you playing in that once or twice.... ya mad FISH .....:rolleyes:

Oh sorry bottom feeder, ur right. I went one night, decided to just play a cash game instead but i heard a call for a last minute blind omaha and managed to river someone. 20 minutes later i was back in my cashgame seat..........

bottom feeder

Flushdraw wrote:

Oh sorry bottom feeder, ur right. I went one night, decided to just play a cash game instead but i heard a call for a last minute blind omaha and managed to river someone. 20 minutes later i was back in my cashgame seat..........

ohhhhhh i see and that was it ...... yeah .....!
Fcukin B@ll@x... man accept it flush, your where in that tourney more than once.. but sucked out... lol well done..

ianmc38

Flushdraw wrote:

Oh sorry bottom feeder, ur right. I went one night, decided to just play a cash game instead but i heard a call for a last minute blind omaha and managed to river someone. 20 minutes later i was back in my cashgame seat..........

FFS If i'd known about your blind Omaha prowess I'd never have let you coax me into playing you heads up.

QQ35 on a Q24 flop.

How the fook can I compete with that shít? Sick.

eoghan104

what time does the freeroll start for this lads?

ollyk1

eoghan104 wrote:

what time does the freeroll start for this lads?

They've scrapped the freeroll beforehand Eoghan (last month anyway) just €30 and €60 sats now.

El Stuntman

ollyk1 wrote:

They've scrapped the freeroll beforehand Eoghan (last month anyway) just €30 and €60 sats now.

start times please for these sats? structures? (Excl. the blind omaha)

ollyk1

El Stuntman wrote:

start times please for these sats? structures? (Excl. the blind omaha)

10 minute levels. Blinds double up every level. Starting stack 1.5k. Kick -off when they have 10 players. Generally from 5.30 onwards. In short, welcome to the town of crapshoot population you.

El Stuntman

ollyk1 wrote:

10 minute levels. Blinds double up every level. Starting stack 1.5k. Kick -off when they have 10 players. Generally from 5.30 onwards. In short, welcome to the town of crapshoot population you.

ty sir, most helpful

sikes

there aint much value in playing the stts, just stick to the one handed game, way more enjoyable

eoghan104

ollyk1 wrote:

They've scrapped the freeroll beforehand Eoghan (last month anyway) just €30 and €60 sats now.

thanks olly, so 5 handed €60 games go on? or ten handed with 2 tickets?

Flushdraw

ianmc38 wrote:

FFS If i'd known about your blind Omaha prowess I'd never have let you coax me into playing you heads up.

QQ35 on a Q24 flop.

How the fook can I compete with that shít? Sick.

Unfortunetly Ian, i outplayed you from start to finish. I was ahead preflop, on the flop, turn and river. I'm immune to your suckout capabilites. If we had a 6th and 7th street, you still wouldnt have caught up. Just face it, i'm a far superior blind omaha player than you.

Still have a long way to go to reach 5starpools level though...

5starpool

Flushdraw wrote:

Unfortunetly Ian, i outplayed you from start to finish. I was ahead preflop, on the flop, turn and river. I'm immune to your suckout capabilites. If we had a 6th and 7th street, you still wouldnt have caught up. Just face it, i'm a far superior blind omaha player than you.

Still have a long way to go to reach 5starpools level though...

I shall be attempting to enhance my reputation in this speciality field at approximately 8.34pm tomorrow. One go only though.

ollyk1

eoghan104 wrote:

thanks olly, so 5 handed €60 games go on? or ten handed with 2 tickets?

10 handed with two tickets. It's probably a better sat to play as there is less chance of a deal being agreed three handed, so if you play and place you can at least have a full ticket.

The €30 sat often ends up being chopped becasue the blinds are crazy and people are just open pushing so you end up in a 50/50, 40/60, 60/40 coin flip for €270 at the end of the sat if you are lucky.

Better to play the SE tonight Eoghan and if you win >€270 or more then pay in tomorrow imho but I still go and play the odd satellite myself as I can't help myself!

eoghan104

ollyk1 wrote:

10 handed with two tickets. It's probably a better sat to play as there is less chance of a deal being agreed three handed, so if you play and place you can at least have a full ticket.

The €30 sat often ends up being chopped becasue the blinds are crazy and people are just open pushing so you end up in a 50/50, 40/60, 60/40 coin flip for €270 at the end of the sat if you are lucky.

Better to play the SE tonight Eoghan and if you win >€270 or more then pay in tomorrow imho but I still go and play the odd satellite myself as I can't help myself!

Im going to Edinburugh for a lads weekend on Friday so if I was to play 2nite and 2moro nite the auld missus would have some stern words for me to say the least so im afraid that’s a non runner tonight! Ill just luckbox my way in 2moro!

Worm was right when he said that women are the rake in life!!

BigCityBanker

who is in for this then?

If I choose to play im gonna try not to get El Stuntmaned this time around.

smurph

Yeah im going tonight...... c you there BigCityBanker

ps. not doing a Chief brody on this but did anyone tell you you look like a young Nick Leeson?

The whole working in a bank thingy....scary

El Stuntman

I'll play a satellite or three

Ollieboy

smurph wrote:

Yeah im going tonight...... c you there BigCityBanker

ps. not doing a Chief brody on this but did anyone tell you you look like a young Nick Leeson?

The whole working in a bank thingy....scary

Would you believe one or two or even a couple of people on this site thought he was Nick Leeson!!!! Mad.

The real Nick lives in Galway and is very common face on the local poker scene around Ireland.

Should be there tonight if I can keep myself awake and please Smurph, dont sit on my table, I mean that in the nicest way....unless your in a kind mood to give chips away for a change.

El Stuntman

smurph wrote:

ps. not doing a Chief brody on this but did anyone tell you you look like a young Nick Leeson?

LOL, well spotted Smurph!!!

BigCityBanker

smurph wrote:

Yeah im going tonight...... c you there BigCityBanker

ps. not doing a Chief brody on this but did anyone tell you you look like a young Nick Leeson?

The whole working in a bank thingy....scary

I am known to many of my pals as Nick. (due to the obvious likeness)

Ollie - I did cop that - How do you tell a child that santa doesnt exist?

5starpool

I shall be there and will hopefully fill in another couple of gaps in my boards people profiles.

BigDragon

BigCityBanker wrote:

I am known to many of my pals as Nick. (due to the obvious likeness)

Ollie - I did cop that - How do you tell a child that santa doesnt exist?

There goes a carefully crafted 'gambloooooor' image down the drain.

Ollieboy

Just in and out, got all my money in for 23k pot with KK against 99 and AK 3 way and a 9 on the river and I'm home playing online.

105 players and 18 getting paid, there was about 50 left when I got knock
out.

Bigdragon, Smurph and a few others were still alive when I went out.

Shortstack

Ollieboy wrote:

Would you believe one or two or even a couple of people on this site thought he was Nick Leeson!!!! Mad.

The real Nick lives in Galway and is very common face on the local poker scene around Ireland.

Should be there tonight if I can keep myself awake and please Smurph, dont sit on my table, I mean that in the nicest way....unless your in a kind mood to give chips away for a change.

Maybe because he was telling people that roguetrader had his nickname.....

Goodluck2me

the blinds were extended in this tonight to 45 mins at least later on in it. 15 remained at 5am. 9k, 4500 were 1/2nd afair, so not quite so crapshooty. think it was 1K.2k blinds

smurph

gone at 3.40 a.m. with the honor of the bubble:(

Ah well, home 3 hours sleep and im bright as a button in work at moment:eek: :eek:

Moved table and got fancy with 88 until 10 10 decided to go all in and I got crippled.

Then it was all in for about half and hour. Built my 3K up to 11,850. Then utg with blinds 1K2K and a 200 ante I went all in with Qs5s, met AsJs in the big blind.

flop had a beautiful 5 but alas an Ace on the turn and Im doing the slow walk down the stairs.

The new ante structure was good, although it caught out a few dealers, who took the antes in and then put the flop up, with dealing us any cards. Amusing.

Not breaking for dinner was actually a good idea, if a little bit frantic for the waitress and staff.

eoghan104

I managed to win 2/3 of ticket via a satellite so paid the rest myself. Went out not long after the break in an uneventfull tourney for me! I wasnt huge on the structure to be honest and id much prefer to play the SE game in future. The running antes come in very early (4th level) and double every level from there so each round gets expensive. They need to do a bit of tweaking but i think they will.

I played some Omaha cash and myself and 5starpool were hoovering up chips at the table. I finished of with my biggest winning night ever so a great night for me!!!

Flushdraw

eoghan104 wrote:

I finished of with my biggest winning night ever so a great night for me!!!

You can say that again! Everything u touched turned to gold and you got paid off well when you had the nuts more than once. Thats your whole weekend paid for for a few hours work. Nice one

eoghan104

Flushdraw wrote:

You can say that again! Everything u touched turned to gold and you got paid off well when you had the nuts more than once. Thats your whole weekend paid for for a few hours work. Nice one

Was that you on my left? I didnt realise you shouldve introduced yourself. Nice to meet you anyway. Yeh the deck was hitting me in the face all night to be fair!!!

Flushdraw

No i was on the button when u were BB. One of the only people that managed to take a pot or 2 off u for the night, with a little help from the river i might add....!

Solksjaer

some grey haired skinny ol fella in a suit n glasses destroyed my stack by calling with a gut shot and hitting...I was blindddddddd to his fishyness

so who won, the reyes shark had a good stck when I as leaving

5starpool

Solksjaer wrote:

some grey haired skinny ol fella in a suit n glasses destroyed my stack by calling with a gut shot and hitting...I was blindddddddd to his fishyness

so who won, the reyes shark had a good stck when I as leaving

That was Des Carney, the bookie. He knocked me out too. I stayed to watch the final table until about 7am when they were still heads up. I don't know either of their names although I have seen them in there a few times. Dennis didn't make the final table, his AKs no match for AJs. Paul Fox came 4th, some older Northern gent came 3rd, Paul Cryan came 8th, and Gavan Bollard came 6th, and the rest were people I didn't know.

My opinion on the structure is this:
An extra 1k starting chips were welcome, but did not really make up for the early introduction of antes, especially when the antes were increasing every level. However Luke responded to comments and from 300-600 increased the levels to 45 mins, so fair play to him on that. Unfortunately it was too late for me as I was firmly trapped in the push or fold situation. When it got down to heads up though the blinds were 4k/8k with a 500 ante and 636,000 chips in play, so plenty of play room left there. I think there are several pertinent points about the structure of this event.

1. It is impossible to have a good structure, one day event that starts at that time and caters to over 100 people, so in a way it is a victim of its own success.
2. Luke is trying to find a way to have the best fit possible, as evidenced by the decision to increase blind levels last night.
3. Luke was talking about making this a 2 day event from next month on. This is not really a runner if it stays on Thursday I think as loads of lads come from the north etc for it., so it might have to move to Saturday if they are serious about this.
4. Anytime the structure is made more playable, the moaners are the most vocal minority and get it changed in some restrictive way by making it quicker.

It is quite a connumdrum alright, but I think the best possible route would be the compromise one.

Advertise start time as 7 (probably get going by 8). Have all 30 minute levels.
25 50
50 100
75 150
100 200
150 300
150 300 25
200 400 25
300 600 50
400 800 50
etc etc

I will say something along these lines to Luke, but I am no expert so I don't know if the above could expect to get it finish by 6am (I think the notional ideal finish time for this).

A deal was mentioned at 5.30 when 4 handed for 4.5k each, but rejected, and when I left it didnt look like a deal was going to be made for 6750 each either. They both seemed like good players, apart from one of the guys quirky tendency literally flip a coin to decide whether to call or not. It worked out each of the 3 times I seen him do it though

5starpool

eoghan104 wrote:

I played some Omaha cash and myself and 5starpool were hoovering up chips at the table. I finished of with my biggest winning night ever so a great night for me!!!

I took up where you left off Eoghan, and didn't leave with as much as you but not that far off. My best cash game night ever too strangely enough.

Solksjaer

Bloody play all night to get called on a 3 outer.....how could i put him on it

ah sure, anyway i quite liked the structure. It was an enjoyable tournament.

think the bookie fellow is a bit of an omaha type player...ie you must bet BIg to stop the guy fishing....If only id known

5starpool

Solksjaer wrote:

Bloody play all night to get called on a 3 outer.....how could i put him on it

ah sure, anyway i quite liked the structure. It was an enjoyable tournament.

think the bookie fellow is a bit of an omaha type player...ie you must bet BIg to stop the guy fishing....If only id known

At one stage he raised all in on the button, and I called ith KT soooted, and he flipped over 74soooted. I doubled up but then gave it all back to him. He is very slow to act, but very aggressive when he does. He likes to gamble big time.

Solksjaer

well now i know and out in 24th i went :mad: i blame myself though, my greed for chips blinded me to the gutshot. 2 pair no match

BigCityBanker

I didnt realise he was a bookie.

LuckyLloyd

5starpool wrote:

That was Des Carney, the bookie. He knocked me out too. I stayed to watch the final table until about 7am when they were still heads up. I don't know either of their names although I have seen them in there a few times. Dennis didn't make the final table, his AKs no match for AJs. Paul Fox came 4th, some older Northern gent came 3rd, Paul Cryan came 8th, and Gavan Bollard came 6th, and the rest were people I didn't know.

My opinion on the structure is this:
An extra 1k starting chips were welcome, but did not really make up for the early introduction of antes, especially when the antes were increasing every level. However Luke responded to comments and from 300-600 increased the levels to 45 mins, so fair play to him on that. Unfortunately it was too late for me as I was firmly trapped in the push or fold situation. When it got down to heads up though the blinds were 4k/8k with a 500 ante and 636,000 chips in play, so plenty of play room left there. I think there are several pertinent points about the structure of this event.

1. It is impossible to have a good structure, one day event that starts at that time and caters to over 100 people, so in a way it is a victim of its own success.
2. Luke is trying to find a way to have the best fit possible, as evidenced by the decision to increase blind levels last night.
3. Luke was talking about making this a 2 day event from next month on. This is not really a runner if it stays on Thursday I think as loads of lads come from the north etc for it., so it might have to move to Saturday if they are serious about this.
4. Anytime the structure is made more playable, the moaners are the most vocal minority and get it changed in some restrictive way by making it quicker.

It is quite a connumdrum alright, but I think the best possible route would be the compromise one.

Advertise start time as 7 (probably get going by 8). Have all 30 minute levels.
25 50
50 100
75 150
100 200
150 300
150 300 25
200 400 25
300 600 50
400 800 50
etc etc

I will say something along these lines to Luke, but I am no expert so I don't know if the above could expect to get it finish by 6am (I think the notional ideal finish time for this).

A deal was mentioned at 5.30 when 4 handed for 4.5k each, but rejected, and when I left it didnt look like a deal was going to be made for 6750 each either. They both seemed like good players, apart from one of the guys quirky tendency literally flip a coin to decide whether to call or not. It worked out each of the 3 times I seen him do it though

Good constructive post Dom. I think the above structure with a 5,000 starting stack might work. However, surely the way to go with this one is to move it to a Saturday, increase the structure and bring a final table back on a Sunday if neccesary? The prize pool would definately bring people back to play it out.

IMO, having the Monkey game on the weekend after this game is not very wise. Asking for a €810 spend in the space of three days on tournament play is a bit much. Maybe the monkey game and the EOM could take place at two weeki intervals? Just a thought.

5starpool

The monkey game is not a regular monthly thing, and this time at least is part of the bigger festival, but I agree in general that the close proximity it not that wise as shown the last time when only 40 turned up for the monkey game. I expect 60+ this time though.

Also, the stack for the 270 game was increased to 6k this month.

Solksjaer

Doea anyone know how the Fitz will breakdown the points for the Vegas trip .
Out of curiosity now nothing else.

MickL

as far as i kno theres 10 points for entering 1o ponits for the final table and 3rd 2nd 1st all 10 extra ponts

Marq

I spoke to Luke about the structure last night.
We might try to change it to a seven o'clock start for next month.