Kick *clunk* *click*

Unpossible

ok the above is the noise my hip makes when I kick.
The type kicks we use are basically the same as TKD kicks and its my right hip causing the problem. It usually happens when I try a roundhouse, front kick, spinning back kick, hook-kick (when Im aiming high mostly). It happens with other kicks too but not too often. I cant kick too high with the leg either it just won't move the right way to gain height, when it clicks/clunks it can be pretty loud and uncomfortable (usually not painfull). I tryed changing my front kick and it helped, now it only clicks half the time when I try using my new technique. Its also clicking when I walk to school/city centre/where ever, and it gets a bit painfull.

So my question (to anyone who does TKD style kicks or kickboxing), is this usual? Im about 2 1/2 years into the MA and I thought things would be getting better by now (not slightly worse), will it ease up as I get better? Is it a technique problem? or a flexability problem? or both?


PS years ago when it clicked as I was doing kickboxing I asked my physio about it and he just said "some people are not made to kick high"

Roper

Hey there, ditto up to a couple of years back. Mine went away when I started squatting more.

I actually recognise the sound you've spelled out!:D

Dragan

Sounds to me like it could be a hip flexor issue???? I suggest a trip to a physio, simply because i never mess around when it come to hips or back....also look at some excercises to strenghten the area as well.

Miles Long

Man I've been there. My right hip cracked a big deep coffin lid clunk for the first two years of my training. It was really bad on the outside to inside cresent kick, TBH I don't remember if there was a point at which it stopped clicking everytime but it did. I kick high all the time. My guess is it's like anything, you're constantly pushing your body to do things and move in ways it's never done before. It's gonna give you trouble for a while until your body goes "Oh, Okay I get it now!"

In my case, which may very well not be yours, I did lots of moving and streaching of the hip joint itself every time I started training. Big deep circles that consist of your entire range of movement for that joint. That and a table spoon on Cod Liver Oil once a day!

Unpossible wrote:

PS years ago when it clicked as I was doing kickboxing I asked my physio about it and he just said "some people are not made to kick high"

Go find him and when he goes to shake you hand kick him in the side of the head!:D

loz

I used to get the same when i had a bad stretching program. ie stretching wrongly - and in the wrong order - ( warmup - statics - training - statics blah blah ) used to take me 30 mins to get to a good kicking flex / height


Iv'e now pretty much dropped all static stretching, and just now do some dynamic ( multi directional leg swings ) after a short warm up - prior to training.

no clicks/ creaks / moans - and im at my max flex and kick height in 2 minutes.

I echo Rory's, codliveroil comment ! - its ftw

Roper

Lads, cod Liver Oil is for your granny to force feed you when you're 5, Glucosamine does the same job, better, and isn't minging!

loz

Roper wrote:

Lads, cod Liver Oil is for your granny to force feed you when you're 5, Glucosamine does the same job, better, and isn't minging!

COL is 5 times cheaper !

Miles Long

Cod liver oil builds character!

monkey tennis

My hips (and knees) click away like nobody's business, and have done for several years without detrimental effect (so far!). When you move your hips in outside of their regular range of motion, there are all sorts of ligaments and muscles that move over each other and over the bone, and they can get kind of caught and make those noises. It could be a more serious issue, such as cartilage damage, but AFAIK you'd know that from the pain.

From what I've seen and heard, the general attitude toward clicks and pops are: if it doesn't hurt, it's probably not worth dying of worry about - but get your physio's opinion.

Dermot Nolan

Does anyone know of a good physio (North Dublin Area) who they've found to be proficient in dealing with hip injuries?

I've had problems similar to those described here but i also have very limited range of motion/ flexibility in this area due to a hip injury caused by overstretching a few years ago. Any physio i've been to (2 physios and 1 sports injury specialist) didn't seem to know what could be wrong and couldn't give me any exercises to improve my hip flexibility/ROM They actually seemed uncomfortable dealing with this kind of injury.

Any advice is appreciated:)

Unpossible

warmup - statics - training - statics blah blah ) used to take me 30 mins to get to a good kicking flex / height

thats exactly how we do it, but I find the days that Im sparring & moving my hips are more flexible than the days I just stand and kick (after stretching)

Its nice to know that Im not alone in this Does anyone have links on exercises & stretches ?

Clive

Cod liver oil rawks (in tablet form so you don't have to taste it).

BenZy

hey,

i've tried the glucosamine and didn't notice much improvement - might give the cod liver a go. I'm clicking stuff just typing this. Hopefully its the gas in the synovial joints theory or in a few years i'll be fused:)

Roper

Dermot Nolan wrote:

Does anyone know of a good physio (North Dublin Area) who they've found to be proficient in dealing with hip injuries?

I've had problems similar to those described here but i also have very limited range of motion/ flexibility in this area due to a hip injury caused by overstretching a few years ago. Any physio i've been to (2 physios and 1 sports injury specialist) didn't seem to know what could be wrong and couldn't give me any exercises to improve my hip flexibility/ROM They actually seemed uncomfortable dealing with this kind of injury.

Any advice is appreciated:)

Dermot,
I use an osteopath/sports injury specialist in Swords who sorted me right out where hysios failed!!!

His card is around the house somewhere, when I put my hand on it I'll pm you the number. Sound bloke too and not mega expensive.

Valmont

Miles Long wrote:

Cod liver oil builds character!

Thats exactly what my grandparents told me.

I recognised that noise. When I used to do Karate and Hapkido, 2 years in my hips got very sore and crappy to be honest. I found it was the hook kicks, cresenent and axe kicks that strained them unnecessarily.

When I started BJJ, they seemed to heal and now I'm more flexible and they haven't hurt since. I've been doing thai for a while now and everything is ok.

Roper

Crescent kicks are what used to really do it to me. Thank the bejaysus I don't do them anymore!

Roper

Crescent kicks are what used to really do it to me. Thank the bejaysus I don't do them anymore!

edges

Welcome to the club! My training partner and have actuallt tried to put a beat together using our various clunks, clicks and pops. Try it when your hanging aroudn waiting for a seminar to start!

More seriously, look at Joint Mobility excersises. I got a very good book from www.dragon-door.com called super joints, but you will get similar info from Yoga / Dao Yin / Chi Gung people.

Does anyone know of a good physio (North Dublin Area) who they've found to be proficient in dealing with hip injuries?

Mark Sexton is on Manor St, he's an old Martial Arts type so knows where we're coming from. My training partner has been going to him for the last couple of years with a serious hip injury. Good Luck