Some folds and a sick push

cardshark202

Fitz 1-2 PLH

Hand 1:

Villian (ex fitz dealer) has about 600ish and I cover. He seems to be playing pretty TAG but has made one noticeably bad call. I have been playing LAGish as usual but have not got out of line much.

I get AA in EP and make it 7, one caller, villian makes it 30. Folded to me, I make it 100. He thinks for ages, asks how much I am playing, and thinks some more. Seems like he's deciding whether to push or call. He eventually calls.

Flop: KTx rainbow
I check, he checks behind.

Turn: Q
I check, he bets 175, I fold.

Hand 2:

Same villian, we are both playing between 750 and 800.

Loads of limpers, I get AA in the CO and make it 15. 5 callers including villian who is to my immediate right.

Flop 235 rainbow.
Checked to me, I bet 65, UTG (weakish tight player, unlikely to have a set or 2 pair because he would have check-raised) thinks for a while and just calls. Villian thinks for a while and makes it 200. I fold, UTG folds.

Hand 3:

Some history, I have re-raised almost every UTG blind raise when in position. Last time I had to show my hand when a short-stack limp-re-raised all in for what was essentially a min-raise. I have AT, he has AQ and I miss. Hand 3 is very next hand.

Player makes it 7 on the blind, next player makes it 15 on the blind. 2 limpers to me(including the same villian as above), I make it 65 with A3o. Folded to 2nd blinds raiser UTG+1 (He can make some fairly loose calls preflop) who calls. 1st limper calls all in for 35 (this was expected, he is most likely to have something like suited connectors or KJ or QJ or something). Villian also calls.

I have about 600 left and villian covers.

Flop J83 rainbow.
Checked to me, I bet 150. UTG+1 folds, villian thinks for a while and makes it 400. I think and think. I have a sick feeling my hand is good. After a few minutes, I say: "I can't fold this for the third time". Someone else at the table says: "You have aces again?". I then push for another 200. Villian thinks and says: "I can't call this" and folds!

Thoughts?

luckyvegas7

firstly is this 1/2 yea?...


Hand 1:

pre flop ok..

I dont like giving any free cards with AA so ill prob pot the flop to him depending on your read. We all know his hand range here, quite possible you let him hit his pockets queens on the turn. Again depending on the read of villain its either a check or bet, folding to a pot bet or re raise. It whats so good about live cash games to online, you dont know where u are online as supposed to live, maybe you got a good read on him and dumped the rockets like a man! ...did he show you his cards ?.

Hand 2: With 5 limpers here im raising to at least 20, i find 15 to small and if one calls you know they will all think of the value and call.. i think this hand stinks of an over pair, i dont think he is re raising the flop with a set...i think your ahead on this one. i would have pushed here, and be gutted to see his a4o ..

Hand 3: sick push alrite! i love the speech play...say he went mental when u flipped em over

ianmc38

Hand 1: Your description makes it sound like KK.

Hand 2: Wouldnt let it go so easy

Hand 3: Sick push becuase the villain should have 0 folding equity. Pathetic that he folded really, regardless of the speechplay.

ocallagh

hand 1 probably a fold. not much apart from AK that you beat. I don't mind the check on the flop. Apart from AK not much will call you here that you beat.
hand 2 i don't think it's such a good fold. There are a lot of hands even TAG's will raise with on this flop. JJ-KK namely (even something like 88 or 99).
hand 3 cannot really be anaylsed on a forum ya sicko!!

spectre

Hand 1: You played it fine.

Hand 2: Horrible position to be in considering the deep stacks involved. I'd find this very difficult to lay down. Would he do this with 45 or 44? If you call, you're probably going to be faced with a big turn bet which will be very difficult to call on a non-Ace, non-4 turn.

Hand 3: Appears to be mainly read dependent, the hand reads pretty sick but if you think you're good, by all means stick it in. Great read by the way

cardshark202

ocallagh wrote:

hand 1 probably a fold. not much apart from AK that you beat. I don't mind the check on the flop. Apart from AK not much will call you here that you beat.
hand 2 i don't think it's such a good fold. There are a lot of hands even TAG's will raise with on this flop. JJ-KK namely (even something like 88 or 99).
hand 3 cannot really be anaylsed on a forum ya sicko!!

Yes I thought the second hand was less of a clear fold. Ironically the other player claimed to have A5 lol. Bit of muppetry there. But I don't know what villian had.

Hand 3 i included because i think hands 1 and 2 played a large part in my thought process, which probably makes the fold in hand 2 look worse. I am wondering on people's thoughts regarding the push and how crazy it was because i really should have next to 0 fold equity. I was wondering if there are any hands he should be folding there. Should he be folding 66 to the push?

rogue trader

Only hand 1 interests me....

Why did you check the flop?
Why did you check the turn?
Did you not consider that he might have JJ, AQ or any pocket pair ftm or more importantly, that 2 checks smells very weak?
Why does everyone assume he had KK?

In Hand 3 you re raise with A3o and then push all-in after thinking your 3 is good (correct read so i commend you) but in my opinion, this is overshadowed by your poor play in hand 1.

fuzzbox

rogue trader wrote:

Why does everyone assume he had KK?

They dont - he could have QQ or TT also

rogue trader

or he could have nothing!

If he is prepared to bet 800 on a pair of 3's why is folding a 175 bet when he holds Aces the right play. let's not forget, This is a cash game in the Fitz not a MTT. This is an instant raise to me.

Bandana boy

cardshark202 wrote:

Fitz 1-2 PLH

Hand 1:

Villian (ex fitz dealer) has about 600ish and I cover. He seems to be playing pretty TAG but has made one noticeably bad call. I have been playing LAGish as usual but have not got out of line much.

I get AA in EP and make it 7, one caller, villian makes it 30. Folded to me, I make it 100. He thinks for ages, asks how much I am playing, and thinks some more. Seems like he's deciding whether to push or call. He eventually calls.

Flop: KTx rainbow
I check, he checks behind.

Turn: Q
I check, he bets 175, I fold.

Hand 2:

Same villian, we are both playing between 750 and 800.

Loads of limpers, I get AA in the CO and make it 15. 5 callers including villian who is to my immediate right.

Flop 235 rainbow.
Checked to me, I bet 65, UTG (weakish tight player, unlikely to have a set or 2 pair because he would have check-raised) thinks for a while and just calls. Villian thinks for a while and makes it 200. I fold, UTG folds.

Hand 3:

Some history, I have re-raised almost every UTG blind raise when in position. Last time I had to show my hand when a short-stack limp-re-raised all in for what was essentially a min-raise. I have AT, he has AQ and I miss. Hand 3 is very next hand.

Player makes it 7 on the blind, next player makes it 15 on the blind. 2 limpers to me(including the same villian as above), I make it 65 with A3o. Folded to 2nd blinds raiser UTG+1 (He can make some fairly loose calls preflop) who calls. 1st limper calls all in for 35 (this was expected, he is most likely to have something like suited connectors or KJ or QJ or something). Villian also calls.

I have about 600 left and villian covers.

Flop J83 rainbow.
Checked to me, I bet 150. UTG+1 folds, villian thinks for a while and makes it 400. I think and think. I have a sick feeling my hand is good. After a few minutes, I say: "I can't fold this for the third time". Someone else at the table says: "You have aces again?". I then push for another 200. Villian thinks and says: "I can't call this" and folds!

Thoughts?

Hand 1 if guy has been tag then your not ahead of much so fold is not horrible

So you have been pretty lag surely op to flop and hand 2 reraises you not just set or straight ?
not sure this was good laydown

Hand 3 well it worked thats about all i can say

Bandana boy

cardshark202 wrote:

Fitz 1-2 PLH

Hand 1:

Villian (ex fitz dealer) has about 600ish and I cover. He seems to be playing pretty TAG but has made one noticeably bad call. I have been playing LAGish as usual but have not got out of line much.

I get AA in EP and make it 7, one caller, villian makes it 30. Folded to me, I make it 100. He thinks for ages, asks how much I am playing, and thinks some more. Seems like he's deciding whether to push or call. He eventually calls.

Flop: KTx rainbow
I check, he checks behind.

Turn: Q
I check, he bets 175, I fold.

Hand 2:

Same villian, we are both playing between 750 and 800.

Loads of limpers, I get AA in the CO and make it 15. 5 callers including villian who is to my immediate right.

Flop 235 rainbow.
Checked to me, I bet 65, UTG (weakish tight player, unlikely to have a set or 2 pair because he would have check-raised) thinks for a while and just calls. Villian thinks for a while and makes it 200. I fold, UTG folds.

Hand 3:

Some history, I have re-raised almost every UTG blind raise when in position. Last time I had to show my hand when a short-stack limp-re-raised all in for what was essentially a min-raise. I have AT, he has AQ and I miss. Hand 3 is very next hand.

Player makes it 7 on the blind, next player makes it 15 on the blind. 2 limpers to me(including the same villian as above), I make it 65 with A3o. Folded to 2nd blinds raiser UTG+1 (He can make some fairly loose calls preflop) who calls. 1st limper calls all in for 35 (this was expected, he is most likely to have something like suited connectors or KJ or QJ or something). Villian also calls.

I have about 600 left and villian covers.

Flop J83 rainbow.
Checked to me, I bet 150. UTG+1 folds, villian thinks for a while and makes it 400. I think and think. I have a sick feeling my hand is good. After a few minutes, I say: "I can't fold this for the third time". Someone else at the table says: "You have aces again?". I then push for another 200. Villian thinks and says: "I can't call this" and folds!

Thoughts?

Hand 1 if guy has been tag then your not ahead of much so fold is not horrible

Hand 2 So you have been pretty lag he is Tag surely op to flop reraises you not just set or straight ?
not sure this was good laydown

Hand 3 well it worked thats about all i can say

Gholimoli

Hand 1 :
Not sure about the check on the flop. i think a ¾ pot bet would be appropriate here.
I can see why you checked as well so a check is not bad by any means and after the turn card fold is good.

Hand 2:
I donno why you folded here.your read on villain is also not correct as demonstrated in hand 3 which shows this is not a good fold.
I think villain has figured that you don’t like to play for stacks with just a pair and is taking advantage.
His raise here IMO is one that is designed to get you off the pot as oppose to building the pot which means I don’t think his got a set.
Also if he is slow playing any PP 88+ he would prob make the same move putting you on over cards.


Hand 3:
What are you doing here?
What’s worse is that it clearly shows that villain is muppet.

cardshark202

Gholimoli wrote:

Hand 1 :
Not sure about the check on the flop. i think a ¾ pot bet would be appropriate here.
I can see why you checked as well so a check is not bad by any means and after the turn card fold is good.

Hand 2:
I donno why you folded here.your read on villain is also not correct as demonstrated in hand 3 which shows this is not a good fold.
I think villain has figured that you don’t like to play for stacks with just a pair and is taking advantage.
His raise here IMO is one that is designed to get you off the pot as oppose to building the pot which means I don’t think his got a set.
Also if he is slow playing any PP 88+ he would prob make the same move putting you on over cards.


Hand 3:
What are you doing here?
What’s worse is that it clearly shows that villain is muppet.

Yeah afterwards I wasn't sure about the fold in hand two, however I don't think villian will re-raise with any overpair, unless he does it as a bluff. What it came down to in the end is that I begrudgingly gave him respect for a big hand. However, if hand 3 had occured first, I would probably have been much less likely to fold hand 2.