Party 1/2 HH

tacker

Villan has only been at the table for one round.No reads at all
***** Hand History for Game 5198348325 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Mon Sep 18 16:48:30 EDT 2006
Table Table 107404 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: TigerSeb ( $186.21)
Seat 2: mayotacker ( $239.65)
Seat 3: Trigger3433 ( $357.61)
Seat 4: BoomersNuts ( $100)
Seat 5: ATLIEN007 ( $197.95)
Seat 6: mfw0015 ( $205)
mayotacker posts small blind (1)
Trigger3433 posts big blind (2)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mayotacker [ Qc, Qh ]
ATLIEN007 raises (6) to 6
mfw0015 calls (6)
TigerSeb calls (6)
mayotacker raises (19) to 20
Trigger3433 folds.
ATLIEN007 folds.
mfw0015 raises (128) to 134
TigerSeb folds.
My move?

Ste05

Call. I'd say he has a low PP.

spectre

call

fuzzbox

yuck - unless you have seen him do crazy stuff you can fold this.

tacker

I pushed the rest in,he had AA and they held up.

jbravado

What did you think he had?

A huge amount of the time this is aa or kk-pretty handy fold imho.

tacker

I thought he could have 99 1010 jj since he just called the first raise.

fuzzbox

tacker wrote:

I thought he could have 99 1010 jj since he just called the first raise.

Usually he just calls the 2nd raise with those hands.

He has AA/KK/AK about 95% of the time, and they normally dont have AK.

If you have seen him make crazy plays, then QQ is fine, if not, then lay it down.

Ste05

fuzzbox wrote:

Usually he just calls the 2nd raise with those hands.

He has AA/KK/AK about 95% of the time, and they normally dont have AK.

If you have seen him make crazy plays, then QQ is fine, if not, then lay it down.

I disagree.

Usually against an UTG 3xBB raiser, UTG+1 will re-raise with AA or KK, not flat call and hands like AK, 99, TT, JJ, etc. will be more likely to flat call.

Then, after mutliple callers, the SB makes a re-raise, which could very easily be a squeeze play or a raise with a hand like AK, (obviously I wouldn't be advocating always raising here with AK, but against an unknown player, I assume they'll put this well in our range) just as much as it could be a raise with AA or KK. Any of these hands could easily push here thinking they have good fold equity or are in a race against something like AK.

To say 95% of the time someone will have AA/KK/AK here I'd disagree with, IMO I'd break it down more like 10% AA/KK; 40% AK; 50% JJ-.

And I'd actually go the other way and say unless I've seen him slow/passively play big hands like this, I'd call with QQ here everytime, and assume he's a donkey and puts us on AK and thinks we'll fold or he's racing if we call and vice versa if he has AK.