Boards swearword filter...

Wertz · 17-08-2006 7:29pm #1

Is it time to get rid?
I mean, it's so easy to get round and regularly is without any consequences....so what's the real point in having it?

I know that boards likes to be seen as a family friendly environment and that swearing is just a lazy and crass way of expressing yourself, but in modern Ireland (and further afield) bad language appears to be so much more the norm both in the media, on the net and IRL.
A rightly placed curse can emphasise a point so much more than soemthing non-vulgar....but over use just makes the utterer look stupid, so it's a fine balance.

Só dó wé áll kéép áccéntíng óúr vówéls?
Or is ****ing time to get with the ****ing program instead of being ****s about it?
Vote early, vote often!

Perhaps this belongs in feedback, but AH is where most of the pseudo-swearing gets done, so I put it here. Move at will

Ruu_Old · 17-08-2006 7:31pm

Moved. There are some heated debates sometimes and I would rather see a bunch of asteriks than some fool swearing fúck after ever word.

Sarky · 17-08-2006 7:40pm

If anything, I think it should be stricter. If you can't be shocking/rude/insulting without resorting to the usual clichés, you're just not trying.

scojones · 17-08-2006 7:49pm

What fucking filter?

Wertz · 17-08-2006 7:51pm

Begone with your wizardry!

Oh and fastest thread move ever?
Ruu, put down the mouse and step away from the monitor.

Jonny Arson · 17-08-2006 7:52pm

I wish the fucking cunts would get rid of this stupid fucking filter!

Karoma · 17-08-2006 7:57pm

How witty and unexpected.

Agreed with Sarky: a ban and filtering on swearing should encourage more creative retorts.
However, OP's point in view: It's more that the filter is weak at stopping it - so either leave it in tact doing a weak job, remove it altogether[suggested by OP*], or start enforcing the ban on swearing.

* I'm guessing that, as weak as it is, the filter covers ass when it comes to the AUP / legal matters?

kaimera · 17-08-2006 7:59pm

hmm..testing the fucking filter.

Piece of shit really :v:

O_o

mike65 · 17-08-2006 8:00pm

I like the filter except for when you say snigger and get ********

edit > oh they changed it!

Mike.

Wertz · 17-08-2006 8:32pm

mike65 wrote:

I like the filter except for when you say snigger and get ********

edit > oh they changed it!

Mike.

haha...I used get that on US forums all the damn time, so I started to use snicker instead.

There's sometimes I'll type out a profanity only to have it ****ed out, then there's times I'll sp*ll it like so....I never really use the fcuk method or the accented vowels.
As for usage in arguments? What difference does that really make? Personal abuse is personal abuse and is bannable without the swearing issue ever being taken into it.

BTW what legal matters would relate to swear word usage on here? If TodayFM can play uncut Lilly Allen, etc, at all hours of the day, then what's the problem on the big bad WWW?

hullaballoo · 17-08-2006 8:52pm

Wertz wrote:

BTW what legal matters would relate to swear word usage on here? If TodayFM can play uncut Lilly Allen, etc, at all hours of the day, then what's the problem on the big bad WWW?

******.

Mimikyu · 17-08-2006 9:28pm

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Ruu_Old · 17-08-2006 9:33pm

Wertz wrote:

Begone with your wizardry!

Oh and fastest thread move ever?
Ruu, put down the mouse and step away from the monitor.

*waves smoke away from mouse*

grimloch · 17-08-2006 9:36pm

Solitaryman666 wrote:

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Just because people can get around the filter doesn't mean that it should be removed entirely. To the best of my understanding there are ways to prevent people from getting around the filter, what they are I don't know.

Stark · 17-08-2006 10:01pm

But but, a minor might be taking a break from looking at women's breasts on the intraweb and stumble upon a thread only to be horribly scarred by the word fuck. Is that what you want on your conscience? Is it?

Then again, if you need to swear in order to say what you want to say, then you're probably being lazy. On the other hand, every now and again, there's nothing like a good fuck.

Asok · 17-08-2006 10:05pm

Beef Curtains!

The Bollox · 17-08-2006 10:11pm

I say keep the filter, and improve the fucking thing! it's not because I'm thinking of the children, fuck them! it's just because if you get rid of it people will be swearing left, right and centre and make a mockery of Boards.

Mossy Monk · 18-08-2006 12:21am

is Scunthorpe a bad word. it is in other places

this filter is ingenious

stevenmu · 18-08-2006 12:39am

I kinda like it the way it is, it's enough to stop people swearing left, right and centre with no good reason, but when someone really wants to swear to make a point, that option is open too.

Rb · 18-08-2006 4:59am

stevenmu wrote:

I kinda like it the way it is, it's enough to stop people swearing left, right and centre with no good reason, but when someone really wants to swear to make a point, that option is open too.

I agree.
Leave it as it is.

Mimikyu · 18-08-2006 11:25am

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Bob the Builder · 18-08-2006 11:36am

the filter has only ever blocked me once in about 90 posts, with the word F***

I agree that it is weak.
Basically, everyone is saying the same thing

1) Make it stricter(including those F#cking asteriks)
2) destroy it, it's a filter that's not fullfilling its pupose

See,
**** & **** & fúck & fucĶ & FƯCK

....what has the filter caught?
(sorry about the bad language, i was proving a point)

Matthewthebig · 18-08-2006 12:31pm

fuck

DublinWriter · 18-08-2006 6:19pm

Arsebiscuits. Sphincter. Wankel Rotary Engine.

monkeyfudge · 18-08-2006 6:26pm

I remember trying to offload a Matsu****a brand video deck on the for sale forums... that was fun.

Also we had problems with the word unimportant for a while.

mike65 · 18-08-2006 6:28pm

Belgium

Mike.

Sofaspud · 18-08-2006 6:29pm

The fucking filter is alright as it is, there are some ridiculous ones, much like snigger, where you can't even say cucumber, or circumstance or the like.

Leave it the way it fucking is, as it's quite obviously impossible to penetrate.

(hur hur, I said penetrate)

DublinWriter · 18-08-2006 6:40pm

It must also fucking suck if you want to discuss the goings on in typical Irish towns such as Bastard, Nobber, Muff and Pullenass.

Tar.Aldarion · 18-08-2006 7:38pm

It's to protect kids, I assume, or what?

I don't see the point, don't mind it though.

Zillah · 19-08-2006 5:29am

I like being able to say fuck, it makes me feel like I have magic powers.

Down with the swear filter! I never understood why certain words were inherently evil or offensive.

amp · 19-08-2006 9:59am

Way back, in the mists of time, before most of you were born, I fought this fight. It ultimately led to the catchphrase "foreskin cheese".

I think that instead of the filter turning words into asterisk's it should replace the words with other words like "poop" "flip" and possibly "ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM". It would be hilarious.

muffler · 19-08-2006 1:04pm

Drop the filter and you may as well make a public announcement that personal abuse will be allowed.

Like the old saying - if it aint broke dont fix it

Sparky · 19-08-2006 1:24pm

Only the really smart people know how to avoid the fucking filter.

However I agree that in cases foul language should not be used all the time, but in certain cases works well to give your anger of something more noticable to people.

"The fucking wanker scratched my new car"

However excessive use of it towards another user I would not tollerate.

Week bans in my opinion would be handed out to users who use such language.

However while on the subject, the new vB uses an infraction system for use of foul language resulting in 1 point. say 3 of those and your banned for a length of time.

"fuck you OP".

1 point to you sir, 2 left.

dabbler2004 · 19-08-2006 2:28pm

I think either leave it as it is or make it stricter, if we see ****! /******* in a post we get the drift of what's being said. I mean we're all adults* here, we don't need things spelled out to us, do we?

* most of the time

or how about a filter that leaves the first and last letters in place so we know when people are callings us f*****g b******s or whatever

Wertz · 19-08-2006 4:20pm

muffler wrote:

Drop the filter and you may as well make a public announcement that personal abuse will be allowed.

Like the old saying - if it aint broke dont fix it

I disagree....we already have charter legislation on personal abuse and we already have ready means for getting around the filter should we so choose.

If I were to say for example, "haha [poster] you're an idiot, go away", I'm banned for personal abuse.
Or I could have put it much more eloquently and said "haha [poster] you're a fucking idiot, fuck off"....what did the expletive really change? (apart from making me feel better

)I'm still banned

I like amp's idea, in fact my other regular forum uses a similar system where the filter is configured to replace certain words with others (in-jokes mostly) and where personal abuse is encouraged and swearing is de facto. (I'm not for a moment suggesting that that would work on a forum the size of boards)

Another way of implementing the filter would be to make it an optional on/off in the user CP (on by default) and tightening the filter to ban alternative spellings of all of the barred expletives. That way we remain family friendly (in fact become even more so) but can be all growed up too if we so choose...