AK suited--let it rip?

connie147

Final table of €25,000 gtd mtt(on line).Came to the final table as bottom stack but have worked it up to CL with 6 remaining. Though I have been stealing, any time it got to showdown since ft began, Ive shown a good hand each time. Pushed from utg twice, no callers but showed KK and QQ.

Relevant facts.
Hero UTG 150k (CL)
Villian UTG+1--115k (2nd CL)
MP1--95k
MP2--90k
SB--85k
BB---43k (shortstack)

blinds are 5k--10k(2mins away from going 7k--15k)

prize structure---1st-€6,000.
2nd-€4,000
3rd-€2,800
4th-€2k

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5th-€1600---6th€1,250
So utg I get AK diamonds,I push and am called by utg+1 (has 99), he hits a 9 on the flop and I hit a King but im now crippled. My idea was to take on the shortstack bb on my own or just pick up the blinds.Thought only a premium hand could call my bet except for bb(lag).
This is the question, how stupid was that play. I could have sit back and waited but really, on a FT,I like to be the aggressor. Whats the correct line in this situation?

PS: Ive been thinking about it today and I think if the same situation occurs again, Id make the same play. Hense the thread to get some boardsters thoughts.

cardshark202

Make it 40k and call a push. You could almost just open push given the stack sizes.

30something

Tricky. AK off is a better re-raise then raise hand in this spot IMO. A flat call UTG to see what peeps are up to can scare the beejaysus out of the other players. Equally, it could make them think you are weak so they pop in a stealing raise, the AI might scare em off.

Equally they might be scared of the call and you'll end up v blinds in position

Lots of ways to play this. As CL, the shortstacks will read your AI for a weak pair and feel its time for a race with their two over cards which is nice

All in all, lots of right plays, BL with the result here

Hitman Actual

Down to six, I don't think it matters how you play this; the money is going in. The only way it's not is if you just call or make a small raise, and then have to fold to serious action after you. But even then, you're probably still going to feel priced in.

I think the 99 call is poor, tbh. I'd expect to be in bad shape with 99 most of the time here.

Ste05

Makes no odds how this is played, if UTG+1 is willing to call all in with 99 (Crazy BTW!!!) then he raising any bet by you and you're never folding this.

Myself personally would have raised to 25k-30k and called any push but the result would have been the same...

padser

6 left, CL goes all in UTG and you are 2nd CL with 99. Its a no brainer to be honest.

That doesnt necessarily mean I agree with your push, but the call, given the circumstances, was sheer madness.

TBH I dont like your push though. With 5 ppl behind you I think punching it up to 30,000 will get everyone to fold unless ur dealing with a serious hand. It achieves pretty much the same effect as an all in, but if someone comes back over the top with 85,000 plus (which 4 people have) your able to get out of there still in very good shape. Most people at this stage wouldnt want to tangle with the CL (mr 99 excluded here of course) and you should be left with just the BB, which was your original intention.

Look at it this way, you are risking 115k (since thats the most that can be called) to win 15K. IF you are called by anybody except the BB you have to believe your going to be behind.

Def have to say I prefer a raise rather then a push, if someone has the balls to bluff you off it, so be it. Just make sure you make the same riase next time you have aces.

cardshark202

padser wrote:

6 left, CL goes all in UTG and you are 2nd CL with 99. Its a no brainer to be honest.

That doesnt necessarily mean I agree with your push, but the call, given the circumstances, was sheer madness.

TBH I dont like your push though. With 5 ppl behind you I think punching it up to 30,000 will get everyone to fold unless ur dealing with a serious hand. It achieves pretty much the same effect as an all in, but if someone comes back over the top with 85,000 plus (which 4 people have) your able to get out of there still in very good shape. Most people at this stage wouldnt want to tangle with the CL (mr 99 excluded here of course) and you should be left with just the BB, which was your original intention.

Look at it this way, you are risking 115k (since thats the most that can be called) to win 15K. IF you are called by anybody except the BB you have to believe your going to be behind.

Def have to say I prefer a raise rather then a push, if someone has the balls to bluff you off it, so be it. Just make sure you make the same riase next time you have aces.

No. You are never folding this hand under any circumstances. Once you raise, you must call a re-raise no matter what. People have to stop getting so paranoid with AK and all. Its a strong hand, just don't play it like a wimp and you won't have too many bad experiences.

connie147

cardshark202 wrote:

No. You are never folding this hand under any circumstances. Once you raise, you must call a re-raise no matter what. People have to stop getting so paranoid with AK and all. Its a strong hand, just don't play it like a wimp and you won't have too many bad experiences.

Thats my thoughts exactly as this stage of the tourney.
On the 99 call though, the only other times I open pushed on the final table ,I showed KK and QQ, so I was surprised at the call,but I'm still of the belief that the open push is the right option.

Ollieboy

I dont aggree about the open push, it stinks of a weak hand that doesn't want a call, even do you showed kk/QQ the last time, I would put you on JJ down to 77 here or a AK/AQ. Also, it depends on how much you have been stealing, which I'm guessing as been a lot, also how often do you raise or push from utg.

I dont agree that its a bad call by 99, he thinks he's ahead here and as made the correct call, even do he could be facing two overcards, also the blinds at this stage are nearly less than 10 bb, so any hand as to be played fully, as its a crapshoot.

Also, if you raise to 30/40k the money still would have gone in, unless he drop the 99's. I dont see how the money isn't going in here whatever happen, he might have flat called a raise, but I doubt it.

Its just a unlucky hand and it could happen on your first hand or last hand, its the risk of a small pp against AK, but I would alway rather have AK in this situation and be racing with a small pp.

DeVore

Get it in there. Ship the sherbert!

Take the blinds if thats all you get (unlikely, with the blinds going up so soon and so much you are going to get action I think, which is fine). If people read it as a small pair, so much the better as you may well get action from any half decent ace and hands like KQ etc.
Open Push is fine, making it 30-40k is fine too but you are calling any reraise so its really just a baiting-bet to see if you can induce someone to raise you.


DeV.