Exacting maximum value?

phantom_lord

Three not very interesting hands from the other night, they're just bothering me a little in that I don't think I made as much as I could/should have. So I'm just posting them here for comments.

Villain is a fairly weak player, limps alot, thinks tp is a monster. ignores kickers alot of the time.


Live ½


Villain ~150
Me ~200ish


I’m on the sb, villain in the co.


Loads of limpers, I call blind in the sb for extra excitement for my yoyo and check dark.

Pot ~14

Flop

K23 two hearts.

Checked around to co, who raises 10.

A quick peek at the cards, I’ve k3. I’m close to reraising, but instead just call. Comments?

Everyone else folds.

Pot ~24

Turn k

I check. Villain raises 20. I call.

River 6s.

I bet 35. Comments?

phantom_lord

Villain 350+
Me 170.


I’m on the button with k2s. Villain is in mp. Chinese gamber type who's just sat down with chips from the bj/roulette table.


About 3/4 limpers. I limp. I very very very rarely play suited kings, suited aces a bit, kings no. But I’m on the button, it’s not going to be raised by the blinds, so I decide to call.

Pot ~12

As 2 3s

Checked around, villain raises 10.
I call. Everyone else folds.

6s

Villain bets 35. I call. Comments?

River 3.

Villain bets 35. I just call. Comments?

phantom_lord

Bet on the River?

New villain. 150ish Not long at the table, so no real reads. Seems weak.
I’ve 300ish

3 limpers.
I limp with jh10h in mp.

Villain raises to 12 in the bb/sb. One caller.

I call. Probably a call I wouldn’t make a habit of, but villain seems a weak player so I think there’s a chance I can take it off him further down the line. I'm floating more than anything else here, I think.

Flop

A6x

Villain bets out 10. Original caller folds.

Villain definitely hasn’t got an ace, I call with the intention of taking it down on the turn. Anyone just reraise here?

Turn 10.

Better than I what I had hopped for, 90% sure I’ve the best hand.

Villain checks. I bet 25. He calls.

River ace.

He checks, I check behind.

cardshark202

In the first 2 hands you cant get anymore value unless you bet your hand at some stage.
Hand 1: Don't check dark. Lead the flop. As played raise the flop and lead the turn.
Hand 2: Lead the flop sometimes/most of the time. As played, lead the turn for a PSB. And then bet whatever you think he calls on the river.
Hand 3: Don't see what you're ahead of check is fine on the river, but a fold on the flop is best.

phantom_lord

hand 3. Villain tabled k7o and a very confused look. :rolleyes:

bubbleking

hand 3

phantom_lord wrote:

Villain definitely hasn’t got an ace,
.

he just sat down so i take it you dont have any major reads. he raised pf and bet the flop how an you be sure he didnt have an ace?

if he leads the river for the pot do you fold?

Sangre

You seem to be limping a lot, i prefer a an open raise or fold approach. Unless the table are complete donks who couldn't read a draw/set a mile off, or if im targetting one uber-aggro guy in particular

phantom_lord

Sangre wrote:

You seem to be limping a lot, i prefer a an open raise or fold approach. Unless the table are complete donks who couldn't read a draw/set a mile off, or if im targetting one uber-aggro guy in particular

I did see any reason to raise any of these hands pf.

he just sat down so i take it you dont have any major reads. he raised pf and bet the flop how an you be sure he didnt have an ace?

if he leads the river for the pot do you fold?

I'm pretty sure because he made such a weak bet, just looking at him, he wasn't trapping.

Hand 3 especially is an odd hand for me, I'd probably fold j10 to that raise, and almost certainly fold on the flop. On the face of it, I look like a fish that called a bet pf and on the flop I shouldn't have and got lucky on the turn.

But my intention wasn't to hit my j or ten, it was to get him to fold to a bet, when I had a strong instinct he was weak. When I got a pair of tens on the turn, I was fairly certain I'd the best hand so I then wanted to make a bet he'd call.

He was never going to lead the river with a psb, if he had, I'd be very confused. I don't think I can call tho.

TacT

as reggie said, best way to get anymore value would have been to lead the first two, last one is fine.

phantom_lord

Should I reraise in the first one? I was calling the turn with the intention of reraising the river but I chickened out when the board paired.

ianmc38

Hand 1: After you've glanced at your cards say your still on the blind and keep betting/raising saying that you're here to gamble and that you dont think he has much anyway. I think this is the optimal line for the hand.

Hand 2: I'll raise the turn alot. Calling on the river looks fine.

Hand 3: Fold the flop. I certainly dont see this as a spot to extract value

LuckyLloyd

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