anyone ever 'feel' someone as opposed to seeing?

Trinity

Hi

Hope this is the right forum, feel free to move it if its not!

Has anyone ever felt a presence, i dont mean the general i feel like there someone in the room but been touched by something you cant see?

I've always been aware of strange events happening around me from a very early age, my mother told me loads of stuff i used to say and do as a 4 yar old and i have experienced a few events, was never really scared in fact one was very very pleasant!

However this one scared me. I was asleep but i woke up with a start as i thought there was someone in the room at the end of the bed. I saw a dark figure i thought i must have been dreaming, but a minute later i tried to move but my two arms wouldnt move. it felt as though they were pinned to the bed. like something or someone had me held down by my upper arms.

it was very frightening and my heart was pouding. after a few minutes i could move them again.

my first thought was that it was a physical illness as i smoke but the next morning my son said to me mam who was that man in the bed beside you. I laughed and said there was no man in the bed (highly unlikely l'm single lol) and he said yes there was, i came into you last night and i saw him lying beside you.

my son is 6 and when he was 4 he'd often tell me of life 'before he was born' when he was a builder with a wife and kids who loved playing pool, he told me his friends called him snooker!??

anyway there could have been a very simple explanation for it but it was pretty weird when my son said that.

anyone experienced anything similar?

kshiel

Hi Trinity 1. Yes I have had experience some what like this before. I have often saw someone at the end of my bed and have felt like I was pinned down. I remember once feeling like someone poked me when I was doing the washing up.

The times I felt I was been pinned down was very scary to me also. I use to call out a prayer and to anyone I new who was dead to come and help me, usually after that I would be released so to speak. This happened to me for a period of months before it stopped in fact to tell the truth I cannot really remember when it actually did. Has this happened only the once or a couple of times. I dont know how you can stop it but there are plenty of knowledable people on this board who could probally point you in the direction you need or better explaining what it might be

Trinity

Hi KShiel thanks for your reply!

Yeah first time anything like that, plenty of other experiences though. Its so nice to be able to say it without waiting with baited breath for the usual jibes and accusations of mental illness that follows lol

I can imagine how scared you were alright, luckily most other experiences for me were not frightening really.

I remember one in particular when i was about 19 say. i was walking down the staircase of a really old house that had been turned into bedsits and i felt this huge rush/force go through my body like something had passed right through me. it was actually a fantastic feeling i went back hoping it would happen again, it didnt.

Cant put it down to drink or drugs cos i did neither :rolleyes:

Tazzle

kshiel wrote:

Hi Trinity 1. Yes I have had experience some what like this before. I have often saw someone at the end of my bed and have felt like I was pinned down. I remember once feeling like someone poked me when I was doing the washing up.

The times I felt I was been pinned down was very scary to me also. I use to call out a prayer and to anyone I new who was dead to come and help me, usually after that I would be released so to speak. This happened to me for a period of months before it stopped in fact to tell the truth I cannot really remember when it actually did. Has this happened only the once or a couple of times. I dont know how you can stop it but there are plenty of knowledable people on this board who could probally point you in the direction you need or better explaining what it might be

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

Trinity

Tazzle wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

Hi

thanks for that, i googled everything about numb arms the next day in work but didnt find anything half as interesting!

It does mention spiritual causes i.e. ghosts etc

but now that i think about it i was lying on my back when i woke up i dont normally sleep that way so it could be totally unrelated to anything paranormal - it was probably more my sons comments about a man in the bed that made me think it was!!

stevenmu

Hi Trinity1.

What you experienced is usually called Sleep Paralysis (often reffered too as the 'Night Terrors' for obvious reasons ). We've discussed similar experiences many times here, and many of us have shared in them. It's actually seems to be a fairly common phenomenon so you don't have to worry about any jibes about mental illness (altough such things are strongly frowned upon here anyway ). The problems come from trying to decide exactly what sleep paralysis is.

Some people would claim that it's purely a biological phenomenon. The basic idea is that a switch flicks in your brain when you go to sleep cutting off signals from your brain to your body to stop you getting up and acting out your dreams. With sleep paralysis, for some reason this switch doesn't flick off again when you wake (or it triggers just before you actually fall asleep), meaning that you can try to move but the signal don't reach your muscles and nothing happens. The figures people tend to see are often called hypnogogic hallucinations, these are thought to be a result of some kind of sensory feedback loop caused by your brain being half awake and half asleep leading to normal sensory input getting mixed with imaginary or dream input. I don't know what causes the pressure people feel pushing them down, but it seems reasonable that if someone tries to sit up or move and can't they'll assume that it is some kind of force or pressure holding them in place and then start to 'feel' that.

Other people take a more paranormal view. The most commonly held one (that I've seen anyway) is that it is related to astral projection, whereby your soul or spirit leaves your body and goes for a wander in the astral plane. Something then happens which causes your body to wake up before you soul or spirit has fully reintegrated itself leaving you without full control over your body. In this state you are still more connected to higher planes which is why you may see other spirits around your room. In fact some say that being in such a state can attract negative entities, or that it is the arrival of such entities that cause the body to wake up in such a hurry.

Luckily both sides agree that there is no actuall danger. It may be a bit of a shock when it happens but trying to relax seems to help it pass quicker. Some people also find that focusing on their breathing works too.


Some links:
(sciency ones)
Stanford's Sleep Well Site
Wikipedia Sleep Paralysis Article
(paranormally ones)
Mysticweb's Astral Projection Forums

(I know I have more hidden away somewhere, I'll try and post them up if I come across them)

Zillah

stevenmu wrote:

What you experienced is usually called Sleep Paralysis (often reffered too as the 'Night Terrors' for obvious reasons )

Actually "Night Terrors" are a completely different phenomenon. Wiki it, interesting article.

Trinity

thanks for that guys, really interesting stuff.

My son got the night terrors as a baby, least thats what the doctor called them.

it was absolutely terrifying for me as his mother to watch as there was nothing i could do.

he was awake and able to move but he was screaming the house down in fear saying he could see monsters. He would be looking around the room and start screaming saying its a monster and would start to shake uncontrollably and bury his head in me.

I have never seen such fear in my sons face and hopefully never will again. It was real terror.. shook me up.

he was about 3 or 4 i think.