Finding out what cals you're really getting from foods

junii

eg. Milk - 121 cals per 1/4L. 20% of that is protein.

If your body doesn't need to convert the protein in the milk to carbohydrates because you already have enough carbohydrates in your diet, are you really getting 121cals per 1/4L seen as 20% of that may have been excreted.

Or this this 121 cals based on not converting the protein to carbs?

g'em

junii, I have a huge amount of respect for the effort you're putting into your diet, I really truly do, but don't overcomplicate things for yourself. If you put even half the mount of energy into putting food n your mouth as you do creating new threads here I have absolutely no doubt that the 2 stone will go on in no time!!!

I'm really not trying to be flippant, but remember that a lot of this will be trial and error. You'll have to wait and see what kind of diet regime suits you- what foods will help you gain weight, what foods do you like eating, what times are best for you to eat... at the end of the day everyone responds slightly differently so the best thing for now is to keep a food log, record everything, try and give yourself a basic plan to eat around and start stuffing yourself!! It's taken me the best part of a year to figure out how I respond to different things and I've no doubt I'll continue to tweak my diet and I'm sure many other people here will say the same thing. Don't make things more difficult than they need to be.

Less typing, more eating

justsomebloke

g'em wrote:

Less typing, more eating

hmmmmmmmm eating

If you ask emmet nicely he will tell you about his milk and squats diet for bulking. Don't ask him to explain why it works just understand that it works. Now this is not to be confused with Mickk's drink your bodyweight in milk and eat like a man possesed diet as this is slightly different and may result in you becoming a beast.

But anyway back on topic just experiment with your food and see what works and everyone is different and different things effect people in different ways e.g. you may be slightly lactose intorrelant and milk mightnt work for you. So just eat and then eat and when you can't eat anymore have a protein shake just to make sure;)

daveirl

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t-ha

junii wrote:

eg. Milk - 121 cals per 1/4L. 20% of that is protein.

If your body doesn't need to convert the protein in the milk to carbohydrates because you already have enough carbohydrates in your diet, are you really getting 121cals per 1/4L seen as 20% of that may have been excreted.

Or this this 121 cals based on not converting the protein to carbs?

I'm not a nutritionist, but I find it hard to believe that the body would throw away calories - it tends to be more of a calorie storing machine!

I've heard before that extra protein cannot be stored as fat but I don't believe this personally. What gets excreted is ammonia, which is formed from the nitrogen from proteins - but I believe the rest of the protein is still used for calories.

I bulked up & added fat last year on a very high protein, low carb, moderate fat diet. The simple fact was that my calorie intake was greater than maintenance so it worked as a bulking diet.

junii

hhmmm, Its just I read somewhere that your body will only convert the proteins to carbohydrates if it there aren't enough carbs available.

edit: anyways, as the guys have advised me above. Im getting ahead of myself here. Im just going to focus on the basics.

Cheers!