Ghost Vs, Spirits - What Are They, Explained

BigSkippy

Actually there are two types of afterlife enities. A Ghost and A Spirit.

A Spirit is a being that has passed on and has accepted the fact that the body is no longer needed, so they move on to the next phase and goto the light of happiness and eternety.

A Ghost is a being that has not eccepted the fact that the body has passed on and refuses to move on, therefore it is neither in this world or has entered the process of happiness and eternity. It is in a state of limbo as best put into normal words.

This is why when a person sees something that is desturbing, it is because the ghost is not aware that he/she is dead and is kinda like roaming confused in the last area they can remember, where they died. Most are not out to harm anyone they just are not concerned for your mental well being.

Where a Spirit is well aware of it's passing and will not allow you to see it, because he/she is concerned for your mental well being and wants you to be comforted and not frightened. This is why they give you feelings of elation or warmth in it presents. This is just naming a few things to make the example short and give you the basic idea.

In most cases, when a person commits suicide, right after they have done so they changed their mind and can not accept the fact that it is to late. They are desparatly tring to seek a why back through showing themselves visually to humans.

Very rarely has anyone been hurt by any entities. That is mostly in the movies, designed to frighten us. That is why you paid money to see the movie in the first place. We all have a Guardian Angle looking after us weather we realize it or not. They are sent by God to protect us, and Good seeks out the strong, while Bad exploits the weak. Therfore Good easily overpowers Evil!

I hope that explaines a few things.

Pink Bunny

Those are some very well thought out and interesting ideas. It's always interesting to read other people's views on this topic.

I do wonder where you got the idea that each of us have our own personal guardian angel though? Is that something you were taught in your church? I know the Old Testament speaks of "guardian angels" but those are meant to watch over nations, not individuals.

6th

BigSkippy wrote:

Actually there are two types of afterlife enities.

I hope that explaines a few things.

Nice to hear your ideas, of course, they are your opinion and no more or less valid than anyone elses.

Seeing as you have this so clear in your head can I just ask what your opinion is on "Ghosts" that behave in a particular way. Ghosts that appear to carry out the exact same action at a particular time, like for instance a ghost or a woman who throws herself to her death and is seen at the same time of year for a period of time. Some would call these echoes, recordings, etc. They appear to be souless imprints in time and do not fir into your ideas from what i can see.

Zillah

You state these things as fact, where they are actually just an opinion. Not the done thing really

Are you familiar with the stone tape theory?

kshiel

It is always good to here other peoples opinions or theory on the subjects.

Just woundered how it could be explained or understood when people actually see ghost or spirits which ever term used that are not confused or woundering around waiting for help but infact visting a person to relate certain messages.

I am sure some people who have committed suicide are regrettful etc etc but I dont believe they are woundering around wanting to get back. I know of one spirit who did committe suicide who says sorry a lot to the family but is not stuck here or there, but as a lot of tales go in spirit visitation is around in time of need or worry.

6th

I dont buy into the whole trapped soul idea myself but stone tape theory could be seen as a type of trapped ...ness. (not a real word i know).

IrishAirCorps

BigSkippy wrote:

We all have a Guardian Angle looking after us weather we realize it or not.

Thats total BS if that were true people would not hurt themselves or others or get STD's or whatever! the world is fcuked up and nobody is watching nobody.

kshiel

IrishAirCorps wrote:

Thats total BS if that were true people would not hurt themselves or others or get STD's or whatever! the world is fcuked up and nobody is watching nobody.

People always have free will.

BigSkippy

Sylvia Browne is the worlds most proven psychic by the American Govermental agengies. She has help solve hundreds of murders with her visions and feelings at no cost to them.

This was taken out of one of her books. Don't question me,but question her.

Although some of my experieces that I have on a daily basis prove that she is correct. Trust me, I'll be on this forum long enough you'll start to see things that are really weird. Like you swear that you will allways be thinking the same thing but did not write it. Then I'll write that thought the next day.

I really don't care what anyone believes. If you had to deal with the crap that I deal with you would of killed yourself by now. It is so much bullcrap to have to deal with that it is destroying my life.

Say nothing and just experience it yourself!

Zillah

*groans*

The term "most proven" is redundant, something is either proven or it isn't, and she isn't.

http://www.skepticreport.com/psychics/sylviabrowne.htm

Dark entities have turned their backs on God. All they do is wreck havoc among the good people on the light side. They can be people like Hitler, Charles Manson or Ted Bundy. Or they can be your parents, children, politicans or movie stars. Anyone can deliberately turn to the dark side.

When these people die, they go through the "Left Door" and are born yet again to a life of misery and evil. This goes on and on and on, until they are rescued by people from the Light Side.

Dark Side People are not interested in their progress toward spiritual perfection. They are the ones who do not seek out Browne for salvation. Damnation is metered out by Browne only - if you don't follow her, you are of the Dark Side.

And my favourite:

Holocaust victims chose to be gassed

One of her most outrageous claims is that Holocaust victims have chosen their destiny - they are not victims, nobody should pity them. According to Browne, before we are reborn, we write a "chart" in which we determine how we will live our upcoming life. We have 44 different ways of living it, no more, no less. Apparently, millions of Jews decided to sacrifice themselves in order to make humanity aware of evil - as if we didn't know evil before.

This one is also fun:

http://www.skepticreport.com/psychics/sylvia2100.htm

She has of course not taken Randi's challenge:

http://www.randi.org/sylvia/index.shtml

You said:

She has help solve hundreds of murders with her visions and feelings at no cost to them.

Whereas Wikipedia says:

Browne claims to have provided information to police departments and the FBI, however police officers and family members say that in all 35 cases she worked on she played no useful role.

The link backing it up is here:

http://skepdic.com/psychdet.html

Finally, here's a well written essay on her:

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/browne.html

I really don't care what anyone believes. If you had to deal with the crap that I deal with you would of killed yourself by now. It is so much bullcrap to have to deal with that it is destroying my life.

*groans again*

Trust me, I'll be on this forum long enough you'll start to see things that are really weird. Like you swear that you will allways be thinking the same thing but did not write it. Then I'll write that thought the next day.

We'll see. Feel free to contact Stevenmu and take part in our Remote Viewing experiment.

Sangre

BigSkippy wrote:

We all have a Guardian Angle looking after us weather we realize it or not. They are sent by God to protect us, and Good seeks out the strong, while Bad exploits the weak. Therfore Good easily overpowers Evil!

I hope that explaines a few things.

Why did my guardian angel let me get cancer?

Zillah

Sangre wrote:

Why did my guardian angel let me get cancer?

The berevity aside, he does raise an interesting point. If we have guardian angels looking after us, in what way do they do so? What criteria to they use to decide to interfere or not? In what way to they interfere?

Stoner

this all sounds like a faith thing to me, however BigSkippy never said that these guardian angels were good at their job or not, as for sickness etc these things are sorted out by faith too for many people, seems to me that faith can answer anything you want it to, i guess that defines the word

Anyway who asked the question in the first place?

stevenmu

IrishAirCorps wrote:

Thats total BS if that were true people would not hurt themselves or others or get STD's or whatever! the world is fcuked up and nobody is watching nobody.

IAC, it's ok to question the things people say, but do so in a way which is respectfull to their beliefs. Doing this will encourage people to explain their ideas better, allowing us to gain a better understanding of the subject and in turn ask better questions. Not doing so just encourages people to clam up and/or leave the forum and benefits no one. Please read the forum charter


My understanding of guardian angels is that they are present more for moral support and guidance, not to actively interfere with the physical world. Many people who believe in guardian angels also seem to believe in reincarnation in some form, and that we come here to the physical world to learn and to gain experiences. From that perspective, cancer, STDs, car crashes etc are experiences which can be learned from, not something to be prevented from on high.

BigSkippy

Wow! I'm really convince that Sylvia Browne is a faud looking at that site you posted. ;P

As far as most proven, that means that she is respected amoung the U.S. Govermental Agencies for helping them out at no cost in many ocasions.

I live in the same city as she does and when I wanted to talk to her they said i would have to wait for one of her $1,000 group meetings. That turned me off on her. I have some really weird things happen to me and I wanted to see what she thought about it. Not make her ritch from some two hour BS meeting that I wount be able to talk to her on a one on one basis.

My wife passed away and she is making my life a big pain. It has gotten to the point where she is not hidding the fact that she doesn't want me being with another woman, even though she is gone and I have a right to move on.

She was a pain alive and know she is a bigger pain dead. I just wanted to know how to get rid of this problem, not go broke in the process.

I know it sounds so crazy, even to me it does, but I have experienced some things that would make anyone a beliver.

Zillah

Would you care to share them rather than oh-so-coyly allude to them? :rolleyes: And I didn't link to a website, I linked to and quoted from five websites...

As far as most proven, that means that she is respected amoung the U.S. Govermental Agencies for helping them out at no cost in many ocasions.

As I stated earlier:

Browne claims to have provided information to police departments and the FBI, however police officers and family members say that in all 35 cases she worked on she played no useful role.