Flopping the top set

Scouser in Dub

One of the many holes in my game is failing to extract value when I flop a set.

Example of a Tournament early doors

Stack sizes all pretty equal blinds at 25/25

Guy to my right UTG folds UTG +2 raises 6xBB
I Min Raise with 9's folded round to original raiser who calls


Flop 9 6 3 or so pot 650

villain bets 1/2 the pot

I min raise again (min raises bad I know but thats another hole)

he folds.

Should I have interpreted his 1/2 pot bet as a continuation bet?
Should I have called and hope the next card helps him without beating me

Is there more value to be gotten from hand when any overcard to a 9 on two streets could beat me

Gholimoli

you played the hand extreamly bad.where do you want me to start?

dont min raise with 99 in postion?
what are you trying to achieve?
are you going to call if he reraises/pushes?(i would no is the answer).in that case why are you turning a playable hand in to muck?

post flop

dont raise,dont min-raise,flat call his bet.you have position on him/the board is not that scary.call him and see if he bets again on the turn.

in general there is no particular way you could have gotten much out of that flop anyway unless your dealing with a muppet.that board does not fit a hand that would raise and call a reraise from UTG +2.

ArmaniJeanss

Min raise pre-flop here serves no purpose that I can see.
Min raise on flop here screams over pair or set - not a good move when you have such a hand.
Flat call his cont bet and hope that his AJ+ hits the turn or river. Bet 30% of the pot on turn if he doesnt bet.
Dont worry 'about next card beating you', set over set is so rare that you don't really mind busting.

slegs

From a tourney play perspective.

Min raises always raise alarm bells because obviously you want a call if you only min raised.

call it down like you are trying to fill while being wary of him filling flushes and str8's...if one looks like its forming then reraise but by an amount not giving him value to call

People think they are being cute with min raises but all they do is draw attention. Unless you are doing some wierd bluff I would suggest removing min raises from your repetoire.

luckylucky

slegs wrote:

From a tourney play perspective.

Min raises always raise alarm bells because obviously you want a call if you only min raised.

call it down like you are trying to fill while being wary of him filling flushes and str8's...if one looks like its forming then reraise but by an amount not giving him value to call

People think they are being cute with min raises but all they do is draw attention. Unless you are doing some wierd bluff I would suggest removing min raises from your repetoire.

I agree with the sentiment here but then again there's always exceptions if you think your opponent is very poor loose or a complete maniac then the min-raise can work perfectly... so I would say to remove it from your normal repetoire but heh keep it in some cupboard to take out in the right circumstance

Tomotronic

In situations like this i like to raise big on the flop. Just calling serves not much; a good player would check the turn (if he missed the turn) and then the action is on you. If you bet the turn, he folds unless he might have a draw or so. So no extra value for you here.
When raising the flop however many people call if they have at least something, this is where you can make money. Even better if he has an overpair, most people are unable to let them go. If they fold to your flop raise, fine. They wouldn't have called any bets later anyway, unless they completed a nut draw on a later street.

Scouser in Dub

I agree with the comments regarding min raise pre flop but with the blinds so low and average stack = 72 bb's my thinking was that 6xBB was not enough to discourage the looser players at the table from seeing a flop cheaply

I thought post flop that he obviously had something, quite possibly a higher pair and any over card to a 9 could hurt me

I did think as soon as he folded that I should have just called