Mission Impossible?

Degsy

Right,i've been bb'ing for one year and weight training after a fashion for 9 months prior to that.I've put on a decent amount of muscle considering i was allways skinny and had to eat heavily for every ounce of flash.During my initial bulking period last year i put on quite an amount of flab and i'm doing low intensity cardio in an attempt to shed it.Its working but very slowly and i think it must be my diet thats to blame,i eat good foods but perhaps too much of them and too often and imight need to cut back a bit but i dont want to stop gaining muscle or indeed to lose any i've allready gained.Is it possible to shed flab AND gain muscle?Anybody got any suggestions?

g'em

Anacat ftw!! As tried and tested (succesfully ) by t-ha and Dragan. Have a read and see what you think. It's a very sound nutritional protocol and easy to facilitate in everyday life.

Degsy

Whew!There's quite a lot there to take on board.So the upshot is too eat big before and after workouts and cut back slightly on other days?

g'em

erm, pretty much yes. (but shhh... don't tell the boys you've synopsised all their hard work in one sentence )

daveirl

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t-ha

g'em wrote:

erm, pretty much yes. (but shhh... don't tell the boys you've synopsised all their hard work in one sentence )

Actually, after all my precise calculations, what degsy said is exactly how I'm currently applying it - just eat big & then small!

TerrorFirmer

g'em wrote:

erm, pretty much yes. (but shhh... don't tell the boys you've synopsised all their hard work in one sentence )

I spent about a half hour reading and re reading that thread and studying the progress being made...and then about 10 seconds synopsizing it as already mentioned above!

Dragan

You can really emphasis the CAT section and get away with it. I have been eating very much to lose adipose, and yet everyone will tell you that i have made some very good gains!!!!

The best advice i can give is

1) Worship the pre bed anabolic shake on workout days....this has been a major contributing factor to me adding lean muscle mass.
2) When you eat big still eat clean
3) When you eat small, be honest. you should feel hungry the odd time on a low food day.

That is all

Degsy

Am i eating t oomany carbs though?For example,mid-morning i have a large plate of porridge with my scrambled eggs and midday meal is a mass of potatoes and rice/noodles with meat.I eat fruit later on but no carbs as such after 7..is it still too much?

Dragan

Depends on the day thats in it, on a workout day where you might do your workout at 5 or six, not at all, get's them carbs in you man, you need the fuel. On a non workout day then yes, you won't use them for anything so don't need a hugh ammount of starchy carbs.

On my non workout days i only eat veg...no spuds, rice, pasta etc....and only small ammounts of veg as well.

t-ha

Degsy wrote:

Am i eating t oomany carbs though?For example,mid-morning i have a large plate of porridge with my scrambled eggs and midday meal is a mass of potatoes and rice/noodles with meat.I eat fruit later on but no carbs as such after 7..is it still too much?

If you don't eat any carbs then you probably won't have much energy, but if you eat too much then you probably won't be energetic either. There is a sweetpoint somewhere in the middle there that you want to hit. It's best judged for yourself as it depends on so many things (the carb source, the time of day, your response to carbs, if you've worked out recently etc.).

Also depends on goals too I suppose.

Degsy

Thing is i never work out before 8pm during the week,non training days i pretty much do nothing!

t-ha

Degsy wrote:

Thing is i never work out before 8pm during the week,non training days i pretty much do nothing!

Ahh, but you see the ANACAT protocol was developed after carefully studying the bodies protein synthesis rates as a parameter of caloric intake in real-time*. We have found that after a ball busting workout you have pretty much earned the right to eat alot until the same time the next day, even if you work out in the evening! Get those calories in!


*complete lie , though it has been tried in the field and found to work if that means anything?