The original 9/11

Mr. Presentable

http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1649/september_11_1649_37252.html

Let us also remember them when we are remembering the dead in a foreign country

Capt'n Midnight

No it's not the original one.. nor the worst

* 1185 - Isaac II Angelus kills Stephanus Hagiochristophorites and then appeals to the people, resulting in the revolt which deposes Andronicus I Comnenus and places Isaac on the throne of the Byzantine Empire.
* 1541 - Santiago, Chile, is destroyed by indigenous warriors, lead by Michimalonko.
* 1609 - Expulsion order announced against the Moriscos of Valencia; beginning of the expulsion of all Spain's Moriscos.
* 1649 - Siege of Drogheda ends: Oliver Cromwell's English Parliamentarian troops take the town and massacre its garrison.
* 1857 - The Mountain Meadows Massacre: Mormon settlers and Paiutes massacre 120 pioneers at Mountain Meadows, Utah. (population of US was far smaller then)
* 1888 - Death of the Argentine politician Domingo Sarmiento, after whom the Latin American Teacher's Day was chosen. (see 1973)
* 1897 - After months of pursuit, generals of Menelik II of Ethiopia capture Gaki Sherocho, the last king of Kaffa, bringing an end to that ancient kingdom.
* 1919 - US Marines invade Honduras.
* 1921 - Nahalal, the first moshav in Israel, is settled.
* 1943 - World War II: start of the liquidation of the Ghettos in Minsk and Lida by the Nazis.
* 1944 - The RAF bombing raid on Darmstadt and the following firestorm kill 11,500.
* 1965 - The 1st Cavalry Division of the United States Army arrives in Vietnam.
* 1973 - A military coup in Chile headed by General Augusto Pinochet topples the democratically elected President Salvador Allende. Pinochet remains in power for almost 17 years.
* 1981 - The Pee-wee Herman Show airs as a special on HBO.
* 1982 - The international forces, which were guaranteeing the safety of Palestinian refugees following Israel's 1982 Invasion of Lebanon, left Beirut. Five days later, several thousand refugees were massacred in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.
* 2001 - Spike* in US transport fatalities, causes knee jerk reaction, security on internal flights approaches that used for decades on ones across the Irish Sea, laws on guns and other weapons are still increadibly lax compared to those in Ireland and the UK.

* this spike was the average number of civilians killed by the US military every 6.1 days since the end of WWII

piraka

I am suprised that the dropping of the two atomic bombs on Japan is not included on this list

sceptre

piraka wrote:

I am suprised that the dropping of the two atomic bombs on Japan is not included on this list

Given that they happened in August rather than in September, let alone September 11, there's no reason why they should be.

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

1981 - The Pee-wee Herman Show airs as a special on HBO.

Pee-wee's Playhouse apparently got a 45-episode re-run on the Cartoon network this year. And Paul Reubens isn't dead. And there's a movie coming.

Capt'n Midnight

piraka wrote:

I am suprised that the dropping of the two atomic bombs on Japan is not included on this list

why should it be ?

I've just finished Flyboys by James Bradley and he points out that the atomic bomb was a $2Bn project, but the B-29's cost $660,000 each so overall that project cost $3Bn.

On Friday, March the 9th, 1945 334 B29's arrived over Tokoyo. The bulk of the raid took two hours and fourty minutes. An estimated 100,000 people were killed. 16 square miles were burnt out completely, over the whole city 1/4 of the buildings had vanashed. ( By comparison Berlin lost 10 square miles and not in just one night )

In March they dropped 13,800 tons on Japan

page 290 wrote:

Flyboys competely dominated Japan's skies. Curtis later wrote that by this time, "it was actually safer to fly a combat mission over Japan in a B-29 than it was to fly a B-29 training mission back in the United States. Truth. The fatality rate in the training program was higher than the rate in combat." And after the B-29's burned out all of Japan's cities, there were other aggressive palns if Japan did not surrender. "The rice paddies might be sprayed with oil, defoliants, or biological agents, and the procduction of fertilixer further attacker."

Page 297 wrote:

The U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey stated that the atomic bomb at Hiroshima was the equilvent of 220 fully loaded B-29's. "Accordingly, a single atomic explosion represented no order-of-magnitude increase in destructiveness over a conventional air raid."

They were preparing to drop 115,000 tons a month in September.

On August 14th 45% of Kumagaya, and 17% of Isezki went up.

Flex

nipplenuts wrote:

http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1649/september_11_1649_37252.html

Let us also remember them when we are remembering the dead in a foreign country

Thanks for posting that

mcgarnicle

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

why should it be ?

I've just finished Flyboys by James Bradley and he points out that the atomic bomb was a $2Bn project, but the B-29's cost $660,000 each so overall that project cost $3Bn.

On Friday, March the 9th, 1945 334 B29's arrived over Tokoyo. The bulk of the raid took two hours and fourty minutes. An estimated 100,000 people were killed. 16 square miles were burnt out completely, over the whole city 1/4 of the buildings had vanashed. ( By comparison Berlin lost 10 square miles and not in just one night )

In March they dropped 13,800 tons on Japan




They were preparing to drop 115,000 tons a month in September.

On August 14th 45% of Kumagaya, and 17% of Isezki went up.

Guess they should have surrendered then.