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No hand luggage on flights from UK

Trampas · 2006-08-10 07:38:22

What does this mean for Ryanair flights??

10-08-2006 7:38am

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What does this mean for Ryanair flights??

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#2 10-08-2006 7:50am

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What does this mean for Ryanair flights??

It means you won't be allowed to bring hand luggage on board. Think that's about the thick of it for the moment. I'd say they're currently trying to figure out what to do

http://www.rte.ie/business/2006/0810/airlines.html

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#3 10-08-2006 7:54am

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It means their going to be minted by the end of the day with all that checked in luggage

DUE TO HEIGHTENED SECURITY MEASURES IMPOSED BY THE DEPARTMENT FOR TRANSPORT IN THE UK THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DELAYS TO FLIGHTS DEPARTING FROM ALL UK AIRPORTS THIS MORNING.

PASSENGERS ARE ADVISED THAT HAND LUGGAGE WILL NOT BE PERMITTED ON BOARD ANY AIRCRAFT AS ALL ITEMS MUST BE CHECKED IN.

WE ARE COOPERATING FULLY WITH THE POLICE AND AIRPORT AUTHORITIES BUT SIGNIFICANT DELAYS WILL ARISE WHICH MAY CAUSE FLIGHT CANCELLATIONS LATER TODAY AND WE APOLOGISE SINCERELY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE THESE ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES MAY CAUSE TO PASSENGERS INTENDING TO FLY TO/FROM UK AIRPORTS TODAY.

FURTHER UPDATES WILL BE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

....I doubt they will be charging today!

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#4 10-08-2006 7:54am

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So will they be charging everyone know for luggage now

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#5 10-08-2006 7:55am

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

So will they be charging everyone know for luggage now

I doubt it. I'd imagine a lot of cancellations may occur though

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#6 10-08-2006 7:58am

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Already lots cancelled.

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/fltinfo.php?

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#7 10-08-2006 8:35am

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All Aer Lingus and BMi flights to Heathrow cancelled until at least 2pm

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#8 11-08-2006 3:27am

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Loads of broken laptops me thinks!

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#9 11-08-2006 7:24am

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There is another tread open on this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054974319

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#10 11-08-2006 7:36am

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Bond-007 wrote:

Loads of broken laptops me thinks!

Not if they are left at home. Laptops have become a silly accessory, like a lady's Gucci handbag!

The boring Powerpoint presentation should fit nicely on a diskette or better and more modern still on a flash stick.;)

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#11 11-08-2006 8:36am

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i dont agree there.....lots of people work whilst travelling......

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#12 11-08-2006 8:41am

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corktina wrote:

i dont agree there.....lots of people work whilst travelling......

Indeed! There's work and work...

From what I have seen there is a lot of preening going on. The work done on an aeroplane with all the noise and movement would not be of any real quality. For the 50 odd minutes of a Dublin-London flight the actual time available for working would be minimal!

Looks good to the uninitiated I suppose.:p

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#13 11-08-2006 8:55am

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Im travelling from dublin to Edinburgh today, is hand luggage allowed FROM Ireland to UK??

Id appreciate if anyone knows as I can't get through to Ryanair.

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#14 11-08-2006 9:44am

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rubberduckey wrote:

Im travelling from dublin to Edinburgh today, is hand luggage allowed FROM Ireland to UK??

Id appreciate if anyone knows as I can't get through to Ryanair.

ROI -> UK allowed hand luggage

UK -> ROI - not allowed hand luggage

Confirmed last night on radio by Ryanair and Aerlingus.

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#15 11-08-2006 9:51am

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Laptops don't have to be used on the plane itself to mean work! I bring my laptop with me if I'm going on business trips, and use it in the hotel.

I wonder will this end the baggage handlers' thieves' circle - airports will face daily huge claims by people whose laptops, with all their confidential business information on them, have been stolen.

Undoubtedly there will at last be a real clampdown on thievish baggage handlers if this happens.

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#16 11-08-2006 3:26pm

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It is just having your laptop, camcorder, camera etc. thrown into the luggage compartment that people really worry about, even without it being stolen. They could easily be damaged. All these things can be scanned, as they have been for the past few years, so we should be allowed to bring them on. They should not be allowed to take such property from us. What can't be used as a weapon? You can strangle someone with your clothes or your bare hands. At this rate we will soon all be naked, gagged and bound before getting on a plane. Security is all very well, but it should be done without depriving us of our property.

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#17 11-08-2006 4:17pm

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yes, surley this is an over-reaction? i am inclined to think that the hand bagge was probbly scanned better than the hold baggage......i assume they DO scan that dont they?

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#18 11-08-2006 4:21pm

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corktina wrote:

yes, surley this is an over-reaction? i am inclined to think that the hand bagge was probbly scanned better than the hold baggage......i assume they DO scan that dont they?

The point is/was that the supposed modus operandi was that there would be three people involved, each carrying bottles containing one of the ingredients for some kind of liquid explosive. Each ingredient was, by itself, harmless, so by banning all hand baggage to the hold they were merely removing the possibility of someone managing to mix them up.

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#19 11-08-2006 5:26pm

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Flukey wrote:

It is just having your laptop, camcorder, camera etc. thrown into the luggage compartment that people really worry about, even without it being stolen. They could easily be damaged. All these things can be scanned, as they have been for the past few years, so we should be allowed to bring them on. They should not be allowed to take such property from us. What can't be used as a weapon? You can strangle someone with your clothes or your bare hands. At this rate we will soon all be naked, gagged and bound before getting on a plane. Security is all very well, but it should be done without depriving us of our property.

The problem is a laptop and any other electronic device just shows up on a scanner as a bunch of electronics. This plot involved using the electrical charge in a consumer electronic device to detonate an explosive (i think it was an ipod). There is no way in the 10 seconds your laptop is on the carryon baggage x-ray scanner to determine if the electronics are designed to deliver a high voltage spark (by capaciters) or function normally. Even if it could be determined to function normally nothing stopping bombers from altering a device such as a camera flash while in the air.

Similarly with liquids. Baggage going into the hold can be more throughly scanned since it doesn't have to be done in the 10 seconds like carryon. The most important protection is the device would have to be already assembled if going into the hold. A lucozade bottle with a bunch of wires connecting it to an ipod player would stand out alot more then passengers carring on indvidually a lucozade bottle and ipod player seperatly.

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