Aces Cash hand

spectre

Tribecca NLHE 0.50/1. Villain has just recently sat down with 100. I have 150.

I make it 3 UTG with Aces. Villain in MP raises to 9. All fold to me. I call.

Flop comes:

J 4 3 rainbow(19)

I bet 16, villain thinks for three seconds and calls.

Turn is an Ace, I check, villain checks.

River is a blank, I bet 25. Villain calls.


Comments on play on all streets please.

fuzzbox

If you call the preflop reraise, then I much prefer a flop check/raise.

ianmc38

fuzzbox wrote:

If you call the preflop reraise, then I much prefer a flop check/raise.

Why?

Won't he fold if he's making a continuation bet with AK or with a smaller pocket pair like tens?

I prefer betting all 3 streets. The turn check is ok though, cos it makes it look like you dont like the ace.

eggie

fuzzbox wrote:

If you call the preflop reraise, then I much prefer a flop check/raise.

I'd do this also, if he calls a flop check raise he could very well bet after you check the ace on the turn (few extra quid from him).

imalegend

at 50/1 i would have made it 22 pre flop ...and bet the flop checked the turn and bet 60 per cent of the pot on the river...

Poker Anto

imalegend wrote:

at 50/1 i would have made it 22 pre flop ...and bet the flop checked the turn and bet 60 per cent of the pot on the river...

All-in preflop. Don't be afraid to put your chips in. Thats how you play poker.

Bandana boy

spectre wrote:

Tribecca NLHE 0.50/1. Villain has just recently sat down with 100. I have 150.

I make it 3 UTG with Aces. Villain in MP raises to 9. All fold to me. I call.

in .5-1 i reraise pre every time as AK KK QQ will push here a lot in fact at .5-1 and 1-2 i have gotten pushs from 99-KK and A k/q/j

fuzzbox

ianmc38 wrote:

Why?

Won't he fold if he's making a continuation bet with AK or with a smaller pocket pair like tens?

I prefer betting all 3 streets. The turn check is ok though, cos it makes it look like you dont like the ace.

If he has AK or TT, then he most likely folds to a flop bet in any case - so we make zero from him.

If we check, then he can bet AK/TT and we can then raise, thus maximising returns from KK/QQ.

ianmc38

fuzzbox wrote:

If he has AK or TT, then he most likely folds to a flop bet in any case - so we make zero from him.

If we check, then he can bet AK/TT and we can then raise, thus maximising returns from KK/QQ.

Ta

spectre

Thanks for the replies.

I think at 0.5/1 level, 3-betting preflop is good, most of these players can't fold JJ+ preflop regardless of the action.

After flat calling the reraise preflop, I like Fuzz's line on the flop. After all, he is likely to have KK or QQ here and most opponents are not laying this down to the check raise. His hand was mucked after showdown so didn't get to see it, most likely KK I guess.

califano

Im guessing you posted this hand because you feel you might not have got as much as you could out of it.
I think you should have bet the turn to add to your returns!. You know he doesnt have an ace and he isnt going to try to represent it when you check it.
You say you think he had kK. Well if he called your $25 river bet with an ace on the board he was likely to call your turn bet too. He was in check calling mode from the get go so checking the turn changes the precidence. If you think he has KK or a pair he will only represent the Ace if he has no hand so far so if you think he has KK you have to bet the turn to test his resolve.

pok3rplaya

I hate the 3bet pf line unless you see 40/5 stats on the villan even then 3bet pf is actually the worst line IMO.

In order from best to worst preflop lines:
1) call his raise
2) push
3) 3bet

Post flop use either bet, bet, bet or c/r flop bet turn lines. c/r flop being the favourite.

fuzzbox

rounders123 wrote:

Im guessing you posted this hand because you feel you might not have got as much as you could out of it.
I think you should have bet the turn to add to your returns!. You know he doesnt have an ace and he isnt going to try to represent it when you check it.
You say you think he had kK. Well if he called your $25 river bet with an ace on the board he was likely to call your turn bet too. He was in check calling mode from the get go so checking the turn changes the precidence. If you think he has KK or a pair he will only represent the Ace if he has no hand so far so if you think he has KK you have to bet the turn to test his resolve.

You cant buy dinner with the results of a test of his resolve.

Why on earth do you have to test his resolve? What does that even mean?

califano

fuzzbox wrote:

You cant buy dinner with the results of a test of his resolve.

Why on earth do you have to test his resolve? What does that even mean?

He resolved to call a bet on the river despite an overcard to his likely pair. So what im saying is if he called this bet on the river he's likely to also have called a bet on the turn.
I think he should have bet the turn.

fuzzbox

rounders123 wrote:

He resolved to call a bet on the river despite an overcard to his likely pair. So what im saying is if he called this bet on the river he's likely to also have called a bet on the turn.
I think he should have bet the turn.

But why do you need to *test* his resolve? You arent bluffing, you want him to call?

If you bet the turn, he might fold. Checking the turn, might have gotten him to call the river.

califano

fuzzbox wrote:

But why do you need to *test* his resolve? You arent bluffing, you want him to call?

I never said i was bluffing. This is why i bet the turn. At this Stage if i feel a player has a hand i should bet to try to extract a call.

fuzzbox wrote:

If you bet the turn, he might fold. Checking the turn, might have gotten him to call the river.

True thats risk versus reward. But im getting paid a lot more if he calls the turn and river and what tells me he will is that he called a PF raise and $16 on the flop.