Cringey lovestruck email

Dudess

Ok, this is actually fairly old news (a month or six weeks or so) but I only found out about it in the last couple of days.
Basically, this guy sent a really overblown, cringey email to a girl he had only met once (see link below). She proceeded to forward it on to her sister, who then forwarded it on to her friends and, sure enough, the snowball effect kicked in and it has now been sent all over the world.
The guy has been severely severely humiliated (the fact that his phone number was on the email hardly helped). So, what do you guys think:
Was she a heartless bitch for sending it to her sister, or was he asking for it by sending such a ridiculously OTT email, or what? Can't make up my own mind.

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=17795&in_page_id=2

Caco

I remember reading that in the metro a few weeks ago alright! Hilarious but I don't think it was very fair for her to forward it on, it probably serves him right for being such a wierdo! It could have prevented a possible stalking aswell!

Dudess

Yeah, I feel cruel but I just can't help thinking "you idiot! What did you expect behaving like such a weirdo?!" Some people reckon it's creepy in a pervy kind of way. I don't think the guy's intentions were anything like that but, good God, I'd get sick if I got an email like that! Don't think I'd forward it on, though (well, I'd at least delete the phone number and the guy's email address).

Rhyme

Cruel... but, oh God that letter.

BlitzKrieg

dude i have a few of these sort of emails hanging around from last year when a friend of mine got stalked, here they are. funky stuff.

28th February

XXXX,

I wish I could be more conversational rather than sensational, but I don’t know how.



Either I’m thinking too hard about things, making too much of every little action, right or wrong good or bad, and transforming emotions into a giant puzzle of life, death and love in a horrible way, or else I’m just sitting and not thinking. Feeling the glow of good times, until the shock of bad times hits me. Memories that hurt and the knowledge that they remain are incredibly painful.

I guess that over the past few days I’ve become an unwilling drama queen.

As I told [male friend] “Basically as you know I'm extremely personal- all my feelings for all people, places and things are both intellectual and emotional- particularly the feeling of home. Add being emotionally overdramatic like a 14 year old schoolgirl and you've got a timebomb.”



Take the party, as an example.

If [male boyfriend had understood that I needed calming down, rather than sobering up, he would have succeeded in 10 minutes, and then the night would have been more normal, but I wasn’t willing to take him away from you for that time, or to have to explain to him while drunk.

Bear in mind that a part of me wanted to give you your excuse to run to [male boyfriend], because if the only thing that makes me better than him in my eyes was that I’m more mature, and now I’m acting like a lovesick schoolgirl, then he’s the better man.

More than that I was playing to your expectations- you saw an angry drunk, so I gave you one; I didn’t actually get angry until I’d frightened you upstairs- then I got angry that I’d been so much of a fool, and that it’d been so easy.

I guess that I’ve broken more promises than that the party would be alright. I suppose that even if I really did give you what you wanted, I manipulated you in a way I thought I’d never do.



I have a new fear. Being self contained. I need you as the outlet again. I’m going to have more secrets in my life and I will need you to know them.
But I don’t know you, so we aren’t close. I care for you enough to need that closeness, to need that knowledge, but fear for you enough not to want anything from you; because I know it would be grudgingly.

and

18th February

That I am writing this proves at least that I have become too introvert. Life isn’t a game, neither is love. But that doesn’t mean I can’t try and work out the rules.

Though I have sworn not to harm another person, if anything should happen to XXXX, I will have to leave Cambridge not to harm someone.
Should one of my friends become closer to XXXX than I, I do not believe this would be a problem, so long as we remained close.
Should XXXX and I cease to be close, I would become angry at her for the torturous nature I have so far forgiven her, but I cannot believe that I would do her any harm. I would simply become harder to live with.
Should XXXX and I become closer than I had anticipated- became full confidants and/or lovers, I cannot predict my actions. I would be a wildcard. This should perhaps be avoided, but perhaps not.
If I were to stop pursuing XXXX, and attempting to become closer, I would be more than unbearable to live with, I would be monstrous. This must be avoided, and at all costs. Which surely means I must pursue her?

That both choices lead to the impossible opens a third road. If I were to pursue her, and she refuse me, and if we remained close enough… it would be reasonable.

But it appals me that I resist change.

I feel for her, with her, why not simply accept that.

Most of all among all these feelings is fear. Fear of losing her for whatever reason. Fear of losing her opinion, her affection, her person, her life, her laughter.
Fear t that I have shown too much, given too much, drowned her in my life against her will in the same way that I drown in hers willingly.

I need her to trust me.

It is why I have been trying to prove I trust her by opening my secrets.

She has shown me some trust at least. She will go to places with me. I must avoid the words go out or date I fear.

She has agreed to go with me to the next Freddy day. I hope it is like the last, sunny and with many happy children. I hope she will not have to meet all 3, parents and sister.

She has agreed to go with me to Germany in November or December, a long weekend at the Christmas Markets. I want to be alone with her there, but cannot say that. I hope I cannot find the third person. I do not hope for much romance, I will ensure we have separate rooms, or if we become closer by summer, at least separate beds, but to be somewhere no one knows us, somewhere I can speak openly, and smile at her openly, to have 3 days of just us. It would at least give her a chance to see if she could put up with me.

note the second one he sent to her but addressed her in the third person.

Also I have removed all names (i think) and replaced them with either XXXX for my friend or [description] for other people he refers to.

Dudess

I want to be alone with her there, but cannot say that.

Oh, because that would be really inappropriate - unlike stalking. :rolleyes:

Mentalist loser.

Pigman II

Regardless of whether we see each other again, I will use it as I do my other special memories. I will call on it when I am disheartened or low. I will hold it in my heart when I need inspiration. I will keep it with me for moments when I need to find a smile of my own.

in other words "when he's cracking one off."

BlitzKrieg

its a shame i dont have the third one, that was the best of all of them. It was addressed to her ex boyfriend's new girlfriend warning her that her boyfriend was only dating her to hurt him and his friends and that the ex boyfriend was the reason for all his troubles.

Earthhorse

BlitzKrieg wrote:

Also I have removed all names (i think) and replaced them with either XXXX for my friend or [description] for other people he refers to.

All fixed now.

Jules

oh come on that is really unfair, the guy wore his heart on his sleve and how does she repay him, goes and becomes the biggest bitch in the world, no one deserves that at all. she could of easily replied and said like not my type really nice guy whatever and then if he kept at her well yeah alls fair and that jazz, but just completely uncalled for!

BlitzKrieg

ok i got that edited cheers.

Fanny Cradock

whatever about him (I only glanced at the letter), it's a poor reflection on her, tbh.

Dudess

jules80 wrote:

oh come on that is really unfair, the guy wore his heart on his sleve and how does she repay him, goes and becomes the biggest bitch in the world, no one deserves that at all. she could of easily replied and said like not my type really nice guy whatever and then if he kept at her well yeah alls fair and that jazz, but just completely uncalled for!

In fairness, she did just send it to her sister. I think the sis is more to blame. Plus, I don't think anyone reckons an email they send is going to end up all over the world.

takola

Those letters are freaky Blitz!!! :eek: How well did this guy know her? Seems like a creep!

I think, of course it was unfair! She should have ignored it or replied saying thanks but whatever! Seems like he's got quite a fan club out of it though!

Ruu_Old

Dudess wrote:

Ok, this is actually fairly old news (a month or six weeks or so) but I only found out about it in the last couple of days.
Basically, this guy sent a really overblown, cringey email to a girl he had only met once (see link below). She proceeded to forward it on to her sister, who then forwarded it on to her friends and, sure enough, the snowball effect kicked in and it has now been sent all over the world.
The guy has been severely severely humiliated (the fact that his phone number was on the email hardly helped). So, what do you guys think:
Was she a heartless bitch for sending it to her sister, or was he asking for it by sending such a ridiculously OTT email, or what? Can't make up my own mind.

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=17795&in_page_id=2

How did my love letter get online, Dudess?:p

Very creepy letters, Blitz *shudder*

Fanny Cradock

takola wrote:

Seems like he's got quite a fan club out of it though!

it just goes to show that one woman's ted bundy is another woman's george clooney (or the like).

Lamia

It's a sweet to thing to write, albeit a little creepy to the person on the receiving end of it having only met him once I suppose. Poor guy.

BlitzKrieg

takola wrote:

Those letters are freaky Blitz!!! :eek: How well did this guy know her? Seems like a creep!

Lets see, He was the (now ex) best friend of her boyfriend who were both my old housemates when this all happened (oh what a surprise they are not now). Soo she knew him quite well. The whole thing came to ahead when he stayed at her workplace for 4 hours waiting for her.

takola

BlitzKrieg wrote:

Lets see, He was the (now ex) best friend of her boyfriend who were both my old housemates when this all happened (oh what a surprise they are not now). Soo she knew him quite well. The whole thing came to ahead when he stayed at her workplace for 4 hours waiting for her.

So what did she do? Sounds like a drama queen tbh!

Caco

Lux16 wrote:

It's a sweet to thing to write, albeit a little creepy to the person on the receiving end of it having only met him once I suppose. Poor guy.

Exactly!!! Perhaps a letter of that type would be more appropriate after a few months of going out with a person!

Im sure the girl who recieved it had no intention of it ending up all over the world, she probably just wanted to have a bit of a laugh with her friend/sister!

Trinity

Shame on her - or her sister actually.

reminds me of this one - very long and not sure if its believable but funny none the less!!

http://prdifferently.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/07/how_not_to_act_.html

BlitzKrieg

So what did she do? Sounds like a drama queen tbh!

its sort of complicated. Let me try and list it down.

-The e-mailer to talk to her via msn messenger.
-He also passed on anything that happens in the house to her.
-For example he would ask the boyfriend really nasty questions such as, 'If you had to choose between our friendship or your girlfriend who would you choose?' seeing as they were best friends at the time and that the girlfriend wasnt there, he said friendship.
-This put a heavy strain on their relationship.
-Then my party came around (and you can see the first email refers to that.) and essentially the e-mailer scared the sh*t out of said girl.
-She refused to come around ever again.
-He went to her workplace (a cinema) bought a ticket to a film, but never went in, then bought a ticket for another film but again didnt go in and waited around in the lobby drinking and watching her etc. When she finished up for the night he started talking to her and then touched her.
-She broke it off with boyfriend and refused to talk to any of us again for the next 2-3 months.

-She started talking to me again. And her ex-boyfriend to a lesser extent, but she refuses to be anywhere near the e-mailer.

-And then the e-mailer did the whole thing again with the next girlfriend of his friend. But she was made of sterner stuff and told him if he came anywhere near her she would remove his testicles with a spoon. (I like her she's funny.)

sadly i dont have the email he sent her. I could try and get it though.

-meanwhile i sat at the sideline of all this and ate popcorn.

Dudess

Trinity1 wrote:

Shame on her - or her sister actually.

reminds me of this one - very long and not sure if its believable but funny none the less!!

http://prdifferently.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/07/how_not_to_act_.html

Fantastic! What a fruitcake!

smk135

jules80 wrote:

oh come on that is really unfair, the guy wore his heart on his sleve and how does she repay him, goes and becomes the biggest bitch in the world, no one deserves that at all. she could of easily replied and said like not my type really nice guy whatever and then if he kept at her well yeah alls fair and that jazz, but just completely uncalled for!

i completly agree, i think she is an absolute bitch, no matter how weird his email was, she shouldve stopped for a second and thought about the consequences for him.
well i believe what goes around comes around so i hope it comes back round on her nasty.

by the way this opinion is not coming from a guy/bitter woman hater.

Dudess

Pigman II wrote:

in other words "when he's cracking one off."

Hee hee! Gross, but probably so true!

Caco

Trinity1 wrote:

Shame on her - or her sister actually.

reminds me of this one - very long and not sure if its believable but funny none the less!!

http://prdifferently.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/07/how_not_to_act_.html

What a freak!!!! I think she should have known from this line in his profile:

"People watching" can be an easily enjoyable activity for me."

It kinda gives the wrong idea!!!:D

Mexicola

Feck sake, that email isnt that bad. Now maybe the wording was over the top, but its the message he is trying to convey is harmless. All I get from that email is that he met a girl at a party, her smile blew him away and he'd like to meet her again. So what. I dont see any crazy talk of stalking and such...

Fair play to the lad. Wouldnt be my approach but when some describes themselves as a 'philosopher and poet' you are bound to get some mad literary stuff going on. Maybe he was just being poetic. I reckon the sister is a right old bítch :rolleyes: If only we could get her email address...

I'll just stick with Fred's chat up line from the Flintstones movie...
"Your eyes are like ..... two big eyes..."

Dragan

Dudess wrote:

So, what do you guys think:
Was she a heartless bitch for sending it to her sister, or was he asking for it by sending such a ridiculously OTT email, or what? Can't make up my own mind.

People want Romance, and will happily sit and dream of love at first site, and yet when some dude has the ****ing nuts to act on his feelings he gets a worldwide slagging for it.

**** that man. I respect the dude, he went with his heart and has nothing to feel bad about.

BoozyBabe

Yea, I'd be a little bit freaked if he sent that email to me, but fair fcuks to him for having the balls to send it. (or else he's in cloud cookoo land)

Anyway, whereas it doesn't look good for the girl that forwarded it now, I really don't think that when she sent it to her sis to say 'look at this weirdo', that she thought it would be sent around the world & become public, & therefore totally humiliating the poor guy.

petes

Jesus, why didn't he just ask for her phone number?

Vegeta

She is a compleye and utter C.U.N.T

You can bet your ass if he looked like Brad Pitt or (insert example of male sex symbol here) she would have been all over his knob like a nasty sexually transmitted infection.

Fair play to the guy.

stovelid

Seconded.

Millions of people will read the mail and have a laugh at the poor guy but at least they will also know what a cruel cnut she is.

Vegeta wrote:

She is a compleye and utter C.U.N.T

You can bet your ass if he looked like Brad Pitt or (insert example of male sex symbol here) she would have been all over his knob like a nasty sexually transmitted infection.

Fair play to the guy.

Setun

Mexicola wrote:

I'll just stick with Fred's chat up line from the Flintstones movie...
"Your eyes are like ..... two big eyes..."

"You have the most... eyes I've ever seen"

Ah the sweet irony in the email, she was pretty candid about the whole thing.

P.S Dudess, I saw you at a party last weekend. You have the most beautiful smile.

Black Swan

The Internet is not secure. Always keep that in mind. There are such things as keyloggers that record your every keystroke, packet sniffers to intercept your WiFi transmitted messages, pfishing programmes to capture your credit card and bank account numbers, and a host of other malware programmes to snoop on your communications. We are not just talking about government snoops like the Bush administration (secretly snooping on millions of Americans as reported in recent news), but also criminal, nosey, or bored programmers/hackers/crackers who spend a lot of time developing and using snoop programmes. Most if not all of your trusted anti-malware programmes run far behind the lastest malware software developments by these snoops, so no one can guarantee your communications are absolutely secure. In addition to your laptop/desktop, your mobile phone is not secure either for voice, text, or photo. Welcome to our "Brave New World.":rolleyes:

petes

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

The Internet is not secure. Always keep that in mind. There are such things as keyloggers that record your every keystroke, packet sniffers to intercept your WiFi transmitted messages, pfishing programmes to capture your credit card and bank account numbers, and a host of other malware programmes to snoop on your communications. We are not just talking about government snoops like the Bush administration (secretly snooping on millions of Americans as reported in recent news), but also criminal, nosey, or bored programmers/hackers/crackers who spend a lot of time developing and using snoop programmes. Most if not all of your trusted anti-malware programmes run far behind the lastest malware software developments by these snoops, so no one can guarantee your communications are absolutely secure. In addition to your laptop/desktop, your mobile phone is not secure either for voice, text, or photo. Welcome to our "Brave New World.":rolleyes:

Eh?

Terry

she's talking americanese again.

these things don't happen in Ireland. if they do, then nobody really cares.

Mexicola

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

The Internet is not secure. Always keep that in mind. There are such things as keyloggers that record your every keystroke, packet sniffers to intercept your WiFi transmitted messages, pfishing programmes to capture your credit card and bank account numbers, and a host of other malware programmes to snoop on your communications. We are not just talking about government snoops like the Bush administration (secretly snooping on millions of Americans as reported in recent news), but also criminal, nosey, or bored programmers/hackers/crackers who spend a lot of time developing and using snoop programmes. Most if not all of your trusted anti-malware programmes run far behind the lastest malware software developments by these snoops, so no one can guarantee your communications are absolutely secure. In addition to your laptop/desktop, your mobile phone is not secure either for voice, text, or photo. Welcome to our "Brave New World.":rolleyes:

Jasus you sound like a perfect match for the guy we are talking about with your literary wanderings!

DilbertPartII

could w****g her neck should i see her!:mad: oh..people! different sorts we really have. some could give you a blow right down at your nose..:(

LadyJ

I had a guy like this "Joe" come on to me before,however,it was far more intense than that email seemed to be. Far more intense.

Now,I'm not an evil person but I did share my story with many people as it really was so bizarre and hilarious. I feel sorry for guys who are as clueless as that tbh,but maybe when they hear the whole thing back from a friend or a random stranger,they'll see the error of their ways and tone it the fúck down!

Dudess

Daddio wrote:

Dudess, I saw you at a party last weekend. You have the most beautiful smile.

I can just hear you saying those words in a "jazz" voice - like the guy in The Fast Show. "Nice..."