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99 battle of the blinds

  • 15-08-2006 3:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭


    First a bit of history, we played this hand about 10 mins ago. I make it 40 to go utg+1. The button calls. The BB makes it 100. No one pays of my aces any more so I make it 300 to go. The button folds, and the bb thinks for a while and folds too. I show 97s.

    I raise his limp and he folds.

    Then on his sb he completes. I have 99 and make it 50 to go. He makes it 150. I call. The flop is 634 and we both check. Turn 10 he bets 200 I call. River a 3 and I call 300.

    How did I do?

    Villain is tight and not very good. We are both at least 200bbs deep.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Poker & Pints


    The Pot is bout 300 on the flop, seems enough that if he had a real hand(big pair) he would have pushed the flop. I am curious why you did not bet the flop?? Guess I would have figured he was on AK, AQ. I guess the bet on turn and river suggest he had A10, which would not have been my initial guess, but plausible. I don't see much problem with the calls...but i think you could have gotten away from 99 when the 10 hit. Hope he showed 88, 77.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    The Pot is bout 300 on the flop, seems enough that if he had a real hand(big pair) he would have pushed the flop. I am curious why you did not bet the flop?? Guess I would have figured he was on AK, AQ. I guess the bet on turn and river suggest he had A10, which would not have been my initial guess, but plausible. I don't see much problem with the calls...but i think you could have gotten away from 99 when the 10 hit. Hope he showed 88, 77.

    We both had more than 2k at the start of hand, so pushing the flop would be a little strange dont you think? Im not concerned at all about the ten, if im beaten he has an overpair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    Looks like he showed up with 66.

    Still - I think you played it pretty well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I think he'd play 66+, AK and AQ (might not have bet the river with these) the same, hence I like how you played it...

    You make money off 77, 88, AK and AQ, but lose the minimum to 66, TT, JJ, QQ, KK and AA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭shaydy


    Ok, I could be way off but here's how i read the villan,

    Reading the history I think his limp here is expecting a raise from you, so its quite possible he was trying to trap with a big hand, QQ KK AA. His check on the flop again I think is expecting you to bet, he wants to check raise here similar to how the preflop action went and after you checked behind him he doesnt make the same mistake on the turn and bets out to get maximum value.

    I think after your turn call you have to call the river but I think your behind here. A raise on the turn would have been a better approach i think depending on stack sizes.

    Right or wrong?? (more than likely wrong:-))
    S


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    looks good.
    i like the check behind on the flop but its got its disadvantages as well i suppose.
    i would prefer this line with JJ+ .
    question is would you have folded if any pic cards turns and he bets it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Poker & Pints


    We both had more than 2k at the start of hand, so pushing the flop would be a little strange dont you think? Im not concerned at all about the ten, if im beaten he has an overpair.

    I would ask you the question: Is 300 enough of a pot for you or for him to take down with a bet on the flop??

    At a smaller stakes I would say pushing the flop and in a tourney is fine. What are your thoughts? I know "strange", but why.

    I still think everything was fine, especially if your not worried bout the 10. I say AK, AQ, 77, 88.....I think you have it won.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    So if you think you are ahead of some of his limp raising range then played it fine got to as a cheap a showdown as possible with your hand against no real scare cards

    My only worry is what does he limp reraise with that you beat other than AK
    Is this not JJ+ a lot or do you believe that range has widened a lot (or was pretty wide at the start) with your 97 play ?

    Actually how dou you raise after he completes the SB did BB raise ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    I would ask you the question: Is 300 enough of a pot for you or for him to take down with a bet on the flop??

    At a smaller stakes I would say pushing the flop and in a tourney is fine. What are your thoughts? I know "strange", but why.

    I still think everything was fine, especially if your not worried bout the 10. I say AK, AQ, 77, 88.....I think you have it won.

    Theres $300 in the pot, and nearly 2k in my stack. Similarly for him. So protecting the pot is far less important than protecting our stacks. Pushing on this flop with any one pair hand is suicidal, as its never going to be called unless its behind. If the sb open pushed this flop I would never call unless I could beat aces. If this was a tournament and the stacks were the same then we would be in the same situation, you would never normally be that deep in a tournament. In general in poker you never want to bet any more than the pot, unless you are 100% sure you have the best hand. Betting 5 times the pot with a hand that will never be called if beaten is bad poker.

    I cant say why my opponent didnt bet the flop, but for me I didnt really see any reason to. If I have the best hand he will probably fold, or might raise me. And I cant really call a raise. If I check I might induce a bluff, and I also keep the pot manageable. If I had no pair id be much more inclined to bet. Nothing wrong with a bet here IMO, I just prefer a check most of the time.

    I lost, he had KK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    So if you think you are ahead of some of his limp raising range then played it fine got to as a cheap a showdown as possible with your hand against no real scare cards

    My only worry is what does he limp reraise with that you beat other than AK
    Is this not JJ+ a lot or do you believe that range has widened a lot (or was pretty wide at the start) with your 97 play ?

    Actually how dou you raise after he completes the SB did BB raise ?

    The guy sitting between us was sitting out, so I was the BB when he was small.

    I think I gave too much credit to a wide range because of the 97 hand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Poker & Pints


    Theres $300 in the pot, and nearly 2k in my stack. Similarly for him. So protecting the pot is far less important than protecting our stacks. Pushing on this flop with any one pair hand is suicidal, as its never going to be called unless its behind. If the sb open pushed this flop I would never call unless I could beat aces. If this was a tournament and the stacks were the same then we would be in the same situation, you would never normally be that deep in a tournament. In general in poker you never want to bet any more than the pot, unless you are 100% sure you have the best hand. Betting 5 times the pot with a hand that will never be called if beaten is bad poker.

    I cant say why my opponent didnt bet the flop, but for me I didnt really see any reason to. If I have the best hand he will probably fold, or might raise me. And I cant really call a raise. If I check I might induce a bluff, and I also keep the pot manageable. If I had no pair id be much more inclined to bet. Nothing wrong with a bet here IMO, I just prefer a check most of the time.

    I lost, he had KK.

    Very good...thanks...nice read on your take here....


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