Another Speeding Thread...Zzzz

FX Meister

Just a quick query really. Sister was tailed by an unmarked Volvo XC90 on the M1 yesterday, from at least the toll bridge, for about 10 miles until he flashed the lights and pulled her over. He went off on a mad rant at her for driving at 139KPH and staying in the overtaking lane. He then just stormed off, got into his SUV and drove off. He didn't mention anything about a ticket to her. Will it arrive by post? Do they have those cameras mounted in the vehicle like you see in the UK cops shows?
I can't see why he would be so angry and follow her for so long without issuing a ticket. The spa deserves it in my opinion. Any ideas as to what will happen?

JHMEG

FX Meister wrote:

Just a quick query really. Sister was tailed by an unmarked Volvo XC90 on the M1 yesterday, from at least the toll bridge, for about 10 miles until he flashed the lights and pulled her over. He went off on a mad rant at her for driving at 139KPH and staying in the overtaking lane. He then just stormed off, got into his SUV and drove off. He didn't mention anything about a ticket to her. Will it arrive by post? Do they have those cameras mounted in the vehicle like you see in the UK cops shows?
I can't see why he would be so angry and follow her for so long without issuing a ticket. The spa deserves it in my opinion. Any ideas as to what will happen?

You sure it was a cop? Doesn't sound like it.

The brother had a similar episode on the M1 a while back (a non-cop in a Rover something or other)

Anan1

I can't see her hearing any more about it. Hope she's learnt her lesson.

unkel

I doubt she'll hear anymore of it. Why was she driving in the overtaking lane, especially when she knew someone behind her might want to overtake her?

commited

No problem with someone doing 140kph on the M1, but staying in the outside lane - she deserves a ticket for that!

fletch

unkel wrote:

I doubt she'll hear anymore of it. Why was she driving in the overtaking lane, especially when she knew someone behind her might want to overtake her?

Yeh why was she?!

junkyard

She must have been mad to pull in for an unmarked car in this day and age, I'd have kept going untill a marked car came on the scene or else have driven to the nearest Garda station. There are some serious nutters out there and they're not all home grown nowadays either.;)

Seth Brundle

I was going to say exactly what junkyard said - tell your sister to stop for nobody!
However, there are unmarked cars with cameras. One (maybe two) even has a reg plate reader!

Car Mad

iv heard of people in waterford been pulled over by a person in a car giving out stink and then driving off.dressed in yellow jackets impersonating gardai.iv even heard storys of a fella going around a skool given out to people in parked cars coz there children havnt seat belts on when takin off.(some nutters out there or what?)impersonating guards what next?

drdre

nah, she wont hear anything back so tell her not to worry

FX Meister

The Volvo was unmarked but it had the blue lights in the grill and stuff and the Garda was in uniform so it wasn't a nutter. I think she's learned her lesson. As for driving in the overtaking lane, I guess she's just like all the spas who hog the "fast" lane. I gave her stick for that more than anything myself.

unkel

FX Meister wrote:

As for driving in the overtaking lane, I guess she's just like all the spas who hog the "fast" lane. I gave her stick for that more than anything myself.

Good stuff. With both her brother and that Garda giving out, maybe she'll change her ways

Drax

FX Meister wrote:

As for driving in the overtaking lane, I guess she's just like all the spas who hog the "fast" lane. I gave her stick for that more than anything myself.

Good man. We need more people like you.

Sandwich

junkyard wrote:

She must have been mad to pull in for an unmarked car in this day and age, I'd have kept going untill a marked car came on the scene or else have driven to the nearest Garda station. There are some serious nutters out there and they're not all home grown nowadays either.;)

Anyone know the legal situation on this one? What are your obligations to pull in - a clearly marked Garda car, any car flashing a blue light, any car at all? Unless the car has Garda written on it can you ignore it?

jimmycrackcorm

Sandwich wrote:

Anyone know the legal situation on this one? What are your obligations to pull in - a clearly marked Garda car, any car flashing a blue light, any car at all? Unless the car has Garda written on it can you ignore it?

Once you see they've brought in the helicopter to follow you too, I think it would be wise to pull over.

Turner

Car Mad wrote:

iv heard of people in waterford been pulled over by a person in a car giving out stink and then driving off.dressed in yellow jackets impersonating gardai.iv even heard storys of a fella going around a skool given out to people in parked cars coz there children havnt seat belts on when takin off.(some nutters out there or what?)impersonating guards what next?

There will be loads of these people soon..

They will be called the Garda Reserve.

el tel

140km/h is my cruising speed on the M1 and coincidently the speed below which my exhaust resonates. In approximately 300 return trips up and down the M1 I've seen Garda about 10 times. In fact, I think I've seen more tractors and combine harvesters on the M1 than the cops. And long may it continue; where else in Ireland can you do 200km/h in safety?:cool:

lanno

lads the Garda dont have any xc90, just checked with a mate in the trade

Anan1

lanno wrote:

lads the Garda dont have any xc90, just checked with a mate in the trade

How would a "mate in the trade" be able to state categorically that the Gardaí don't have a particular car?

lanno

very easy as they have a contract with a certain gov dept,

Guy:Incognito

lanno wrote:

very easy as they have a contract with a certain gov dept,

Well seeing as a person was pulled over by a xc90 with blue lighgts in the grille and a uniformed gard driving, I'd say your mate is wrong.

Was there not a fair bit of mention of a garda xc90 in the thread about garda cars a while back?

Anan1

I'm not sure that I'd go for this. For the new, unmarked corollas etc sure, but what about the various elderly 7 series BMWs and so on that are used by certain sections? These cars are clearly bought second-hand, and you genuinely would never know to look at them that they are Garda vehicles.

sk8board

Anan1 wrote:

How would a "mate in the trade" be able to state categorically that the Gardaí don't have a particular car?

Volvo or no Volvo, unless you got the blue flashing lights you should pull over for nobody ... period. Thats the only rule your sister broke! (That and driving in the overtaking lane. 10 miles is a lot of cars to be 'overtaking')

p.s they use the blue Subaru Forester on the M1; have seen it a few times in the past few weeks goin to/from work, and even on the weekend.

incidently, I've seen some Saab 9-3's about too. but in their whites

Anan1

sk8board wrote:

Volvo or no Volvo, unless you got the blue flashing lights you should pull over for nobody ... period. Thats the only rule your sister broke! (That and driving in the overtaking lane. 10 miles is a lot of cars to be 'overtaking')

She did get the blue flashing lights?

sk8board

el tel wrote:

140km/h is my cruising speed on the M1 and coincidently the speed below which my exhaust resonates. And long may it continue; where else in Ireland can you do 200km/h in safety?:cool:

you are a fool. "90 mph is my cruising speed". All going well you'll only kill yourself, and not anyone else.
the aul 'resonating exhaust' at 135k can be a real bitch

I live out the M1, and see some real crazy fools almost every journey, but wearing it as a badge of honour really takes the goddamn biscuit.

Anan1

sk8board wrote:

you are a fool. "90 mph is my cruising speed". All going well you'll only kill yourself, and not anyone else.

I cruise at up to 200km/h, conditions permitting. I must be dead already.:)

sk8board

Anan1 wrote:

I cruise at up to 200km/h, conditions permitting. I must be dead already.:)

go you. I guess that as a 2nd car dealer its someone else car your driving the crap out of.

Whats your garage name? Lets start a new thread to avoid it like the plague, except of course the guys that like their new cars to have done 200k

commited

sk8board - 20kph is only 16% over the speed limit. Thats less of a percentage then doing 60kph in a 50kph zone, which is far more common, and far more socially acceptable. It's worse in my opinon as, generally, 50kph zone are zones where pedestrians frequent.

How often do you see kids paying a game of footy on the M1?

If you also take into account that most speedos over-read by 5-10% it really isnt the childkilling scenario you make it out to be.

I hope people like you dont fill the garda reserves. We need people with some cop on.

Speeding in residential areas = scum.
Reasonable speeding on empty motorways where people actually obey the overtaking lane rule = fine

Sandwich

commited wrote:

Speeding in residential areas = scum.
Reasonable speeding on empty motorways where people actually obey the overtaking lane rule = fine

Trying to justify speeding = scum
Obeying the law = fine

Anan1

sk8board wrote:

go you. I guess that as a 2nd car dealer its someone else car your driving the crap out of.

Whats your garage name? Lets start a new thread to avoid it like the plague, except of course the guys that like their new cars to have done 200k

What on earth gave you the idea that I'm a car dealer? And why would anyone have a problem with buying a powerful car that had been driven at 200km/h?

unkel

sk8board wrote:

you are a fool. "90 mph is my cruising speed". All going well you'll only kill yourself, and not anyone else

Motorways are very safe. Well they are in other European countries where people drive safely at 200km/h or more. I suppose motorways are not safe in Ireland where the typical driver is an ignorant eejit

Calibos

Speed Kills lads!! Didn't you know that. You are perfectly save doing 69mph on the M1 but once you hit 75mph the car automatically disintegrates and spins across the barrier into the oncoming lane.

:rolleyes:

Speed doesn't kill. Inappropriate Speed kills. ie even 120mph on a dry deserted motorway late at night with no traffic is magnitudes safer than 25mph in a 30mph limit past a school in traffic in the rain.

sk8board

All valid points lads; my main concern was the 140-200kph that the 2 boys claim to do. As I say, I live out the M1, I certainly do the full 120kph when I get half a chance, but you tend to find that your completely in the way! (a slowpoke?!) with all the guys (mainly in nordie reg's) doing 100+

roll on cross-border points.

Saw a guy spin-off in a '00 CLK a few months back, and I was only going as far as the Airport! got up past 90-110 as soon as we past the Port tunnel, and then to everyones amazement was only going as far as the airport, and lost it on the lefthander off the M1 into the airport! (we only laughed AFTER he came to a safe stop into the barrier)

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

Chief--- wrote:

There will be loads of these people soon..

They will be called the Garda Reserve.

OUCH, I'm sure that hurt somebody...somewhere.

drdre

lanno wrote:

very easy as they have a contract with a certain gov dept,

they might have a xc90, cause last year i got pulled over by a merc e class in donnybrook and it was a undercover guard.

sk8board

drdre wrote:

they might have a xc90, cause last year i got pulled over by a merc e class in donnybrook and it was a undercover guard.

or maybe it was just a guard going home for his lunch, driving the fruits of all that over-time. You'd never know

Anan1

I'll ask you again, sk8board:

What makes you think I'm a used car dealer?

Why would anyone have a problem buying a powerful car that had been driven at 200km/h?

I'm interested to know whether you can actually back up your assertions, as opposed to simply blowing hot air.

commited

Sandwich wrote:

Trying to justify speeding = scum
Obeying the law = fine

:rolleyes:
I'm scum because I do an indicated 140kph on a motorway?
:rolleyes:

My stopping distance is far shorter than someone driving an old Micra at 120kph. But I'm sure that's ok.

:rolleyes:

Stark

You'll probably end up with a Micra in your ass when you do stop

bbability

The cops got their hands on a varity of Volvo's in June or July this year. On the ticket front, she should have been issued a ticket on the spot. I'd say she's in the clear.

thebman

Stark wrote:

You'll probably end up with a Micra in your ass when you do stop

LOL.

Seriously going a little over the speed limit on a motorway is hardly the biggest crime committed in this country.

Doing over 100KPH on a crap country road is a bigger issue.

Also doing about 50KPH on a good road with a 80KPH limit is dangerous as the people obeying the speed limit could come over a blind crest and run into the back of you with both people obeying the speed limit.

Well maybe not 50KPH but there are enough people out there who are afraid of doing the speed limit on even decent roads that are holding up the place for everyone else and potentially causing accidents in the blind crest or corner situation I outlined.

To be completely safe, everybody should drive at a speed where if a car in front magically stops instantly, they can stop too. I recommend the old Steam powered car speed limit in Britain of 2MPH

Speed kills but driving like an idiot in general (which you can do within the speed limit on a country road in Ireland) and complete disregard for every other driver on the road is a bigger issue in Ireland (mainly people that don't f***king indicate).

afatbollix

i dissagree with teh term speed kills... ive been in a few accidents (motorsport related NOT on the public road) and the worse was at 70mph into a tree and i was able to walk out of the car within 5 mins..
i stick to my 78-80mph on most motorways.. i drive alot.. on sunday i left my house at 5am to donegal drove around there all day and then went back to dublin.. (15 hours driveing) the condistions were bad raining all the way back, so most of the cars were sticking to 54mph most of the way.. one twat over taking.. and yes he was a young lad in a civic... with a light out at the front and a light out at the back... you could barly see him... i would concider him a danger on the road.. but once we got onto the motorway. we were fine 120kph all the way into dublin..

the real problum on the road is drunk drivers... i think they are the worst.. alot worse than speeders.. but thats my opionan..

want2play

Well lanno, the guard that pulled me over in an XC90 was wearing a damm good fancy dress costume then, comes with a volvo?

drdre

Anan1 wrote:

What on earth gave you the idea that I'm a car dealer? And why would anyone have a problem with buying a powerful car that had been driven at 200km/h?

because it might fall apart.:D

Anan1

drdre wrote:

because it might fall apart.:D

Yours might.;)

stovelid

And of course if this moron loses control of the car at that speed, it will quietly spin to the side of the road rather than through the fence and into oncoming traffic.

I also don't believe the other waffle. I'm willing to bet that most people who blatantly break motorway speed limits hardly drive meekly around areas with lower speed limits.

commited wrote:

sk8board - 20kph is only 16% over the speed limit. Thats less of a percentage then doing 60kph in a 50kph zone, which is far more common, and far more socially acceptable. It's worse in my opinon as, generally, 50kph zone are zones where pedestrians frequent.

How often do you see kids paying a game of footy on the M1?

If you also take into account that most speedos over-read by 5-10% it really isnt the childkilling scenario you make it out to be.

I hope people like you dont fill the garda reserves. We need people with some cop on.

Speeding in residential areas = scum.
Reasonable speeding on empty motorways where people actually obey the overtaking lane rule = fine

Stark

stovelid wrote:

I also don't believe the other waffle. I'm willing to bet that most people who blatantly break motorway speed limits hardly drive meekly around areas with lower speed limits.

Sure, and hash is a gateway drug.

Anan1

stovelid wrote:

I also don't believe the other waffle. I'm willing to bet that most people who blatantly break motorway speed limits hardly drive meekly around areas with lower speed limits.

The speed at which I drive is dictated by the space which I can see to be clear. 200km/h on an empty motorway may conform to this criterion, whereas 30km/h past a primary school may not.

stovelid

ah jaysus now hold on

Stark wrote:

Sure, and hash is a gateway drug.

stovelid

If you are doing 200KM, you definitely have much more chance of coming off the road. How are you so sure in that situation, you wouldnt go through the barrier and somebody won't be on the other side?

In this case, the main space that you "can see to be clear" is clearly between your ears dude.

Anan1 wrote:

The speed at which I drive is dictated by the space which I can see to be clear. 200km/h on an empty motorway may conform to this criterion, whereas 30km/h past a primary school may not.

Anan1

stovelid wrote:

If you are doing 200KM, you definitely have much more chance of coming off the road. How are you so sure in that situation, you wouldnt go through the barrier and somebody won't be on the other side?

In this case, the main space that you "can see to be clear" is clearly between your ears dude.

Do you understand the concept of driving at a speed which allows one to stop within the space which one can see to be clear? Or are personal insults the closest you can get to a rational discussion?