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Dunphy the tv pundit

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Slurms wrote:
    From watching The Premiership and the CL coverage last night I've noticed Dunphy seems to be 'bigging up' Liverpool alot these days! Kinda odd.

    As for a pundit, to be fair he ain't great but he is entertaining. And, for the mostpart, he can pronounce players names unlike Giles who struggles with any name with more that 3 syllables.
    Yes Eamonn said at the weekend that he thinks a mediocre Liverpool will challenge Chelsea for the Premiership this year,after slating them for the last 2 years .
    He was oozing on about Italian football for years ,tonight he said Italian teams were poor and wouldnt win the Champions league.
    He didnt think Barcelona deserved to win the Champions league last year.
    He tipped AC Milan ,if I remember correctly ,he said you could put your house on them to win the Champions League the year Deportivo thrashed them .
    After saying Utd were a spent force for years (correctly) he amazingly then fancied Man Utd to win the Champions League ,2 years ago ,a team that was in major decline .
    His predictions are awful ,he lets his heart rule his head but he does analyse players and teams in general pretty well and is entertaining to watch unlike the muppets at ITV,Sky and a lesser extent BBC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭Big Chief


    never have and never will like dunphy, he annoys me and like eirebhoy says -
    Dunphy is the reason I can't stand watching Celtic games on RTE.

    couldnt agree more


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Ferdinand is a clown though. He has been so far this season anyway. He deserves every bit of stick he gets from Dunphy and Giles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    In fairness RTE have footie down when it comes to the panel. Sky don't ever talk down the premiership, instead you have to endure "greatest league in teh world" ever second sentence. The shock on Redknapps face when Roy was on and Roy didn't agree because basically they are all yes boys over on sky.

    The world cup on rte was funny to start with. Souness so used to the Sky way of things was afraid to say what he really felt then after 1 show where the lads let rip he suddenly realised you can actually be truthful on this show! My personally I like Dunphy, I think he is class to watch and really the only reason I watch RTE. Celtic games? Well I couldn't care less about Celtic so that doesn't affect me. But who do you prefer a good old fashioned argument on RTE or a bunch of nodding yes dogs over on Sky with Andy (utterly useless and over the top tv graphics) Gray!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭SectionF


    iregk wrote:
    In fairness RTE have footie down when it comes to the panel. Sky don't ever talk down the premiership, instead you have to endure "greatest league in teh world" ever second sentence. ....My personally I like Dunphy, I think he is class to watch and really the only reason I watch RTE. Celtic games? Well I couldn't care less about Celtic so that doesn't affect me. But who do you prefer a good old fashioned argument on RTE or a bunch of nodding yes dogs over on Sky with Andy (utterly useless and over the top tv graphics) Gray!
    That's a fair take. Dunphy's a class act, as an entertainer and controversialist. His first rule is that he is not afraid to say anything, so long as it gets him noticed as a spikey performer. But he does spout a lot of codswallop: contempt is his principal commodity, and he dresses it up well as insight and analysis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Paul007


    RTE's coverage is good but I can't help wondering how 'controversial' the panel would be if they were broadcasting in England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,665 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Okie doke + Giles + Dunphy = <3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    ah Dunphy's grand, always good for a laugh. Can't disagree with any of his sentiments on Rio or Ronaldo for that matter.

    Gas thing is, fans of every club think Eamo is "anti-my team" :rolleyes:

    He's no worse than the Andy Gray fella, irritating isnt the word... :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,920 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    I avoid watching the games on RTE actually. I hate the commentary and I hate the guys in the studio. Yea Dunphy can come out with some funny stuff but i find myself laighing at him and giles and not with them. Liam Brady knows what he is talking about but I just cant stand his voice and tone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Waster


    Savman wrote:
    ah Dunphy's grand, always good for a laugh. Can't disagree with any of his sentiments on Rio or Ronaldo for that matter.

    Gas thing is, fans of every club think Eamo is "anti-my team" :rolleyes:

    He's no worse than the Andy Gray fella, irritating isnt the word... :mad:
    On Tue Eamo said that Ronaldo is brain dead. Hilarious.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Paul007 wrote:
    I can't help wondering how 'controversial' the panel would be if they were broadcasting in England.

    Exactly thats the strong point of RTE. Its not our product so we can be liberal and have a fairly abstract opinion on the subject. In england they are very afraid to say anything bad in case it causes a slump in their market place. Remember sky have no interest in giving you unbiased analasys. They have a product to sell and they give you the sales pitch. The beed are just patriotic w***ers and I can no longer watch football focus or motd due to their over whelming smugness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    iregk wrote:
    Exactly thats the strong point of RTE. Its not our product so we can be liberal and have a fairly abstract opinion on the subject. In england they are very afraid to say anything bad in case it causes a slump in their market place. Remember sky have no interest in giving you unbiased analasys. They have a product to sell and they give you the sales pitch. The beed are just patriotic w***ers and I can no longer watch football focus or motd due to their over whelming smugness.

    here here........or is that spelt hear hear?!?


    ah you get my point, Well said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Dunphy seams to despise English football now , he used to love it a few years back when he was sniping at the EL or the chicken league as he used to call it --
    anyway he has called for Chelsea to be pulled out of Champions league for Mourinhos comments and their performance tonight --
    a little radical Eamon !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    I like him and Giles and sometimes Brady.
    But I can't stand Houghton! For some reason I seem to disagree with every thing he says.
    Maybe its just me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭CivilServant


    ferdi wrote:
    he's always making sweeing statements and huge generalisations, smacks of someone who dosnt have a clue tbh
    He's an old man. Leave him be. It makes great entertainment for those who don't take him seriously. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭sc317


    But I can't stand Houghton! For some reason I seem to disagree with every thing he says.
    Maybe its just me?

    No, I think Ray Houghton seems to disagree with everything he says because he contradicts most of what he says anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭NotWormBoy


    Ah, Dunphy... I wouldn't replace him, but neither would I take his footballing opinions seriously. Brady and Giles know their stuff, and will say what they think pretty fairly. Dunphy doesn't, and will say it however he likes, that's why he's there - for the controversy, for the viewers, for RTÉ.

    But he'll rarely, if ever, admit to being wrong, even when its plainer than the nose on his face. If he realises that Giles agrees with him, he'll rip unmercilessly into a player and keep on going - far beyond where was required. He was right about Ronaldo at the World Cup, but he didn't need to go quite so far. I loved it when he got a goal just to wipe the smirk off Dunphy's face. Just like I loved when LFC beat Milan in Istanbul, and he had to sit there and talk about it.

    I love hating him.

    At this stage, he's just looking for things to be controversial about though. He's doing it to keep up the "says it like it is" opinion that people have of him. He'd get a bit more respect as a pundit though, if he wasn't as ... harsh, and if he praised players more, where it was due. But thats not what he's after. Because if he didn't have the reputation he has now ... he wouldn't have anything.God forbid he'd have to rely on his looks in that case...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    he was in flying form again tonight -- Ferdinand, Carrick and Ronaldo -- got another dose of Eamons ranting - boring -- and then Houghton --
    i'm not a big Ray fan , as a panelist (great midfielder for us ) -- but he did not respond to Eamons jibes , and behaved like a gentleman , when others might had a crack at Eamons own footbal career - Milwall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭el rabitos


    u dont need to have been a top footballer to know what your doing/talking about after your carreer

    dunphy was right in what he was saying tonight, his way of communicating his point is what makes him come across as agressive and idiotic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Dunphy said last night that he played with George Best and he reckons Rooney is better than him. While I think he's going a bit ott with Rooney, I'm glad someone isn't biased towards players just because they may have seen them play 40 years ago. Ask someone to list the all time best 10 players and you'll be doing well if they listed one from the last decade even though footballers must surely be improving.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    I'm not sure Eireboy. The thing is most will throw in people that they have never seen play basically due to their name and reputation. For example. We have all watched videos of Pele but we only see the good highlights. I honestly don't know how good pele was as I wasn't around when he was playing so I never got to see his bad games or how frequent they were. That said he would still be in my all time 11. Why? basically because popular opinion is that he was the best. Wait 10 years when you see the WC coming around and videos of Zidane you will remember how amazing he was. We grew up with him so we will also remember how it took him till his mid 20's to get to grips with big games. This sort of thing gets forgotten in the passage of football history.

    Growing up on Italian football due to my family (no im not italian) I can tell you exactly how good Giacinto Facchetti was. Possibly the best left full in history, although being a Milan boy I'd have to give it to Paulo instead! But could many others? I'd say possibly Kearnsr would but thats about it.

    Christ thats way off topic isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭sprinkles


    last night was hillarious... dunphy sitting beside Houghton and pretty much calling him an idiot

    I thought it was going to end with Bill breaking the 2 kids up and send ing them to their rooms :) but I guess that's what makes it so appealing to watch.

    On the topic of Houghton, I think he could be contender for the most negative person in the world. If a shot is saved, he doesn't say "good save" or "well done keeper" he lambasts the striker for missing. He highlights bad touches, mistimed passes etc but very rarely mentions the pinpoint passes and any tricks etc. But I guesss he's allowed to do that because lord knows he never mistimed a pass before :rolleyes:

    He's very annoying. Dunphy/Giles/Brady ftw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    iregk wrote:
    I'm not sure Eireboy. The thing is most will throw in people that they have never seen play basically due to their name and reputation. For example. We have all watched videos of Pele but we only see the good highlights. I honestly don't know how good pele was as I wasn't around when he was playing so I never got to see his bad games or how frequent they were. That said he would still be in my all time 11. Why? basically because popular opinion is that he was the best. Wait 10 years when you see the WC coming around and videos of Zidane you will remember how amazing he was. We grew up with him so we will also remember how it took him till his mid 20's to get to grips with big games. This sort of thing gets forgotten in the passage of football history.
    That's weird, I had the very same conversation with my brother in law over the weekend. I don't like it when someone can say that a player that they have never seen is the best ever player to have put on a jersey. And sure it's all very subjective anyway.
    sprinkles wrote:
    last night was hillarious... dunphy sitting beside Houghton and pretty much calling him an idiot

    I thought it was going to end with Bill breaking the 2 kids up and send ing them to their rooms but I guess that's what makes it so appealing to watch.
    I thought that was brilliant last night. Houghton wouldn't even look at Dunphy when he was having a pop at him. And in fainess, Dunphy did have a point even if his point may have been lost due to his belligerence in doing so, which is quite often the case.

    I also thought it was funny when he was asked before the match what type of game it was going to be and he said that it'd be a borefest so he'll be watching one of the other matches instead. Bill was none too pleased, as was the production team I would imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    ziggy67 wrote:
    That wouldn't bother RTE- Man Utd could be playing tiddlywinks and they would show it.
    True, but it's not very professional.

    I know, I know. RTE / Professional. No need to point out the contradiction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    small bit off topic
    When Bill turned to Giles at half time for his views
    Giles came out with a comment like - what do you want me to do, cry
    Went something like that, thought it was brilliant cos he actually meant it too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    iregk wrote:
    I'm not sure Eireboy. The thing is most will throw in people that they have never seen play basically due to their name and reputation. For example. We have all watched videos of Pele but we only see the good highlights. I honestly don't know how good pele was as I wasn't around when he was playing so I never got to see his bad games or how frequent they were. That said he would still be in my all time 11. Why? basically because popular opinion is that he was the best. Wait 10 years when you see the WC coming around and videos of Zidane you will remember how amazing he was. We grew up with him so we will also remember how it took him till his mid 20's to get to grips with big games. This sort of thing gets forgotten in the passage of football history.
    Aye but I'd be pretty sure Ronaldinho would stick out amongst everyone if he was the player he is now back 40 years ago...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    Listen to me when I’m Tolkien to you Houghton: back in your hobbit hole you grim, hairy footed, negative little scottshobbit. I was never aware of his moaning until somebody pointed out his constant negative attitude to me; I can’t hear anything but his nit-picking now.

    Dunphy (Old Scrote Face) tells it like he sees it. He's not always correct, but then again he doesn't toe the line of the general consensus simply to gain popularity like some do. I often flick between UTV (worst commentators and analysis on the box) to see how insipid their viewpoints really are. There’s never a word of controversy said by any of them - especially that Townsend fella – and their contribution is all the poorer for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    Maybe they should do a an "analyst swap" sometime like wifeswap. Make a documentary out of it.

    I'd love to see how Brady, Giles and especially Dunphy would go down with the British public (and Richard Keyes), even just for 1 show. I think the majority would find them refreshing.

    And after an evening with Gray, Rednap or even Chris Kamarra we might appreciate them bit more.


    Also Ray Houghton is really bad. He's just the generic ex-footballer that talks plenty but when you really break it down, does n't say much at all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    eirebhoy wrote:
    Aye but I'd be pretty sure Ronaldinho would stick out amongst everyone if he was the player he is now back 40 years ago...

    Probably true. But what I'm saying is that when we see the older days, puskas, di steffano, pele etc... we only see their highlights. Most have no idea what they were really like. Ronaldinho now gives you about 15 mins a game. The rest of the time he is no where. Now like I said earlier, in 20 years time when we see snippets of him we will be reminded of how magical he was and forget that mostly he is nowhere to be seen.


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