Live Game hand-whats my move?

jbravado

This hand is taken from a recent live cash game 1-2 and has been bugging me since.

The table is seven handed,pretty poor with maybe three decent players.The whole world calls par one maybe and I pot it from bb with a j of diamonds.Ep limping means absolutley nothing in this game so Im not really worried about a geniune hand.I get two callers,both playing around 4 to 500.First caller is utg and not very good.The second is on the button and useful.I cover.

Flop A 10 rag two diamonds.I check?utg bets 20 and the button called.Whats my action?

Should I just smooth call or just keep it basic and pot it?

Any comments appreciated.

cardshark202

Lead the flop. As it stands, pot the fúck out of it. I'd be slightly more likely to call if I was in position

spectre

jbravado wrote:

This hand is taken from a recent live cash game 1-2 and has been bugging me since.

The table is seven handed,pretty poor with maybe three decent players.The whole world calls par one maybe and I pot it from bb with a j of diamonds.Ep limping means absolutley nothing in this game so Im not really worried about a geniune hand.I get two callers,both playing around 4 to 500.First caller is utg and not very good.The second is on the button and useful.I cover.

Flop A 10 rag two diamonds.I check?utg bets 20 and the button called.Whats my action?

Should I just smooth call or just keep it basic and pot it?

Any comments appreciated.

I don't like raising preflop oop with a marginal hand like AJ.

I will lead this flop almost every time as well. You're most likely ahead with a great draw but you're out of position so I like to lead for pot or so. You will probably be called by weaker Aces which is great.

What are you hoping to achieve with check-raise? Weaker Aces will now probably fold so you lose value.

Gholimoli

spectre wrote:

I don't like raising preflop oop with a marginal hand like AJ.

I will lead this flop almost every time as well. You're most likely ahead with a great draw but you're out of position so I like to lead for pot or so. You will probably be called by weaker Aces which is great.

What are you hoping to achieve with check-raise? Weaker Aces will now probably fold so you lose value.

check riase here is horrible IMO.
lead the flop.

Ste05

Is this in the Jackpot??

I think I would have lead out here to build the pot and hopefully someone with a weaker flush draw will call, or if a set or better A calls then we have loads of outs to hopefully stack them, as they'll have trouble putting us on a flush draw, also alot of weaker A's will probably call here too.

But as played I think I'd check-raise here, again to try and build the pot, the stacks are deep enough that I still think the pot needs building in order to stack one of these guys if my flush completes, and I'd need to build the pot to make a river push callable.

It should also slightly disguise our lovely hand, as they might think we're raising to protect our hand from the possible flush, they'll obviously put us on a big A... hence the subsequent action will define their holdings perfectly for us and we can then play the hand perfectly from then on.

IMO, a flush draw will call, and a set or A10 will re-raise, then just play the rest of the hand accordingly.

I think a call will also set alarm bells ringing that we have a big A just as much as a CR will, and the problem then is the pot remains small and it is difficult for us to stack one of them unless they have a K high flush draw and it completes, it should look strange to the decent player that we are playing a huge pot without the nut flush and who knows what the weak player will be thinking??

NickyOD

Don't raise with from the blinds in a loose cash game with AJ. Lead the flop As played up to this point I would definitely raise to 70.

Rnger

when/how often does the jackpot have cash games?

phantom_lord

Rnger wrote:

when/how often does the jackpot have cash games?

Where is the jackpot?

valor

preflop really sucks. just tap

Seen as you raised, lead

As played make a standard raise, 70-90 is good

Rnger

phantom_lord wrote:

Where is the jackpot?

opposite the collosus. the collosus is in a lane half way down harcourt/camden street. the lane is beside what used to be the mayfair casino. its got a nice big neon 'POKER' sign at night

jbravado

I really dont think preflop is that bad.Yes I am oop bit but against the weaker player this is not AS important as it would normally be.I am under no illusions as to the strenght of ajs or otherwise and I am really trying to play a big pot against him as he has shown form for falling in love with any ace or indeed underpair.The button call is a worry and changes the way I play the hand.

Do most people just check in this spot?

The flop gives me a pretty powerful holding.I am nearly 100%sure that the lone ace is enough at this stage.
I really hate the way I played the flop too.I think my first thought was to smooth call however I eventually raised believing a weaker ace would probably pay me off.Utg dwelt and folded (basically means no ace) while the button showed an ace and folded.
I pretty much flipped my hand over with the cr.Horrific.In my defense it was the backend of a very long session and I was playing pretty bad!

I think smooth calling on the flop is a decent/best optionhere?and I definitley misplayed this hand to the best of my ability!

LuckyLloyd

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ianmc38

Leading flop is good. As played check call is a million times better than a check raise.

With Lloyd in the hand, check min-raise him, then bet 2 on turn and 2 on the river as that's the most you'll get out of that tight fúck

LuckyLloyd

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jbravado

Yeah that was the hand-was disgusted with the way I played it.Idiot moment.
You were only really calling with a real ace or a set -It was the other guy i was really trying to get involved with.
I indulged a little omaha when you went-enough said.

ianmc38

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Maybe I am tight; but it's the correct strategy when playing donkeys like you who will call me after I pot it for €220 on the river - eventhough you have correctly put me on a hand - a hand which has you beat



Will avoid you like the plague off a 7 - 3 - 3 flop though (irrespective of what I'm holding), you big calling station luckbox.

Lloyd that made a good day even better. Its amazing what the whole "sleep" thing does for my mood.

igoe

love the raise preflop, you'll hit the flop often enough to make it a value raise
The game would have to be playing such that A3 will call you preflop,

RoundTower

yeah this is why raising is good.