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Cash game hand--played right or wrong?

  • 18-08-2006 1:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭


    Live cash game at Maccau festival(1-2).Only at the table 10 mins when this happens. I get A-A UTG.Now I know four of the players at the table,the rest I know nothing about. I have €250,most of the table bar SB cover me. I limp,UTG +1(solid player) pots it to €10, loose cannon in UTG+2 calls, MP player(good player well known to me)makes it €36 to go,folded to the SB who goes all-in for 34, BB folds. Now I know if I flat call here im pricing in utg+1 and utg+2 and my aces are gonna have to play a 5 man pot which is too dangerous so I repot it for €160. All fold and MHIG against SB. Mp player folded QQ to my repot(and the flop brought an ace and a queen.):eek:
    Driving home I was trying to figure out what way to play the hand to make the most off-it, and I figure if I had reraised to 80 I would have priced utg+1 and utg+2 out but would probably have priced mp in. Is this thinking results orientated.Im pretty new to cash games and I was just wondering how the boardsters cash game players would have played it.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    Your thinking is result oriented. with that amount of action happening on the table you could not hide the strength of your hand no matter what kind of raise you put in. whether you pot it there or raise it to 80 you are pretty much announcing what you have .the difference is that with a less raise you may get others calling you as well knowing exactly what you have thinking its worth it to gamble and that’s not what you want.at least with a big raise your charging them the max you can for a call.
    The option of flat calling the raise as you pointed out your self is suicide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Limp reraising is a good way to end a pot early


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    I think you played it fine...you certainly dont want to play your aces against 4 or 5 players.

    Nice Job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    Limp reraising is a good way to end a pot early
    are you suggesting a flat call here or just pointing out that limping wiht AA is not good seen as a reraise will show alot of streanght hence ending the hand early?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    Just play the hard normally, limp re raising is retarded


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Playing Cash in the Macau is a sin i have committed more than once
    you have to limp re-raise your aces in ep as it plays QQ would have re-raised you but you really do not want to be playing a 7 bills raise with 8 callers (I have seen it happen many a time ) what do you do on a non ace board ?

    the re-rasie has to be as big as you can make it here as you have telegraphed your hand and it is obvious what you have left is going in on the flop
    Making it 80 gives mp dude a call of 46 to see 3 cards 100% guaranteed that 170 is coming after it on flop which is to good odds to be giving this gent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Is winning the pot via a limp reraise better or worse than raising to 7 and getting 8 callers who see the flop for the value?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    You really should have just open-raised. Limp-re-raising with AA sucks almost all the time. That was your biggest mistake. If you raised to 7, UTG may just call, MP will re-pop it, then the shorty will still get it in, then when you re-pot it here the chances of him calling have surely increased as he may think you would try and isolate with a wider range. Anyway, to sum up, open-raising = good; limp-re-raising = bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Is winning the pot via a limp reraise better or worse than raising to 7 and getting 8 callers who see the flop for the value?

    Winning a pot via a limp-re-raise is always worse cos you never get a chance to play for stacks which is what you want, especially with AA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ollyk1


    Should have more money on the table and raise blind as standard ;) .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    valor wrote:
    Just play the hard normally, limp re raising is retarded
    now now, no need for insults. it is only retarted if AA is the only hand you do it with. its fine if you do it with a wider range especially in a pot limit game it can help to increase pots pre-flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    thats true actually limp re raising is a good play.

    sorry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Winning a pot via a limp-re-raise is always worse cos you never get a chance to play for stacks which is what you want, especially with AA.

    I disagree entirely.

    I have limp/reraised in live cash games a few times. Sometimes I have had AA, and sometimes something like AK.

    I have gotten two callers of the LRR each time, and the results were as follows:

    1. I LRR AK, flop a K, move in both fold
    2. I LRR AK, flop Qxx, move in ... get called by KJo !!!
    3. I LRR AA, flop rags, move in ... get called by QQ

    I also find that these games are really really passive preflop, and that hardly anybody reraises. So I would make it 7, and get 8 callers, and play for set value :(.


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