Which one

Budo.Judo.Kev

Which of the following do you think make the best combination for "Self-Defense"

Judo
Brazilian Jiujitsu (BJJ)
Greco Roman Wrestling (Greco)
Boxing
Muay Thai
Full Contact Karate (Karate)

Baggio...

Can we get Close Quarters Combat in there too?

Budo.Judo.Kev

Sorry I can't edit the poll!

Well start another thread then, it's obvious we don't have enough at the moment.

Budo.Judo.Kev

Patience. There is another thread to come.

Budo.Judo.Kev

**** i made it a private poll, colm can you chnage it to public?

Millionaire

I voted Muay Thai + Greco.

Muay Thai (assuming boxing skills are well trained) as it got all the strikes, moving into strikes in clinch, and the greco (which I know little about) seems like the next logical sequence to dump the attacker on the ground.

In SD you DO NOT want to be on the ground, so if you fail to KO him, you can deposit attacker, hard on ground, remain standing, and then run!

I think I would pick Greco over Judo, and please give me feedback on this, if I am incorrect...

I would assume if your learning Greco, you getting into the training quicker, while judo might have a bit more TMA angle to it, which would sort of get on my nerves a little. I would rather have some one show me a few basic techniques, learn them well, then spar them live. and I am guess Greco would allow me to do the quicker??????

Baggio...

Budo.Judo.Kev wrote:

**** i made it a private poll, colm can you chnage it to public?

Actually RBSD would be a better term, if we can swing it.

Cheers,

R.

Colm_OReilly

I added RBSD. There was no option for public or private, but then again there was no mention of it that I could see.

Millionaire

I would of picked RBSD as my vote, only it was added late...

However to me RBSD = proper striking training as in muay thai, boxing, FC kickboxing (take your pick, mines its MT), Combatives Techniques, clinch, and ground ability. with basics of pre fight stuff, plenty of real life drills, simulating how real attacks kick off, (all FC of course) and then a lashing of sparring too! (I would include drills against common weapons too, at a later stage of training).

dlofnep

BJJ & boxing.. If I'm a boxer, I don't need to go to the ground - So why bother throwing? But should I find myself on the ground, I'll have the BJJ to make sure I survive.

paddyc

nah man

BJJ & boxing

i'll take thai over boxing any day.... show me a good boxer and i show you a man with 2 very sore legs

uberpixie

dlofnep wrote:

BJJ & boxing.. If I'm a boxer, I don't need to go to the ground - So why bother throwing? But should I find myself on the ground, I'll have the BJJ to make sure I survive.

Just to be all argunmentative and pissy due to another boring day at work....:D

You can always make the argument for judo instead of BJJ.

Judo gives you clinch which fits in nicely with boxing for stand up .i.e. dirty boxing.

With judo clinch you can prevent yourself ending up on the ground.

And if you do end up on the ground, you do have enough of a ground game to get back up off it

columok

Yeah Judo is kinda like GR wrestling. Ties nicely into striking and is upright unlike Freestyle. With GR you also have enough base and anti-pinning ability to make life on the ground tolerable. Besides this is a "Self Defence" scenario so being able to not get gogo-plata-ed isn't that important.

droc

Why Greco over Freestyle?FS includes leg attacks but is not limited to them, all of the techniques in Greco are also used in FS.

DROC

Millionaire

so which grappling systems would be easiest to learn... i.e. for me to learn to get basic solid skills???

I won't be challening any Gracies anytime soon! LOL!!!

Like judo... has that not got TMA aspcts, and kata invloved? as in having to learn unnecessary stuff as its part of the "art"???? ideas please???

columok

Well true Freestyle has a greater range of techniques but in Greco the upperbody clinch is exclusively trained and the whole training methodology with very upright stances and body positions ties much better into boxing or thai.

Also Greco is less attribute dependant as a shoot being a major part of the FS repertoire relies (to some extent) on you being faster than your opponent. Also if you're hit in the face and then grabbed your in a more Greco situation than a FS one as you're exclusively used to being tussled. Now a good MMA school will also teach you to sprawl giving you some of the "anti rugger player" defensive qualities of FS.

Poifect!!!

takeda shingen

no mention of arnis/kali/escrima or chinese styles or classical jujutsu?

SorGan

takeda shingen]no mention of arnis/kali/escrima

or chinese styles or classical jujutsu?

Baggio...

Colm_OReilly wrote:

I added RBSD. There was no option for public or private, but then again there was no mention of it that I could see.

Cheers Colm.


My choice was RBSD (suprise suprise). But I would add boxing and Muay Thai if possible.

Cheers,

R.