I have made a colossal f***up, and need a little help.

Freaked Out

Okay, it appears that I (a lowly junior freshman, so you know) have tapped into my limitless powers of absent-mindedness to lose my JF subject registration form (Science TR071) only one day after receiving it. So, after tearing my house apart and having a little cry, I now turn to all of you for help. Does anyone know what I should do next, who I should talk to, whether I should go out right now and turn my CV in to the nearest Shell garage?

Any input appreciated, I really feel I'm at the end of my tether right now.

Edwardius

Jesus, relax. just get onto student records, phone number's probably on the tcd website. It's hardly worth having a brain haemmorhage over now, is it?

Boston

Undergraduate admissions contact details
Phone 1 + 353 (0)1 896 3664
Phone 2 + 353 (0)1 896 1532
Fax: + 353 (0)1 872 2853

I'd contact them, like now.

btw, I'm not sure what the hell you talking about. Have you allready registered? Have you your fee payment receipt?

Freaked Out

It was the form given to me after choosing my subjects for JF. The main reason I'm so jittery is that the Science faculty's Guide to subject choice says, and I quote: "Please keep [the form] safely as you will not be allowed to register without it and these forms will not be re-issued by the faculty office". I omitted this in my first post to obtain an unbiased opinion of my standing. But you're right, I'll give them a ring now.

Oh, and I do have my fee payment receipt, FWIW.

xebec

Still go to the Faculty Office, they'll give you a copy, they just don't want everyone in JF science to come looking for a new one. Be nice to them and hopefully you'll get a good response

Newb

Pretend you never got in the first place. Don't give them an excuse to be angry with you.

Freaked Out

Heh, the offices just closed.

I'll go to the faculty offices tomorrow. I'll take any amount of flak, I don't mind that. I just got a bit of a shock. But I'm prone to these kind of events anyway. Thanks folks.

I'm sure these things happen, and they'll probably have some spares on standby. Just don't say your dog ate it.

Right_Side

Freaked Out wrote:

Does anyone know what I should do next, who I should talk to, whether I should go out right now and turn my CV in to the nearest Shell garage?

HAHA thats funny about going to Shell!!

You'll be grand, just chill out. As someone else said they just don't want 300 Science students going up getting new forms.

Crash

funnily enough, they'll probably still get 300 science students going up getting new forms :P

ApeXaviour

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funnily enough, they'll probably still get 300 science students going up getting new forms :P

Not that far from the truth.

As Dead_Ed says. OP I'd never put a fraction as much worry into something as trivial as a form, nomatter what they say. Admin just want to get their work done with. There is no way they could do anything to you bar be grumpy. Best off being nice to them anyway though, they can make your life easy. A smile tends to lubricate bureaucratic intercourse.

Welcome here by the way. Out of interest what subjects are you choosing? SS Natural Scientist I be

DiscoMouse

I'm the OP, this is my usual SN. Sorry about freaking out about what has now been revealed as nothing; I'm very poor at adapting to new situations. I predict at least one further breakdown before lectures start

In reply to you, ApeXaviour, I'm taking taking Maths, Chemistry and Physics, with intent to specialise in Physics. The head of the school of Maths did his best to turn us away and do Maths Methods instead though! I suppose they're tired of people switching out when it proves too much. I however, have no other option, Physics being my ambition. I was originally gunning for TP, but I've had some worrying reports sent my way- it looks to be the most stressful course available.

Look forward to seeing you all in that big place in town I now go to everyday!

ApeXaviour

DiscoMouse wrote:

In reply to you, ApeXaviour, I'm taking taking Maths, Chemistry and Physics, with intent to specialise in Physics. The head of the school of Maths did his best to turn us away and do Maths Methods instead though! I suppose they're tired of people switching out when it proves too much. I however, have no other option, Physics being my ambition.

So another MCP like meself. You'll find that you'll get to know the advanced material class fairly well, they do the same subjects as yourself for 1st and 2nd year.
Yeah you gotta do maths, it's actually pretty handy cos of a lack of labs unlike the other subjects.

Oh and watch out for 3rd year (if you're doing physics), I was one 9 out of a class of 19 that failed it first time I did it. You need to get your head down for those end of year exams, it's quite a bit of a jump from 2nd year. Less lectures but requires one hell of a lot more study. Doable though. Little there that is amazingly difficult, just requires the work. And if you do work you usually end up better than you would have in 1st and 2nd year.

On a lighter note though: join the Physoc! That'll be one of my mates at the stand. It'll be a good year for "refreshments".

DiscoMouse

ApeXaviour wrote:

On a lighter note though: join the Physoc! That'll be one of my mates at the stand. It'll be a good year for "refreshments".

I didn't bring enough money for all the socs on Monday. I'll be among your ranks by tomorrrow though!

I'm remaining wary of Maths for now. I know it's important for Physics (Of course of course), but I belong to that misguided class of people that found it easier to simply remeber maths concepts in school than understand them. I'll have to clean up my act this year on that front, I know I won't get far otherwise.

DiscoMouse

DiscoMouse wrote:

I didn't bring enough money for all the socs on Monday. I'll be among your ranks by tomorrrow though!

I'm remaining wary of Maths for now.

You just reminded me of something - bit random, but Mathsoc had a great slogan on their stand...

Mathsoc: Now with girls!

DiscoMouse

Funny, but well random, yeah

davori

omg yeah that Maths Head basically told us all the reasons not to take Big-boy maths, even my a1 friend was worried, :eek: So i just added Physics to Chem and Bio and took Baby Maths too Looking forward to Monday ashamed to admit, wanna see what its actually like ::D

Anybody for GenSoc?

The_Radiator

davori wrote:

omg yeah that Maths Head basically told us all the reasons not to take Big-boy maths, even my a1 friend was worried, :eek: So i just added Physics to Chem and Bio and took Baby Maths too Looking forward to Monday ashamed to admit, wanna see what its actually like ::D

Anybody for GenSoc?

you should drop phyics or biology and to Maths

Nietzschean

Emm the head of maths wouldn't be talking to a first year science class...

DiscoMouse

Well then I've no idea who he was.

... Maybe he wasn't from Maths at all! *Gasp*

John

Full maths in first year science is easy. I got a 2.1 without doing one of the papers and I only got a C at the leaving.

ApeXaviour

The_Radiator wrote:

you should drop phyics or biology and to Maths

Agreed. 1st year maths is very doable and you'll find it eases your load as it has no labs.

The_Radiator

Just to elaborate, I haven't heard that JF Maths course has changed much since myself Apex and John did the course so I presume it's of equal difficulty. I'm not the most academic of individuals but my top mark in JF was in maths. So that equates to me as anyone that isn't retarded who studies for a week or 2 before the exam is guaranteed a pass. And rpresuming you're a good little trinity student a 2.1 (Trinity equivalent of a isn't too difficult.

The maths course is actually quite well run and there's a lot of support material in the standard text books, wored examples etc. etc. and the exam papers are alittle bit repetitive so if you grasp the understanding it's just a matter of sticking the numbers in.

Physics Chemistry and Biology sounds like a good combination on paper, an opportunity to do all the core science subjects and decide what you like prefer. But they actually don't work well together (I'm not even certain that they don't clash in someway). Next year, and sorry for looking so far ahead for you, you will have to pick 3 subjects from Bio1, Bio2, Maths, Chem, Physics and Geology (and geog). You can't/shouldn't pick Bio and Physics together in SF.

It's not a great idea if you have any interest in keeping physics to continue doing MAths MEthods, actually, I'm not even sure you can do SF physics without doing maths.

So in summary, if you know you want to do something biological in the following years, drop phyics and take on maths. On the other hand, if physics or chemistry is your intended course, drop biology and take maths. Also, there is a course called Geology/Geography and people with interest in Zoology, Environmental Science, Botany, Geology, Geography could be encouraged to take this course (at the expense of physics).

Sorry for the rambling nature of this post.

ApeXaviour

The_Radiator wrote:

It's not a great idea if you have any interest in keeping physics to continue doing MAths MEthods, actually, I'm not even sure you can do SF physics without doing maths.

This is true. You need to do maths in JF and SF to do physics in SF and beyond.
Maths really helps for chemistry. Physics helps for chemistry too. So yeah basically what kev (I mean Radiator) said.

Pet

That's odd that they're discouraging people from taking full Maths. In both my attempts at first year, we were all advised NOT to do maths methods + 3, because of the long hours, and because full maths was "recommended for scientists". Wonder what prompted the seachange in opinion? High failure rates this year? Course change looming? ARAM at work again?

DiscoMouse

Yeah, they really had nothing good to say about full Maths at all. They even claimed that doing 3 subjects and M.Methods wouldn't put any extra workload on us, which partly conradicts what you guys are saying. Something bad must've happened last year =P

(BTW, got my form... Goddamn, but I am an awful retard. They had a pile of them on the desk!)

Pet

Hmm. I think I smell ARAM. Either that or 2005/06 JF science were a pack of lazy retards and all failed.

Btw: Maths methods is ridiculously easy if you did HL for the LC. But it doesn't look great on your transcript, and if you want to do physics, then do full maths - it's not actually that bad from what I've seen.

davori

Hey thanks for all the feedback guys. Just to let you know that i have always hated maths and have awaited the day that i could "drop it" in a sense for about 5 years, unfortunately that day still hasn't arrived :mad: so im pretty happy just taking the babyMaths. I want a field in Bio or Chem and those are all open to me, and Physics is just really a filler to replace that horrible two years of maths that i somehow managed to scrape a c1 Higher in. So thanks guys, but no thanks i wont take the BigBoy-Maths!!!

Nietzschean

its possible it is ARAM, as doing full maths does mean spreading more funding aroudn than they'd like, vs maths methods iirc isn't actually taught by the maths dept....