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easy fold/call?

  • 18-08-2006 6:59am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭


    2/4 NL Prima

    History:
    Villain is ok. He has been active preflop and on the flop, but goes away with considerable ease. He has been active enough with my button raises. (he usually min raises my button steals which annoys the **** out of me... and then bets half the pot on the flop. He got me the first time with this move but I have taken him off it the last 2 times.)

    I have 460, villain covers me
    1 limper.
    I make it 14 in cutoff with AKo.
    Villain calls in SB (i think - he was out of position anyway, SB or BB)
    Limper calls.

    Flop (44) Ac8h4c
    Villain bets 20
    Limper folds
    I raise to 70
    Villain calls after some thought.

    Turn (184) 5 of Hearts
    Villain bets 80
    I call

    River (344) 5 of Diamonds
    Villain pushes
    I have 290 odd remaining???


    edit: should i have made the decision for my stack on the turn?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    Though spot here Nail but unless villain is a donkey I think you’re often beat here.
    Do you know if he plays his flush draws this way as in play them aggressively and lead with them OOP or does he check call with them.
    Its very hard to imagine taking this line with flush draw unless his supper hyper aggro.
    He leads the flop indicating strength. That’s fine as you said he often does this but goes away when you raise him. you raise him here and he still calls and then leads the turn .scary stuff.i really cant see him do this with out at least two pair. the only thing is if he had A4 then his two pair got counterfeited on the river by the second 5 but I think getting slightly better 2:1 is not enough to make it a call hoping exactly for that.
    I think this is a fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    I haven't seen him play his draws aggresively... (yet!) He gets very involved, represents scare cards a lot, over-defends his blinds a lot so I think he is well capable of doing this with a draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    ocallagh wrote:
    I haven't seen him play his draws aggresively... (yet!) He gets very involved, represents scare cards a lot, over-defends his blinds a lot so I think he is well capable of doing this with a draw.
    Again Nial this dosent really look like a draw .he has just shown too much strength and with out a read on him to indicate that he over rates AQ,AJ in this spot I would have to lean toward a fold. I would often let this go on the turn when I see him leading there unless I had something on him to suggest his an over aggro donkey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    Gholimoli wrote:
    Again Nial this dosent really look like a draw .he has just shown too much strength and with out a read on him to indicate that he over rates AQ,AJ in this spot I would have to lean toward a fold. I would often let this go on the turn when I see him leading there unless I had something on him to suggest his an over aggro donkey.

    yep - it's my play on the turn which interests me more.. i think i've discovered a leak in my game


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    His line looks awfully like a set. I think I could fold here.


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