Silent Hill

podge79

saw this last nite and i was left at the end saying "what the f**k?!" i was lost - they dead or caught in some weird other dimension - basically "what the f**K?" answers please....

Karl Hungus

podge79 wrote:

saw this last nite and i was left at the end saying "what the f**k?!" i was lost - they dead or caught in some weird other dimension - basically "what the f**K?" answers please....

The film provides no answers, so it's basically left up to yourself. What did you think happened?

podge79

well i was kindda thinking that they were killed in the car crash and that but doesnt realy make sense

Necronomicon

Well my interpretation (as someone who never played the games, so could be totally wrong ) is that Silent Hill is a different plane or dimension and the mother and daughter are stuck in it at the end.

Zapp Brannigan

What I thought was: "Can't believe I wasted my money and time watching that awful awful film!"
Only good thing bout it was Pyramid Head.

constitutionus

Necromomicon wrote:

Well my interpretation (as someone who never played the games, so could be totally wrong ) is that Silent Hill is a different plane or dimension and the mother and daughter are stuck in it at the end.

ive played the first game and it left me thinking the whole game was a near death experience in the car just before you finally die (i know theres 3 endings but i always get the one with me in the crashed car and the horn blaring):D

but as for the film yup, it looks like the mother and girl are stuck in the silent hill dimension (in my opinion created by the girl herself) which is why sean beans character goes to the same gaff and theres nowt sign of em.

i'll admit to loving this film. its like a particularly nasty episode of the 80s twilight zone. ok it doesnt tell you everything but thats ok cause then you get to infer things like were all the burnt kids her class mates that bullied her? and the guy in the jax held there by barbed wire, was he abusing her? ya have to admit there are few video game films that raise the prospect of bullying , paedophillia and religious bigotry. when you factor that in the sheer violence of the final confrontation in the church is perfectly in line with what a 10 year old with a 30yr grudge would do.

basically figureing it out is half the fun, kinda like lost

Rhyme

Slurms wrote:

Only good thing bout it was Pyramid Head.

Yes yes yes... the film was freaky enough with

the cinder babies and 'Colin' the janitor but Pyramid was the main attraction and he didnt fail to impress. One of my favourite videogame bad guys of all time.

...and yes, i do believe that they died in the car crash but Alessa brought them to Silent Hill to aid in her revenge. Once complete, she let them go albeit dead*.

*only a theory

constitutionus

you know it does beg the question what exactly was pyramid head? my guess is the subconcious rage of the kid in the hospital bed made manifest to wreck bloody vengence you know the more i think about it the more i think of this film as a reality altering version of "carrie" albeit with a 10yr old

Rhyme

constitutionus wrote:

you know it does beg the question what exactly was pyramid head?

Every creature encountered in the games had a lot of meaning behind each one... for the most part in the film they merely ported enemies from the games. Pyramid Head (as you find out in Silent Hill 2) was a depiction of the towns executioner from centuries ago and embodied the protoganists need for self-punishment over the guilt of his wifes long-term sickness and subsequent euthanasia. In the film he was just an antogonist or as the townsfolk called him 'the fiend'.

kevthecelt

i really think this film is excellent, as a horror film fan, it ticked all the right boxes, the creatures are so disturbing, and some of the scenes are just horriffic, like the policewoman getting burned alive, you actually see her skin bubbling, unbelievable. i really think its very well done, with great attention to detail

SoupyNorman

I was amazed at how close it stayed to the game i.e completly.

I am presuming that the sequel is going to follow 'Silent Hill 2' where sean bean (christopher) will go searching for his misses in silent hill........any takers?

humanji

I don't think so. The games generally had new characters altogether and him going back would serve no purpose. To be honest I can't see how they could make a sequel if they tried. I'm sure if they did, they'd just do the same thing with a slightly different plot but more gore and violence. That seems the way of sequels now (which is why I'm really looking forward to The Punisher 2! )

constitutionus

i'd love a sequel too but i cant help thinking theres a highlander like probability of it being crap, simply rehashing what we've already seen . the only way would be to do like the games and introduce a compleatly new cast. i havent played any of the sequel games but "the room" seems ideal for a psychological horror , what with beyond the gore you have the fact of being trapped in your own house. theres something very disturbing about that. incidently anyone know how it did at the flicks? i seem to remember its lasting alot longer than the more touted films that came out the same time despite the critical lashing and its flying off the shelves of the DVD stores so hopefully it'd be financially viable

I thought it was hilarious.

Especially the guys wrapped in the potato sacks. When she was opening the toilet doors, half expected one of them to look up and say 'do you MIND, sheesh, can't a man have a crap in PRIVACY'...

constitutionus

was watching the extras on the DVD and was shocked to find out just how many of the effects were real :eek: i coulda sworn the armless monster that spits acid from its chest was purely CGI but it turns out to be an actor in a full latex job. apparently its the same bloke that plays red pyramid too. and all those weid deformed children? some asian girl did that and they just replicated the effect with CGI and messed with the face on her suit. even a few of the bug things were models.

Rhyme

constitutionus wrote:

was watching the extras on the DVD and was shocked to find out just how many of the effects were real :eek: i coulda sworn the armless monster that spits acid from its chest was purely CGI but it turns out to be an actor in a full latex job. apparently its the same bloke that plays red pyramid too. and all those weid deformed children? some asian girl did that and they just replicated the effect with CGI and messed with the face on her suit. even a few of the bug things were models.

Yup, the only really CGI'd things were the fog and the crazy things

(bed of barbed wire)

. Pyramid Head and the nurses were all dancers and specialised in abstract theatre, hence the skill in the 'twitching'.

BrenC

I really liked it, 7 / 10

senordingdong

humanji wrote:

I don't think so. The games generally had new characters altogether and him going back would serve no purpose. To be honest I can't see how they could make a sequel if they tried. I'm sure if they did, they'd just do the same thing with a slightly different plot but more gore and violence. That seems the way of sequels now (which is why I'm really looking forward to The Punisher 2! )

If they make a sequel it will probably be just like the sequel games.
Which is the same scenario, slightly altered, with all new characters.
Though I have to admit, the Sean Bean returning to find his family would be a great idea. Although, since Alyssa and her rage/revenge lust was responsible for the whole thing, and that was basically resolved at the end, with her getting her revenge on everybody, I don't see how they could revive the story.

Carcharodon

Its not really a great film in my opinion, a bit poor if you compare it to any decent horror flick
The thing that made it entertaining for me was how it stayed so true to the game, was very impressed by that, makes you appreciate it a bit more

senordingdong

One thing I've definatly noticed, that I tihnk gets over-looked is that the story seems alot like what you would get if you combined the Ring and the Grudge.
That in mind...it's basically a typical japanese horror story (granted, alot more twisted) but people I know seem to assume it's a western story and dismiss it as being a load of poorly written codswallop...whereas these people were blown away and fascinated by the Ring and the Grudge.
Anyone else experience this?

Zapp Brannigan

^ No. I hated the Grudge and the Ring aswell.

constitutionus

senordingdong wrote:

If they make a sequel it will probably be just like the sequel games.
Which is the same scenario, slightly altered, with all new characters.
Though I have to admit, the Sean Bean returning to find his family would be a great idea. Although, since Alyssa and her rage/revenge lust was responsible for the whole thing, and that was basically resolved at the end, with her getting her revenge on everybody, I don't see how they could revive the story.

hmm a possibility could be a "prequel" of sorts concentrating on residents who were only peripherally connected to the townsfolk. think someone staying in a hotel when alyssa first goes on the rampage and starts taking out the locals, you could have fun scenes where people attempting to escape her would run past the church not knowing its a sanctuary and we could see her creating the warped nurses and the spreading corruption of the whole town resulting in it being cut off from the real world. you'd probably have to end it with either the guy being the last person out of the town before then or huddling in the church with the rest of the townsfolk leaving us with the knowlege he'd be stuck there for the next 20yrs.
that or you could just have him bearly not make it out of town and be turned into the armless acid spitter we see the the first film. explaining why hes hanging around the border area.

well thats my idea

senordingdong

Interesting.

Brow

Being a big fan of the games i looked this up and was very disapointed with it. Some aspects were good but in general it wasnt a very good conversion. Dahlia should have been the main villain of this film, not a sympathy character. And pyramid head was desperately underused. These are two of my main gripes. Id rather not see a sequel made if thats what they come up with.

senordingdong

In fairness, none of the other monsters were used more that pyramid head.

abetarrush

seriously, why are they wreckin all the game films!!!!!! >:(

The director said stuff like,

they're not dead, no1 dies in Silent Hill, so that means Cybill and all the cultists are not really dead, therefore Alessa got no revenge

It shud have been like the game!

A man Harry, a late widower, loses his daughter in Silent Hill, goes lookin for her, weird stuff happens, meets Cybil, then the end....

God this is so annoyin

constitutionus

abetarrush wrote:

seriously, why are they wreckin all the game films!!!!!! >:(

The director said stuff like,

they're not dead, no1 dies in Silent Hill, so that means Cybill and all the cultists are not really dead, therefore Alessa got no revenge

It shud have been like the game!

A man Harry, a late widower, loses his daughter in Silent Hill, goes lookin for her, weird stuff happens, meets Cybil, then the end....

God this is so annoyin

apparently, and i am taking liberties with what he said, but the studio couldnt handle the fact a guy would act like that over his daughter. stating he's "too female" in his reactions. like the male "leads" in other horror films are made of such stern stuff :rolleyes: .

i agree, the lead shouldve been kept a man. sean bean couldve done a brilliant job at it not to mention actually putting (and dear god i cant believe im saying this !) a different male role model out there. god forbid a dad would want to go through hell to get his daugter.

Retr0gamer

I was hoping for something far nastier like in Silent Hill 1 one of the bad endings has you kill your own daughter. That was quite vicious.

monkey tennis

bravestarr082 wrote:

I was amazed at how close it stayed to the game i.e completly.

I don't know where you're getting 'completely' from, but I was certainly impressed with the faithful recreations of the locations. The first 15 minutes or so felt spookily familiar, even down to the camera angles in the alley! I really liked what they did with the school changeover.

Though I really wish they had kept the wheelchair down the alley with the wheel spookily squeaking away with no explanation as to why it's still spinning...

abetarrush

constitutionus wrote:

apparently, and i am taking liberties with what he said, but the studio couldnt handle the fact a guy would act like that over his daughter. stating he's "too female" in his reactions. like the male "leads" in other horror films are made of such stern stuff :rolleyes: .

i agree, the lead shouldve been kept a man. sean bean couldve done a brilliant job at it not to mention actually putting (and dear god i cant believe im saying this !) a different male role model out there. god forbid a dad would want to go through hell to get his daugter.

Exactly!

It also makes this film look like a Resident Evil rip-off

Cos the hero is a woman, and shes wearin a skirt and boots
[Like Jill from Resi]

I know women like Milla Jovovich and Uma Thurman have raised the bar for action heroes, but that doesnt mean they all hafta be women

Harry was no muscular athlete in the games, but he did wha needed to be done to save his daughter


And in this film, its just utter confusion. Alessa was the mother, CHERYL was the daughter, yet in the film Alessa and SHARON are the same kid, its stupid

It gets the same review i gave Resident Evil - It could have been great