Protection

kshiel

I was just thinking last night about the various different ways people view the protection issue when entering a haunted location or taking part in a paranormal experience etc. and what method they use. I think it might be nice to see what methods are out there and how people view asking for protection.

I believe (my opinion) we are all protected to some degree anyway but I do always ask for protection before a lot of things really, before meditation, before going into a haunted location and before I go to sleep at night and go off in the morning. Mine is more a form of prayer I suppose or asking for it.

Just woundering what other people do and how they feel about it?

6th

For me its just a case of getting myself into a frame of mind where I am calm and confident that I will use common sense. I know I am not going to get possessed so any possible dangers I might face are ones I create myself by reacting - like getting a fright and tripping down some stairs.

I find it really hard to put into words what i mean on this subject bbut I know i dont used "white light" or any objects such as crosses to protect myself.

Aisling&M

I use many different methods but the most important tool one has to protect oneself is INTENTION. Like 6th says it is the frame of mind/consciousness that you enter a situation that is your greatest force.

I like little rituals and often make up my own......here are a few if anyone would like to try them.

1. Archangel Michael Prayer.

I ask you Archaenger Michael to fill and surround me and all my loved ones,
with your blue flame of healing and protection,
so that no harm can come to any of us and
so that we can cause no harm to anyone else.

I ask this with complete trust, utter faith, love and respect.
I thank you for all the times you have protected us in the past,
Even when I have forgotten to ask.
I thank you now for your continued protection.

I ask you to fill and surround us to the front (while visualising), to the back,
To the left and to the right,
From above and below,
And in the centre, through every part of our sould and spirits.

Thank you Archangel Michael, Thank you God and Goddess (insert deity here).
And so it is.

Amen.

2. When about to do a group night I always cleanse my house. I use a Romanian monastery incense or sage and do a little symbol that has meaning for myself in every corner and at each window/opening of the room.
I say " Only love and light may enter or dwell in this home and this room".
"This room is sealed with light and love with the power of Archangel Michael". I make it clear verbally that any entities wishing to communicate must uphold the above principles.

3. When I'm out and about I visualise my energy field and manipulate it to protect me, project light, etc etc.



There are many ways to protect yourself but I like leaving it to the authority of a higher power than myself!


-Aisling

kshiel

I like to ask the Archangel Micheal also, always get a strong feeling of protection. I agree with the state of mind aswell but just saying a verse or prayer or what ever can just re-enforce that state of mind I feel.

With the Sage, forgive me if this sounds silly, can it be shop bought?

6th

Sage smudge sticks can be bought up in Dublin anyway. I have a few from the House of Astrology and can throw you a couple down in Ross if you like?

Nice to see everyone is echoing the state of mind thing. Ceremonies and rituals (imo) where thay are helpful to get people into the zone are in themselves unnessecery. Dont get me wrong I have no problem with them.

Its like a wedding: The ceremony is nice, the big dress, the church but none of it is needed to actually be married. People just like it because it focuses the intent and ties in with their beliefs

kshiel

6th wrote:

Sage smudge sticks can be bought up in Dublin anyway. I have a few from the House of Astrology and can throw you a couple down in Ross if you like?

Nice to see everyone is echoing the state of mind thing. Ceremonies and rituals (imo) where thay are helpful to get people into the zone are in themselves unnessecery. Dont get me wrong I have no problem with them.

Its like a wedding: The ceremony is nice, the big dress, the church but none of it is needed to actually be married. People just like it because it focuses the intent and ties in with their beliefs

The sticks would be great, thanks.

I see what you mean about the ceremony etc, and while it may not be needed to the two people who are uniting their relationship, it does require some form of ceremony to be seen in the eyes of the law, and I guess we bring that idea into our spiritual life also, with the prayers or beliefs sometimes.

6th

By law you just need to sign some paper with a witness.

For protection you just need to believe that you are safe and protected - of course this does not help you with regards to being mugged or attacked. In all cases practical precaustions should be taken, like bring a torch into a dark bulding ..... common sense and confidence/belief/faith are vital if anyone is going to be dealing with the paranormal on any level.

kshiel

Practical must always come first, I am pretty sure that everyone would agree that walking down a dark alley at night is not a good idea even if you have prayed first, that would be just looking for trouble, but having a little backup (in the sense of feeling, etc) cannot hurt either regardless of form in certain situations.

Should add here as long it does no harm to yourself or anyone else.

Aisling&M

The act of rituals themselves are in my opinion to give a 'logical' system to an otherwise detached purpose. Like tarot cards, crystal balls, palmistry. I believe that a message will be given just through thought and connection but the above items make it easier for our 'brains' to concentrate and analyse the information. It's kinda like giving a kid a crayon and paper to keep them distracted and behave while the adults have a nice meal....make sense?

I like my analogies!


Sage can be bought just about any decent new age/angel/spiritual shop!

I love the house of Astrology but the very best sage I have ever gotten is in a shop in the George's street arcade......it's the whole californian white sage rolled onto a stick as opposed to the other stick type sage......I feel the one from G. st. arcade is much more powerful and the aroma is wonderful!

Nevyn

Auld pine would be the shop in George's st arcade, I also like thier white sage.

Zillah

I have questions!

What do these protect against exactly?
Do you know/care how they function? For example, when you pray to Michael, do you believe that the Archangel himself intervenes?

Aisling&M

I personally believe that there are many different designations of angelic/guiding/healing/God power. My intention is for spiritual protection and I therefore ask for ArchAngel Michael protective energy which symbolises to me an inpenetrable force.

I believe intention is far more important than the words involved. The words just please my logical brain.

Zillah

So does the protection come from within you? If so, why use Michael at all? Is there no way to directly manifest it?

6th

Not so much from within us but from within us and around us as many people believe we are all connected and part of the same energy. (imo)

Aisling meet Zillah - he's a nice guy and will ask alot of questions )

Zillah

6th wrote:

Aisling meet Zillah - he's a nice guy and will ask alot of questions )

Hello You can say "shut up!" at any moment, but until that moment I'll mine you for information

Not so much from within us but from within us and around us as many people believe we are all connected and part of the same energy. (imo)

Are we using "energy" in the vague spiritual sense, the semi-scientific "bio-etheric" sense, or the hard science unit of force sense? Each of those would put an interesting slant on protection.

For example, one would use such protections when entering somewhere haunted, yes? This is to protect you from influences of malignant things. Howso? It will stop you from feeling bad, or it will make their "powers" ineffective against you? Is it a literal barrier across which they cannot pass?

How much of it might be a placebo-like effect; you feel you have an angel watching over you so you won't feel terror/loss of control/wild emotion? Otherwise those sensations might be attributed the the actions/influences of evil "things".

Aisling&M

I can only answer though from my own heart, soul and mind.....

I use different types of protection in different situations as mentioned above. But I am willing to accept any light/love/positive energy at any time.

If I am walking down the street I will ask for protection from a higher power (ie Michael) but I will also use my own bio-energetic energy to provide a shield of sorts at the same time.

When dealing with spirit and communication I always ask for a higher power to protect me.....why not? They have a greater understanding for such matters. Most importantly I will be letting my (bio-energetic) field to open and be 'down' so my own defences may not be strong enough. SO I use ArchAngel Michael energy to protect me, the other people there and the home/room we are working in.

Like if you are going out for a night and get a babysitter for the kids cos you wont be there to watch them!

Energy is in us, all around us and in everything we do.....I'll take all the good stuff I can get! (once of course I am not depleting anyone else's store) but I know there is more than a plentiful supply to go around!

More questions please!

Aisling&M

Also.......to answer the other part of your question....I imagine the energy from a higher power to be like a bouncer at the door.....only certain energies can be entertained and when necessary I can ask for extra assistance. I work on an invitation only basis. At least I try.

To describe the physiological representation of this energy is past my human experience of physics.......and I certainly don't pertain to understand the complexities of the infinite textbook of universal law of physics.....but I'm pretty sure it's impressive......

Aisling&M

You are gonna be sorry you asked now! LOL

Also.......just wanted to add that I use the above methods as they have proved to me in my life to work.....successfully so far........if they ever don't in the future I will find a new way.....until then I am confident in them.

IE.....you put a bag of popcorn in the microwave........it pops the corn......you eat the corn. you do not (or perhaps some do) know how it does this but it does so satisfactorily and so you continue to use it!

Hope that clarifies.........

kshiel

When I ask for say an angel to protect me, i envoke a feeling of comfort and safety within myself and surroundings, this does not come with just saying it, it comes with a belief in myself and that there are higher powers per say who do watch over us and welcome the invite to help guide us which everway we choose to let them, of course always maintaining our own free will. This is not to say we should totally depend on these guides, we also have a moral duty to ourselves to take responseability for our actions, and live the life we are suppose to live.

stormkeeper

I actually thought I was protected whenever I went on an investigation. However, it seems I wasn't, so I need to step back and focus on learning protection techniques, which is why I'm stepping back from any investigations till at least the time of the Edinburgh trip, and even though I may go on that (and Eastbury), I may still take a break after to get myself sorted, buecause if I go on the way I am, I'm liable to get myself into serious trouble.

6th

(Before Zillah asks) What sort of "serius trouble" do you think you could get into?

kshiel

was just thinking about you kennett, sorry to hear you still feel a bit out of sorts. Repeating what 6th said above, what trouble do you think you may be getting into?

On a lighter note, thought I ordered books on angels etc and turns out ordered two packs of angel cards, looking forward to seeing how these work.

Aisling&M

What sort of trouble do you find yourself in? If of course, you feel comfortable explaining......
j:)

stormkeeper

Essentially, I'm concerned that I could get the attention of bad spirits. I'm afraid I was a bit reckless overall, depite the care I've taken overall, which still wasn't enough...

Aisling&M

If you are dealing with the situation in your own way please excuse my interruption......but do you feel that you were latched onto or something?

If so, have you been to a healer/medium or maybe the instance has passed.

Anyway, hope all is well and if you would like any further info on protection I would be happy to help (If I can.....perhaps you know more than me)....

Aoide

Everybody please don't take offense with this question, becasue no offense is intended, I just don't understand.
Are you saying you are actually praying to an angel? Am I misunderstanding this?
Why not just pray to G-d directly for protection?

6th

Gods a very busy (wo)man.

kennett, could you elabotate on what you think would/could happen if you continued to be uncareful and what could come of attracting "bad spirits".

Zillah

6th wrote:

kennett, could you elabotate on what you think would/could happen if you continued to be uncareful and what could come of attracting "bad spirits".

This question has always been a stickler for me. When I was first on the forum I posted a thread essentially saying "So, where's haunted, what do I do to experience something cool?" and I got a barrage of "Nooo! Its dangerous, you have no idea the peril you put yourself in!"

To this day no one has explained in any detail what it is exactly that evil spirits can do to you.

Aisling&M

I believe there are certain rules and a sense of order on the higher planes of spirit........and I believe there is some sort of 'chain of command'.....and certain angels are given specific responsibilities (energy is what I mean by angels). It's like saying:

"I like to eat rice"..........."Why don't I grow my own?"......I can't physically do it so I leave it to mother nature to create"

If you had a faulty CD would you go to the recording artist to fix it or to the distributor?

Aisling&M

Zillah wrote:

This question has always been a stickler for me. When I was first on the forum I posted a thread essentially saying "So, where's haunted, what do I do to experience something cool?" and I got a barrage of "Nooo! Its dangerous, you have no idea the peril you put yourself in!"

To this day no one has explained in any detail what it is exactly that evil spirits can do to you.

I'm lucky enough to not have met any truly nasty entities. I think a lot of perception of evil/negativity is in error (perfectly human error)...

A lot of the times I have seen appearingly negative entities travel with a person. Often the effects are very negative as the entity/spirit needs energy to manifest itself and create a presence in a physical reality. Often an open energy field is like an open invitation and spirits not meaning harm and unintentionally causing it to the person the are attached to.........very often just looking for recognition.

Sometimes negative entities are a false front. I had one experience where a spirit gave off an 'evil' and 'monstrous' persona only to turn out to be a little boy spirit using it as a defense as he was confused afraid.

I had cleansed the room and asked for protection and therefore knew that this appearingly negative energy was important and let in only because he needed help and wasn't actual harmful. Quite a cutie actually.

6th

Zillah wrote:

This question has always been a stickler for me. When I was first on the forum I posted a thread essentially saying "So, where's haunted, what do I do to experience something cool?" and I got a barrage of "Nooo! Its dangerous, you have no idea the peril you put yourself in!"

To this day no one has explained in any detail what it is exactly that evil spirits can do to you.

When i first came here I read through alot of threads and I remember that one alright. Its part of the reason I organised the trips and open it up to anyone (within reason). I understand that people are interested and that once people are sensibile no one is any real great danger.

kshiel

I suppose (haven't read your thread on that) that some people feel that there is not only good energy out there but bad as well, just as there are good and bad people, and that if not prepared for it we could face psychological damage in some form or another. Personally I have not been faced with something truly evil, maybe mis-understood a couple of times through fear but nothing that would do me intentional harm. I think its kinda like people saying just cause you have a car does not mean you can drive.

I think what 6th said about the investigations is a good way to start into something like this with sense of course.

Have you experienced anything Cool Yet Zillah.?

Zillah

kshiel wrote:

I suppose (haven't read your thread on that) that some people feel that there is not only good energy out there but bad as well, just as there are good and bad people, and that if not prepared for it we could face psychological damage in some form or another.

But what kind? Can they inflict you with multiple personality disorder? Make you paranoid schizophrenic? Can they remove your ability to feel love/fear or whatever?

Or is the only example mind breaking terror. In which case, is it really something they do as opposed to something that happens when a human gets really really scared.


I suppose the best way to explain it would be to ask if there is anything that could result from an evil ghost encounter that couldn't happen from any terrifying encounter, such as a bear attack or a car crash?

Have you experienced anything Cool Yet Zillah.?

No, not really. In Charleville castle there was a particular corridor that scared the absolute crap out of me (repeatidly) but thats about it.

kshiel

Zillah wrote:

But what kind? Can they inflict you with multiple personality disorder? Make you paranoid schizophrenic? Can they remove your ability to feel love/fear or whatever?

Or is the only example mind breaking terror. In which case, is it really something they do as opposed to something that happens when a human gets really really scared.

I suppose the best way to explain it would be to ask if there is anything that could result from an evil ghost encounter that couldn't happen from any terrifying encounter, such as a bear attack or a car crash?.

I honestly dont know, but take maybe the school yard bully who uses verbal abuse instead of say a puch or a kick, this has known to have an effect on the their target in a more psychological sence than phycial, who caused it the bully or the person been targeted.

Mind breaking terror, is probally the only real answer anyone can give without having experienced any phycial scars to show us.

In a bear attack or car crash where the victim has not been injured bodily or even if they have they may retain mental scars from the incident itself, by reliving it through nightmares etc.

I guess what i am trying to say is until we can prove that spirits do exist we cannot determine what there effect is directly on us but imagine if you are standing in front of an image or feeling something which you believe to be an evil or bad force causing it, the effect it has on that person is unique in that no two people act or react the same, but none the less real to that person. This is where I feel protection or the mind state of protection is vital to the person entering a haunted location.

I dont know if that is kinda dancing around the subject but it is the only way I could explain it in my own opinion.