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Dell PCs

  • 26-07-2006 6:32pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭


    Hello,
    I'm a complete egit when it comes to the technical specs of a computer. I'm thinking of buying a new PC from Dell and was wondering did anyone else buy a PC from them and was it anygood? I don't need a massive home entertainment system, I only use the PC for the internet and using Paint Programs at the same time. Basicly I would be using multiple programs at once. I read on the Dell.ie website that a Dual Core Intel Pentium D Processer or
    Intel® Pentium® D 930 Dual Core Processor (3.00GHz, 800MHz, 2x2MB cache)
    would be good for it?

    Heres a PC that I found on Dell.ie, is anygood for what I need?:
    Base

    Intel® Pentium® D 930 Dual Core Processor (3.00GHz, 800MHz, 2x2MB cache)
    Operating System

    Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 (incl Symantec PC Restore Recovery) Microsoft Operating System

    Memory

    2048MB Dual Channel DDR 533MHz [4x512MB] Memory

    Keyboard
    Dell™ Enhanced USB Multimedia Keyboard - UK/Ire (QWERTY)

    Monitor
    Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (E196FP)

    Video Card

    256MB nVidia™ GeForce™ 7900GS graphics card

    Hard Drive

    320GB Serial ATA RAID 0 Stripe [2x160GB 7200rpm drives with DataBurst™ cache] Hard Drive

    Floppy Drives

    No Floppy Drive Floppy Drives

    Mouse

    Dell™ USB Optical Mouse Mouse

    Modem

    Dell™ v92 Internal Data/Fax/Voice Modem

    CD/DVD Drives

    16x max. DVD+/-RW Drive CD/DVD Drives

    Sound Cards

    Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ ADVANCED HD software Sound Cards

    Speakers

    Dell™ A525 Speakers with Subwoofer Speakers

    Shipping Documents

    Microsoft Application Software

    Microsoft® Works 7.0 - English Microsoft Application Software
    Oh and is the graphics card anygood?
    Thanks,
    AppleBack.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    AppleBack wrote:

    Oh and is the graphics card anygood?
    Thanks,
    AppleBack.

    Ehh yeah, the graphics card would be considered high endish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    I'd say it's really good overall but the graphics card is a bit on the weak side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    you probably wouldnt need a pc with those kind of specs. Dual core is for heavy multitasking. A celeron system with onboard graphics should do you fine from what you say you use it for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    Yes that is a very good pc from dell... and no the graphics card is not weak, alot of us wish we could of bought it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    Flunked wrote:
    Yes that is a very good pc from dell... and no the graphics card is not weak, alot of us wish we could of bought it :(

    I dont :D:p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Looks ok, will do exactly what you want it for. but dont be under the impression that getting a more expensive system will keep in date for longer. pc's outdate very quickly.

    How much for it is the burning question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    Flunked wrote:
    Yes that is a very good pc from dell... and no the graphics card is not weak, alot of us wish we could of bought it :(

    Didn't read the original post properly, yeah of the course the card is fine what he wants it for, was looking from a gaming perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    Den_M wrote:
    Didn't read the original post properly, yeah of the course the card is fine what he wants it for, was looking from a gaming perspective.

    The card is a beast :rolleyes:

    From Wiki

    GeForce 7900 GS

    NVIDIA has recently released the 7900 GS, which is designed to fill the gap between the GeForce 7600 GT and the GeForce 7900 GT. As of late, Dell is the only computer manufacturer that sells the 7900 GS.

    The GeForce 7900 GS has 20 pixel processors, 7 vertex processors, 256-bit memory bus, and comes clocked at approximately 470 MHz/1320 MHz for core/memory, which should provide slightly sub-par performance to the 7900 GT. The GeForce 7900 GS is powered by the latest graphics chip code-named G71, thus, comes with dual-link DVI outputs and other advantages the G71 has over predecessors, particularly, very low power consumption.[3]

    The predicted retail price of the 7900 GS is $250 USD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    Ok ok mr know it all, you win!!
    I was under the impression that most Dell machines came with low end nvidia cards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭AppleBack


    Ok myabe I was aiming too high with thatlast PC.
    How about this one:
    Base
    Intel® Celeron® D 346 Processor (3.06GHz, 533MHz, 256k cache)
    Microsoft Operating System

    Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 (incl Symantec PC Restore Recovery)
    Memory

    512MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x256] Memory
    Keyboard

    Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Ire (QWERTY)
    Monitor

    Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (E196FP)
    Video Card

    Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900
    Hard Drive

    80GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
    Floppy Drives

    No Floppy Drive
    Mouse

    Dell™ USB Scroll Mouse
    Modem

    Dell™ v92 Data/Fax modem with modem cable
    CD/DVD Drives

    48x/32x/48x/16x CDRW/DVD-ROM Combination Drive
    Sound Cards

    Integrated 2.0 Channel High Definition Audio
    Speakers

    No Speakers
    Shipping Documents

    System Documentation with UK Power Cord
    Gedis Bundle Reference

    List D073C5at Dimension 3100C
    Microsoft Application Software

    Microsoft® Works 7.0 - English
    Standard Warranty

    90-Day Collect and Return Service
    Cover It with Dell Support Services

    2-Year Basic: At Home On-site service PLUS online Multimedia training
    AntiVirus & Security Software

    McAfee® Security Centre™ 15-month subscription
    Digital Photography

    No Photo Organising & Sharing Software/No Photo Editing Software
    Order Information

    Dimension Order - Ireland
    Dell System Media Kit

    Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers
    Ghost 10

    No Secure Data Software
    Adobe Reader

    Adobe Reader 6.0 - English
    Dell Internet Order

    Dell Internet Order.
    Network assistant

    90 days trial of Network Assistant included
    Anygood?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    AppleBack wrote:
    Ok myabe I was aiming too high with thatlast PC.
    How about this one:

    Anygood?

    Far more suitable for you, how much?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    up the RAM to 1gig+ tho, XP uses upto 256MB on average leaving you only half your system RAM for other programs. You mentioned Paint programs? be more specific - photoshop for example eats lots of RAM.
    Maybe consider a laptop. you can get quite good specs for what you need on a neat little machine and you can bring it with you. You don't seem to want a hard core games machine just one that does exactly the same thing PC's have been doing easily with "outdated" hardware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭AppleBack


    761 euros. Might get this one. Thanks for the help everyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Den_M wrote:
    Ok ok mr know it all, you win!!
    I was under the impression that most Dell machines came with low end nvidia cards.

    The lower end ones actually tend to come with low end ATI cards like the x300 or whatever the equivilent is these days that DELL stock (x1300 or x600 etc), or the integrated GMA in some of the very cheap ones....I don't think DELL really supply any of their PCs with low end nvidia cards, only mid range to high end...

    That first PC you linked to is an out and out gaming beast, the second one, seems much more suited to your needs as described. :)

    PS - if that Celeron D system is 761 euro - which sounds really overpriced for DELL - don't get it, go for the cheapest desktop they have and throw in another 256mb of ram yourself - they do computers from as little as 400 euro inc monitor, which are perfect for basic use and playing older games and it certainly sounds like you only really need a very basic computer!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    The 2nd one looks good for your needs alright, like someone else said, maybe double the ram up to 1024.

    €761 for that though sounds incredibly high, you should be able to get that spec for easily under €500, or even below €400. Dell's prices do go up and down a lot over the course of a few weeks, so if you're not in any major rush try and hang on and keep an eye on the prices. The time to buy is when they start combining special offers like free double memory, €50 off, free delivery etc, then spec a machine out, save it to your shopping basket and ring up a sales guy and get him to try and beat the price or throw in some free stuff. Another thing to watch out for is to only buy the dimension systems (when going for a desktop, don't bother with the optiplex or precision systems. Try picking each of the models in the dimension range and customising it to your needs, you can easily save €100 on the exact same spec just by starting out with a different base model.

    You could also try the outlet store, www.dell.ie/outlet .


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Also if you know someone who works in a college (or maybe even a company) that buys Dell computers they might be able to get you a cheap machine on the Dell premier employee thingy. I'm down here in UL and we can avail of the same discount that Dell employees get. Knocks a good bit off the price.

    And before you ask - the answer is no! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Video Card

    Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900
    ****ING BIG RED ****ING FLASHING LIGHT'S WARNING!!!
    The above graphics card won't play any game, the Celeron is the crap version of the pentium. TBH, if you're only using it for Word, and Excel, ok, but you won't play any recent game on it, and YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO UPGRADE IT!!!

    Oh, and cos you're in college, you should be able to get a student discount of some type. Pretty sure that's still around...

    Oh, and did I forget to say, when you say "paint programs", you don't mean Photoshop, do you? It'll proberly run, but I doubt all that well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    the_syco wrote:
    ****ING BIG RED ****ING FLASHING LIGHT'S WARNING!!!
    The above graphics card won't play any game, the Celeron is the crap version of the pentium. TBH, if you're only using it for Word, and Excel, ok, but you won't play any recent game on it, and YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO UPGRADE IT!!!

    Oh, and cos you're in college, you should be able to get a student discount of some type. Pretty sure that's still around...

    Oh, and did I forget to say, when you say "paint programs", you don't mean Photoshop, do you? It'll proberly run, but I doubt all that well.

    Well he's already said it'll be for really basic tasks so I don't think it'll really matter. The GMA 900 is crap for games but:

    1) Its good for an Intel integrated card
    2) Its light years ahead of the "old" Intel Extreme days

    So unless he actually plans on playing any games the GMA is fine...a friend of mine plays games on his GMA900, it actually runs quite alot of newer games, even if at low levels...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭AppleBack


    Is an 80GB hard drive good for a home PC?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    It's not a lot, and you can get 300GB for €100 on Komplett. But unless you're planning on having a monster music collection, thousands of decent quality (3 megapixel or higher) photos, and/or video editing you probably won't need it.

    If you can wait till about next month, you really should - the Intel Core 2 CPUs just came out yesterday and they are infinitely better than any Pentium or Celeron. The low-end ones shouldn't cost too much more than the current stuff now. I know you don't need anything particularly high-end, but at this stage I wouldn't recommend a Pentium or Celeron to anyone - unless you can do with extra heat in the winter :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭deckie27


    Appleback.

    You might want to check out tesco this weekend. They have a machine for 799 which will easilly meet your needs,
    Also you will get back 400 in tesco points in November, So you could look at it as tecso minding your money for 4 months.
    Thread about them Here

    Dec


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    Can anyone tell me how good a ATI Radeon X600 256mb card is ? Clueless about graphics cards.

    I got a quote from dell for the following

    Dual core cpu 2.8 GHZ 1MB of cache
    2GB o Ram (533mhz)
    160GB hdd
    2 x 19inch LCD

    All for 1300 euro. Seem's like a decent-ish deal. Comparable to Komplett's built pc's (I want a warranty hence not building myself).

    But I just don't trust Dell :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    o.s graphics card is ATI Radeon X600 256mb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    damnyanks wrote:
    Can anyone tell me how good a ATI Radeon X600 256mb card is ? Clueless about graphics cards.

    I got a quote from dell for the following

    Dual core cpu 2.8 GHZ 1MB of cache
    2GB o Ram (533mhz)
    160GB hdd
    2 x 19inch LCD

    All for 1300 euro. Seem's like a decent-ish deal. Comparable to Komplett's built pc's (I want a warranty hence not building myself).

    But I just don't trust Dell :D

    The x600 is an okay card depending on what you want it for. You won't be able to play new games on anything other then medium settings, and with the latest games, possibly even low, but its fine for basic gaming or older games. I've seen it running Half Life 2 at high settings no problems. Plus, you can always replace it easily should you want to move into better quality gaming....

    Price wise that seems pretty good considering the 2 19" LCDs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Dell Pcs a great for starting out on or for people who don't have huge expectations from there PC. If you've no intention of knowing the ins and outs of a PC then Dells are perfect their solid and relyable.

    What type of Graphics aplication will you be using? high end ones like Photoshop require allot of processing power and memory. depending on the size of the picture.

    For the internet you could use any old lump of a PC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭gamer


    I SEE no reason not to trust dell ,i have seen many good reliable dell pcs,the stick to their gaurantee, you may as well get windows media software add on,only costs 35euro approx.GET 19inch monitor,pci express card ,at least 1gig memory, if you dont, have time to build your own pc its a good brand.If theres a glitch you can ring up customer service or look at dell.ie for loads of faqs,troubleshooting tips on every pc they make .GET pentium 4 3ghz at least ,celerons a waste of money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭AppleBack


    Sorry, another question. Is a pentium III better than a Celeron D processer? A pentium III is what I currently have on my PC. I only have like 63MB of RAM on this PC and anytime I use things like say I'm on the internet, I might want to use MSWord or something and the whole PC will slow down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭gamer


    a celeron 3.oghz would be about 5times faster than a pentium 3 roughly, but if you wanna play games at all you need a pentium 4 ,the ddr memory and motherboard speed is much faster ,front side bus speed is way faster than a pentium 3 ,they have sales ,returned pcs on dell.ie, look for dell outlet store.ON new pc winxp loads up in like 10seconds,hardrive is much faster too.YOU prbly have old demos ,too many programs installed on p3,or you may have spyware which slows it down,or virus, download free adaware antispyware prog.even a p3 needs 256meg ram to surf the net and load windoze antivirus and a firewall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭gamer


    look at www.aldi.ie , on sale 3rd of august,dual core 2.80ghz cpu pentium d 820,i gig ram ddr2 , agp graphics slot ,tv tuner, dvdrw,cdr, writer dvdwriter,built in for 599EURO.THATS a goods pc ,you can get a faster agp card in future,if you wanna play,doom3, cod2 prey ,etc, you WILL NEED TO BUY a faster agp card,it has NO PCI-EXPRESS graphics interface slot, ie it is not for a hard core gamer.It just has onboard vga grahics card,can be upgraded thru agp card slot/interface.IT has tvtuner card,with remote control ,6channel audio .DVD WRITER is dual layer ,rw,r ,ram ,cd rw drive.IT has 3year warranty, large software bundle included.By the way p3s usually have at least 128meg ram.I think this is alot faster the the dell pc,the cpu is dual core ,much faster than the celeron.and cheaper.820 d is good for mutitasking,running mutiple progs at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    I'm torn between the dell and a komplett pc. I don't imagine I'll be playing many games. It will be used for development and office type activities. The ram & monitors are what I require most really, that said I want to get the best bang for my buck. the 2 monitors stick a heavy price tag on it so a few extra upgrades isnt a huge deal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭HungryJoey


    gamer wrote:
    a celeron 3.oghz would be about 5times faster than a pentium 3 roughly,

    Sorry mate, I'd have to say you are way off there with you're guess. I'd say you need to take a trip to google and check out the real power of them P3's. I think you'd be fairly shocked alright at how Sh!t a Celeron 3ghz really is.

    Hj


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    gamer wrote:
    a celeron 3.oghz would be about 5times faster than a pentium 3 roughly, but if you wanna play games at all you need a pentium 4
    Dude, a celeron is a crap version of a pentium. Also, a P3 can be 1.4Ghz, so I don't know where you're going with your "3 times faster" bs, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    You should be able to get a much better deal from Dell than that last spec you posted up.

    I ordered a Dell only yesterday for the office here with a 2.8ghz P4, 180gb hard drive and 2 gigs of ram for roughly same price.

    Just a 17" monitor though.

    What painting package are you using? If you aren't using Photoshop and Illustrator, then you really should get into using them... and running them on a Celeron can be a bit of a pain...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    gamer wrote:
    look at www.aldi.ie , on sale 3rd of august,dual core 2.80ghz cpu pentium d 820,i gig ram ddr2 , agp graphics slot ,tv tuner, dvdrw,cdr, writer dvdwriter,built in for 599EURO.THATS a goods pc ,you can get a faster agp card in future.

    Personally i think this is bad advice, going AGP now is like telling the guy to invest all his money in wrist mounted sundials. Unless that mobo happens to have a PCI-e slot, dont waste your time.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    DirkVoodoo wrote:
    Personally i think this is bad advice, going AGP now is like telling the guy to invest all his money in wrist mounted sundials. Unless that mobo happens to have a PCI-e slot, dont waste your time.

    Yeah AGP is dead if you ever plan on upgrading. PCI-express is the way to go.
    As regards Dell, I bought my first PC a 4550 about 3-4 years ago with:
    2.66 P4
    512 RAM
    GeForce Mx420
    17" Flat Panel Monitor
    60 gig HDD
    CD-R/RW Drive
    DVD ROM Drive
    250 MB Zip Drive (I know young and foolish :rolleyes: )
    sound blaster live! sound card speakers and stuff
    I think I paid around €2000 at the time

    Over the last year I've stuck in:
    XFX 6600gt
    an extra 512 MB RAM
    and a 320gig HD

    It still motors away quite well. I can play the latest games at medium to high settings at 1024x768 resolution which suits me just fine.

    I doubt I'll replace it for another year or so. (I'll be writing up my thesis by then so no time for games!).

    I find Dells very reliable (tho I've have to fix plenty of them in work and for friends who have done some really silly things).

    So get a machine with a good processor as the back bone of the system and add components as you need them. I reccomend at least 1gig of RAM as a minimum if you want to have lots or applications open at the same time. As regards graphics, you can cut corners here and get a mid range PCI-e card later on should you need it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    the_syco wrote:
    Dude, a celeron is a crap version of a pentium. Also, a P3 can be 1.4Ghz, so I don't know where you're going with your "3 times faster" bs, tbh.

    The newer Celerons are alot better then the older Celerons ever were, pretty much all they share is the name now, so they aren't as bad as you'd think. They should really rename the line to something else!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭gamer


    From his posts, i get the impression this pc is not for games ,just for word processing and net surfing ,unless you are using photoshop /video editing that aldi pc with a 9800pro agp card or a 256meg agp card,would easily handle all your requirements,and you could put in an extra gig of ddr2 ram.IF you are buying a new monitor you may as well get a 19inch lcd.The average p3 is 700mhz, therefore i still say a new 2.80ghz celeron with 1gigram is at LEAST 5TIMES FASTER THAN HIS p3, remember he says i only have 64meg ram.Get the aldi pc and you,ll be able to afford to buy 2 new lcd monitors.I,ve never seen a p3 faster than 700mhz,i know they made faster p3s,but they are not common.LOOK at 5uspect posting above, i can play the lastest games on an agp system at 1024 res,on a 2.8 pentium 4.They are selling very fast 256meg agp cards in most pc stores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    gamer wrote:
    They are selling very fast 256meg agp cards in most pc stores.
    OT, but never buy a card in a store, unless they only sell PC parts, as otherwise, the card will stay the same price for quite some time. Heck, I'd say there are still loads of AGP cards in their stock rooms, waiting to be sold. When I used to look in the stores, a graphics card would stay the same price for a few months. Online, they go down after maybe a month.

    Its like comparing buying a pre-made PC from Compustore, thats being in the back room for months, and buying a PC off Dell, with some new parts, that may have only come in in the last few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    5uspect wrote:
    up the RAM to 1gig+ tho, XP uses upto 256MB on average

    I ran XP on my machine for 2 years with 256MB ram, served me through all the classics of the day including Far Cry.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    TomCo wrote:
    I ran XP on my machine for 2 years with 256MB ram, served me through all the classics of the day including Far Cry.

    Fair enough, but for memory heavy apps like photoshop and illustrator 256 won't cut it. OP what "paint" apps are you using?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    TomCo wrote:
    I ran XP on my machine for 2 years with 256MB ram, served me through all the classics of the day including Far Cry.

    Likewise, I used Far Cry, Unreal Tournament 2K4 and a few others on 256MB for about a year, no complaints, although for some reason people tend to somewhat not believe me...don't know why :D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    I guess those games have relatively low individual texture detail compared to the likes of Half-life 2 and Doom 3. I found a major performance increase going form 512 to 1024MB in those games. Different games are heavy on different components I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    5uspect wrote:
    I guess those games have relatively low individual texture detail compared to the likes of Half-life 2 and Doom 3

    Have you played Far Cry? :D

    But yeah, more ram is good. Just don't get it off Dell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    gamer wrote:
    even a p3 needs 256meg ram to surf the net and load windoze antivirus and a firewall.

    Really?

    I must have a magic P166 with 16mb ram then, anyone want to buy it? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭AppleBack


    I use stuff like Ultimate Paint and MS Paint. I'll be buying Paintshop Pro soon enough.

    How about his one, thanks for the help BTW:
    Dimension 3100c (D073C6)

    SYSTEM COMPONENTS

    Dimension 3100c (D073C6) Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 521 with HT technology (2.80GHz, 800MHz, 1MB cache), Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 (incl Symantec PC Restore Recovery)

    Base Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 521 with HT technology (2.80GHz, 800MHz, 1MB cache)

    Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 (incl Symantec PC Restore Recovery)

    Memory 2048MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x1024] Memory

    Keyboard Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Ire (QWERTY)

    Monitor Dell™ 17" UltraSharp™ Digital/Analogue Flat Panel (1707FP)

    Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900

    Hard Drive 80GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive

    Floppy Drives No Floppy Drive

    Mouse Dell™ USB Scroll Mouse

    Modem Dell™ v92 Data/Fax modem with modem cable

    CD/DVD Drives 16x max. DVD+/-RW Drive

    Sound Cards Integrated 2.0 Channel High Definition Audio

    Speakers No Speakers

    Shipping Documents System Documentation with UK Power Cord

    Gedis Bundle Reference List D073C6 Dimension 3100C

    Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 7.0 - English

    Standard Warranty 90-Day Collect and Return Service

    Cover It with Dell Support Services 1-Year Basic: At Home On-site service PLUS online Multimedia training

    AntiVirus & Security Software No Security/Anti-Virus Protection

    Digital Photography No Photo Organising & Sharing Software/No Photo Editing Software

    Order Information Dimension Order - Ireland

    Dell System Media Kit Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers

    Ghost 10 No Secure Data Software

    Adobe Reader Adobe Reader 6.0 - English

    Promotions Hidden Option Class 512MB RAM FREE - Double Memory
    Promo 2x512 MB 533MHz

    Dell Internet Order Dell Internet Order.

    Network assistant 90 days trial of Network Assistant included

    TOTAL Incl. VAT:€ 913.85


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    TomCo wrote:
    Have you played Far Cry? :D

    But yeah, more ram is good. Just don't get it off Dell.

    I have. Got through the demo on my GeForce 4 Mx420 back in the day :)
    I bought it after i got my 6600gt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,816 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    @AppleBack: that PC is still missing a good dedicated graphics card


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    yeah but you can just pop a graphics card in later on if you think you need it. The same goes for the RAM. Get 1024 for now and add more if your memory usage is always maxed out. Plus Dell screw you price wise with RAM. A fancy GFX card will make little difference to the likes of paint shop pro. Tho I would really recommend photoshop and illustrator as top class graphic design tools. Try out the free 30 day trials that you can get from the adobe website. They can be a little tough at first to get used to but once you know the basics you'll have serious fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭gamer


    unless,you wanna do video editing,the aldi pc will do everything,but the dell is very limited grahics,if you wanna get dell please get one that has pci express slot,that dell 3100,has no grahics expansion,no way of upgrading the graphics ,whatsover,if u wanna save money get the aldi pc,upgradeable thru, AGP GRAPHICS INTERFACE,SLOT.GAMES LIKE PrEY DOOM3 .will not run on that dell pc,itel grahics is too slow.aldi has 3 year gaurantee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭AppleBack


    How about this one:
    (D07515t) Dimension 5150
    Date & Time: Sunday 30 July 2006 6:33 PM

    SYSTEM COMPONENTS

    (D07515t) Dimension 5150 Qty 1
    Intel® Pentium® D 820 Dual Core Processor (2.80GHz, 800MHz, 2x1MB cache), Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 (incl Symantec PC Restore Recovery) Unit Price Incl. VAT € 906.54

    Base Intel® Pentium® D 820 Dual Core Processor (2.80GHz, 800MHz, 2x1MB cache)
    Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition, SP2 (incl Symantec PC Restore Recovery)

    Memory 2048MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x1024] Memory

    Keyboard Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Ire (QWERTY)

    Monitor Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (E196FP)

    Video Card b128MB ATI Radeon® X300 SE HyperMemory
    graphics card

    Hard Drive 160GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with

    8MB DataBurst™ cache

    Floppy Drives No Floppy Drive

    Mouse Dell™ USB Scroll Mouse

    Modem Dell™ v92 Internal Data/Fax/Voice Modem

    CD/DVD Drives 16x max. DVD+/-RW Drive

    Sound Cards Integrated Audio with Dolby Digital 7.1 capability

    Speakers No Speakers

    Shipping Documents System Documentation with UK Power Cord

    Gedis Bundle Reference List D07515t Dimension 5150

    Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 7.0 - English

    Standard Warranty 1-Year Collect and Return Service

    Cover It with Dell Support Services No service upgrade selected - 1-Year Collect and Return service only

    AntiVirus & Security Software McAfee® Security Centre™ 15-month subscription

    Digital Photography No Photo Organising & Sharing
    Software/No Photo Editing Software

    Order Information Dimension Order - Ireland

    Dell System Media Kit Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers

    Ghost 10 No Secure Data Software

    Adobe Reader Adobe Reader 6.0 - English

    Dell Internet Order Dell Internet Order.

    Network assistant 90 days trial of Network Assistant included
    TOTAL Incl. VAT:€ 906.54
    Sorry for posting quotes so much but I really want a good PC for my money. While I may not be playing tons of games on it I'd still like the option to be able to. Would the graphics card on the one above be good enough to play games? Not high-end ones like say, Half-Life 2 on high setting or Far Cry on high setting. Just the ability to be able to play them at least. The PC I have now can only manage games like Age Of Empires and a game called StarLancer.

    As I,ve said I use paint programs like Ultimate Paint and the basic MS Paint, but I'd most likely be buying Paintshop soon.

    I'm getting a new PC because this one has so many errors popping up all the time that its just gotten ridiculous. I,ve had it for around four or five years now.

    Anyway thanks for the help!


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