Indigo Children

6th

Found this article interesting:

July 24, 2006 — Sandie Bershad says she's always felt different than other kids and generally prefers the company of adults.

At age 12, Sandie, now 17, says she went into a deep, two-year depression because she felt that no one understood her.

She was treated for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder with medication, but as she grew up, she said, she realized that she had special gifts and abilities, including the ability to see angels and hear voices.

"I see dead people. I see my grandmother. She visits me all the time," Sandie said. "I have always been visited by spirits. For the past two years, I have been on a spiritual path, and I have come to help a lot of people with my psychic abilities."

Sandie is one of the so-called "indigo children" — named for the blue aura some say they see surrounding them.

Indigo children are described as highly accomplished, deeply spiritual, and gifted with psychic abilities.

As with most paranormal experiences, this is more about faith than science. For parents Tammy and Aaren Glover, their children are the proof.

"All three of the older children remember vividly previous lifetimes that they have had," Tammy Glover said. "And Maielaya, for example, lives in lucid, vivid memory of being my mother."

They often talk about speaking with God, angels, or people who have died. Believers say indigo children are often rebellious to authority, nonconformist, extremely emotional, and sometimes physically sensitive or fragile.

"Indigo children have access to human experience at a larger level, at a greater depth than most people do," said Neale Donald Walsch, author of "Conversations With God."

Most have piercing blue eyes — though Sandie does not. Skeptics, however, believe these children may be autistic, have attention deficit disorder, or suffer from some other behavior disorder.

"No rigorous scientific tests have proven the existence of these so-called paranormal gifts," said psychology professor David Stein.

However, Marjie Bershad, Sandie's mother, says she knew her daughter was different "in utero."

"There was always something different about her — more adult, more focused," Marjie Bershad said.

"She was a force to be reckoned with," said Sandie's father, Tom Bershad. "She never acted like a child. She was sophisticated and in charge. It's the same with other indigo kids."

When Sandie was 2, she told her mother that she had chosen her and her father to be her parents.

About 10 years later, Sandie told her mother that before she was born, her maternal grandfather, who had died when Marjie was 1, had helped her choose her parents.

Sandie said her most memorable experience was when her friend's recently deceased father appeared to her.

"I called my friend and she was crying — had no idea this could have happened to her and her father. I described what he looked like and she's like, 'Oh, my God. That's my dad,' Sandie said. "He contacted me so I could give messages to her family and her friends."

Sandie said that the father had revealed some private things to her that no one could know about his marriage.

"I had to keep that back for a while because I didn't want to say anything when he first died," she said.

Sandie says she can do an accurate reading of a person and tell what is troubling them and often advise them on how to fix it.

"I feel totally surrounded by their feelings, embodied by them," she said. "It's kind of like a trance. I zero in on only the person and myself. Sometimes it's very intense because the person will develop an attachment to me because they feel like I'm the only person who truly understands them. They ask me for advice, so I'll offer options and choices rather than just tell them what to do."

She has even helped her father with problems he has had at work.

"I talked to Sandie about it, and she was able to give me real insight into the situation," he said. "She also told me about an employee doing something not quite right, and I was able to handle the problem."

Some say as many as 90 percent of all children have indigo traits.

Sandie believes that all people share her ability and can unlock it if they are open to being mentored by an indigo.

She is happy that she has discovered her gift, after being misunderstood for so long.

"A new world opened up to me," she said. "I felt someone finally understood me and helped open other spiritual realms for me and develop my gifts. I started channeling other people. I felt really in tune."

6th

More on Indigo children:

Who exactly are these indigo children? There is a generation of children that started arriving in the 1970's that are extraordinarily different from the considered norm and labels our society has created.

http://www.thechildrenofthestars.com/index.htm

6th

Actually the more i read this the more it worries me, and this is me speaking as someone who'd had some experiences.

These special children are usually labeled ADD or ADHD because of their extremely high nervous system. This nervous system is a result of vibrating at a higher vibration then most humans. So to a "normal person," it would seem that the indigo is hyper or out of control.

This might not be the case with all indigo children. It could have an adverse affect. Qualities of depression, suicidal behaviors, bi polarity, and many other psychological problems could develop if these children aren't encouraged to be who they are and connected with their life purposes.

http://www.thechildrenofthestars.com/theindigochildren.htm

ladybirdirl

Hey there,

Have seen this somewhere else recently

Doreen Virtue (who does a lot about angel therapy and all that) has a big belief in this - I think her site is angeltherapy.com

Sounds a bit sad to me that anything different gets labelled as ADHD

Ladybird

6th

Yes but there is the other side that some conditions may become labelled as gifts of the reasons for them be seen to be paranormal. We have to remember that conditions like skitzopherinia (spelling) where once thought to be demon possession and such. I understand that that is a very negative example and fully believe that there are people, children included, who have psychic abilities but is saying that conditions like ADHD and ADD are just signs that these children need to be "tutored" irresponsible?

6th

This is not a debate on children with these conditions, I am merely pointing out an element of the article that did concern me.

On the topic of Indigo Children, I know i've met children and young adults that had "something" about them. These are normal children that just have a different vib.

Nevyn

I think there is somthing about certain children and there seems to be a lot of them about but I think 'indigo child" is being bandied about too much and had been hyped and is being used as a scapegoat.

Riamfada

Actually half jokingly I thought I was an indigo child at the start of the year. Went and researched it and all. Dont have much to add to the discussion other that i began introducing myself to people as "Graham the Indigo child" . The looks I got, but I could see them coming.

ladybirdirl

6th,

I see your point but given that we finally managed to move away from labelling people who are in the grips of mental illness as "posessed" I think it would really be a shame to label indigo kids as ADHD just because it suits the medical fraternity!

Having said that I do also agree that the term does seem to be the buzz word of the hour.

Ladybird

stormkeeper

I can identify with a lot of that, most notably the "being different" and the piercing eyes... the being different definately popped up as a child.


What does it mean about a "high nervous system"?

6th

Thaedydal wrote:

I think there is somthing about certain children and there seems to be a lot of them about but I think 'indigo child" is being bandied about too much and had been hyped and is being used as a scapegoat.

I completely agree, unfortunately there will always be popular terms, they can be damaging as the term comes to mean more than the child itself.

ladybirdirl wrote:

I think it would really be a shame to label indigo kids as ADHD just because it suits the medical fraternity!

But is it a case of labeling indigo kids as ADHD or labeling ADHD as indigo kids?

Kennett wrote:

I can identify with a lot of that, most notably the "being different"

In fairness what kid when looked at isnt different? Its only if we generalise do kids fit into boxes like "normal" etc., to say some kids are different is to say the rest are all the same.

What we are talking about here really is these children who are said to have noteably blue auras and a certain "knowing" or maturity about them that some would say comes with having an old soul or a high degree of psychcic awareness.

stormkeeper

6th wrote:

In fairness what kid when looked at isnt different? Its only if we generalise do kids fit into boxes like "normal" etc., to say some kids are different is to say the rest are all the same.

I was picked on for being different to the other kids... my mum told me that I came home crying one day because I didn't want to be "different", so obviously I wasn't normal compared to the rest...

6th

Thats when you look at the rest from your point of view, each one of those kids went home with their own problems at times i'm sure. Surely you cant say that each one of those kids in your school were all the same?

I'm not saying for a second that you didnt have "something" about you which made you stand out in some respects but my point is how do we recognoise these children of potential unless we are them or part of their family circle?

To say someone isnt one based on little or no knowledge is very closed minded.

6th

From reading up on Indigo Children, they seem to be being told that they are a special group and sectioned off (by adults).

Throwing labels out there is a bad idea but its even worse when its kids, their minds will be shaped by the ideas put in their heads. Sure nurture them and help them to develope spiritually and as people but not at the cost of alienating them and those that arent as "special".

Surely we should let kids be kids?

Nevyn

Kids should be kids but yes there are a lot of old heads on young shoulders and the numbers seem to be increasing and treating a wide, wise and mature 15 to 17 year old like they are a child when they are a young adult is going to cause a lot of problems.

6th

Thaedydal wrote:

Kids should be kids but yes there are a lot of old heads on young shoulders and the numbers seem to be increasing and treating a wide, wise and mature 15 to 17 year old like they are a child when they are a young adult is going to cause a lot of problems.

I agree it would coz problems which is why i'm not suggesting it should be done. My problem is singling some children out (some as young as 8 and 9) and telling them that they are "different from other kids" and "special". There are better ways to handle it than throughing them up in front of the media.

I'm not saying this is always the case but sometimes its like the parent is living it out through the kid, like you see when pushy parents "encourage" their children, burning them out in the process.

As parents the best we can do for our children is provide a safe, healthy and supportive enviroment for our children. Feeding and caring for their spiritual and personal development.

I have absolutely no problem with recognising children with these qualities which may lead them to be called indigo children, my problem is when they begin to say that ADHD and other conditions are not medicle/psychologic problems but indicators or psychic ability and are then treated as such. Are authism and dyslexia to be considered in this way also?

Nevyn

Authism no.
As for dyslexia I have my own ideas about that due to my own difficulties and those that I know.

6th

So would you say there is a rise in children who are more psychically aware than say 10/20 years ago? Or is it that the area is more popular now (gets more media attention) and therefore people are either noticing more or jumpin on the bandwagon?

ladybirdirl

Got ya 6th,

I see where you're coming from and you're right. More important than labels or the debate as to are they/are they not special is as you say the fact that they need to be allowed be children

Nevyn

6th wrote:

So would you say there is a rise in children who are more psychically aware than say 10/20 years ago? Or is it that the area is more popular now (gets more media attention) and therefore people are either noticing more or jumpin on the bandwagon?

I think it is a combination of more old heads on young sholders,
having the time to think and develope that side of ourselves and
we don't restrict children and tell them not do day dream ect.

6th

So an increase in freedom of thought is partially responsible for this surge in Indigo Children? I'd buy that.

Would love to know if anyone else has any ideas as to why now there seems to be an increase .... it is the age of aquarias after all

stevenmu

Indigo children was one of the first paranormal things I came across back when I started looking into the whole area. I bought into it in a big way at first, believing myself to be an indigo, but I got a bit put off by the way many seem to look at it. Americans in particular, but it is spreading, seem to be desperate to label their little darlings with anything that'll explain away any bad behaviour and give them an excuse to avoid any real parenting. It's kind of the same with ADD, and the two are often interlinked, in that many parents would prefer to have their children labelled and stuffed full of drugs instead of just accepting that kids aren't perfect and sometimes need to be disciplined.

6th wrote:

So an increase in freedom of thought is partially responsible for this surge in Indigo Children? I'd buy that.

Would love to know if anyone else has any ideas as to why now there seems to be an increase .... it is the age of aquarias after all

The age of aquarius does seem to be central to the whole idea (altough I thought it didn't start till 2012 ?). The idea seems to be that the age of aquarius will lead to an evolutionary leap in the human race, and the indigo children are an intermediate step on this path. The coming of the age of aquarius will see mankind's energy/vibrations raised to new levels, long lost spiritual knowledge and abilities will be rediscovered and relearnt, and our DNA will change to support all this. Indigo children are supposedly here to help prepare the world for, and help facilitate the transition.

Metagifted.org Indigo Index
Metagifted.org Crystal Children (the next step)
Great Dreams - Indigo
Crystalinks article (quite well balanced)
And another

El_mariachi

aren't there supposed to be telekinentic too?

6th

El_mariachi wrote:

aren't there supposed to be telekinentic too?

I'm not sure i understand this question but it seems like you are assuming that these indigo children and people with telekinetic abilities wold be mutually exclusive?

The suggested heightened psychical awareness of these "indigo children" would manifest itself in many ways, not limited to telepathy, telekenisis etc.

El_mariachi

yeah... i rememeber reading a book... which i am looking for again round my house which says that indigo children show strong control of telekentic powers and can develop these skills easly....

Zillah

El_mariachi wrote:

yeah... i rememeber reading a book... which i am looking for again round my house which says that indigo children show strong control of telekentic powers and can develop these skills easly....

I'd love to see a demonstration of these powers they so easily develop. If they can show them then theres a million dollars in it for them from the James Randi Foundation.

6th

Zillah wrote:

I'd love to see a demonstration of these powers they so easily develop. If they can show them then theres a million dollars in it for them from the James Randi Foundation.

Well then why not contact one of the groups i the states and ask? They seem like a friendly bunch. Of course they may not be bothered about providing proof or the $1m, some people would say its a cop out but even if someone could levitate a chair on command why bother to go proof it - fame, money? Thats not important to some people.

Zillah

I suppose its possible. But isn't there a lot of publicity about the Indigos? Aren't there lots of people eager to share the revelation, find more indigos, change the world and all that?

Going on national TV and having James Randi attest that you do indeed possess telekeinsis would certainly be a good way of spreading knowledge of Indigos.

CodeMonkey

6th wrote:

but even if someone could levitate a chair on command why bother to go proof it - fame, money? Thats not important to some people.

Surely at least one person who really do have paranormal abilities wants to:

• show the sceptics and the world that they do have abilities
• show that they're not crazy
• show that they are right
• be rich and famous
• save humanity with their special powers by first demonstrating their abilities

Zillah

Teach them to others?

Oryx

Zillah wrote:

Teach them to others?

People do that all the time. Whether you believe they actually can is up to you.

CodeMonkey wrote:

save humanity with their special powers by first demonstrating their abilities

I know youre being facetious, but if youve got a god complex, youre probably already on tv.

It seems that anytime the issue of proof gets discussed here, the James Randi million bucks thing gets dangled like a carrot. As if to say, well you cant all be the real deal, you havent claimed the money! Is there nothing else out there but JR that skeptics will accept?

And, yes some psychics are fakes. Just like some ebay sellers are fakes. And some rolex watches are fakes. For those that believe they are psychic, perhaps they feel they cant jump thru JRs hoops, nor want to. It may seem like an easy cop out, but this kind of ability is not fixed and available on demand. For those who say it is, see 'fakes' above. :rolleyes:

Zillah

KatieK wrote:

It seems that anytime the issue of proof gets discussed here, the James Randi million bucks thing gets dangled like a carrot. As if to say, well you cant all be the real deal, you havent claimed the money! Is there nothing else out there but JR that skeptics will accept?

We're talking about what people claim to be a huge amount of people who can easily develop telekinetic powers. I'd accept a demonstration, a clear and honest video, anything that shows they have these powers. The James Randi thing is simply a very compelling and well known example.

"Psychic" powers are all well and good, they're hard to prove or disprove given their vague and subjective nature. But we're talking about people making stuff move with their mind. Thats X-Men quality stuff. There's a ruckuss if a child in India claims to be the Buddha, if a girl can see through people, if a man in France can fly, and everytime they're investigated its either inconclusive or plain false.

Which is why I'm very sceptical about an entire legion of people who apparently easily learn telekinesis. Its seems entirely unfeasible that at least one wouldn't have been snapped up and proven by any one of thousands of parapsychologist who have dedicated their lives to finding even a single example of such a thing.

Oryx

I agree with some of the points made about indigos earlier. It seems to be a popular label to apply to children who are, or seem, different. All kids are different, and Im sure the majority feel alienated at some stage. Kids may be born with increased psychic ability, and its nice to think it could be encouraged rather than conditioned out of them. But the indigo thing seems an unnecessary label.

Zillah wrote:

Which is why I'm very sceptical about an entire legion of people who apparently easily learn telekinesis

I agree with you. I dont think anyone can easily learn telekinesis. If they could, pianos would be flying overhead as we speak.

Zillah wrote:

at least one wouldn't have been snapped up and proven by any one of thousands of parapsychologist who have dedicated their lives to finding even a single example of such a thing.

Are there really thousands of parapsychologists dedicating their lives to finding one instance of such a thing? And if they are failing, is that because its not there, or because noone will believe them when they produce evidence? I dont make a study of this kind of thing, but I have heard mention here of various investigations that do publish results, and are then roundly criticised.

In general, I think psychic ability has become more mainstream and popular. You can see the evidence of that on satelite tv. Is this purely a fashion fad, that leads to ordinary kids labelled as indigo, or we really are entering the age of aquarius, or is it that we are learning to accept abilities that were always there but we were brought up not to recognise?

stevenmu

Tbh, I've read a lot about indigos in the past and this is the first I've heard about some kind of advanced telekinesis ability. From what I've read, indigos have more or less the same abilities, or lack thereof, as everyone else. The difference is really only in how likely a person is to have a natural predisposition towards psychic abilities. Just picking numbers off the top of my head, let's say 1 out of every 100 non-indigos naturally develops one or more psychic abilities, but say 1 out of every 20 indigos do. I haven't seen much to indicate that indigos would develop abilities that others don't, or develop them to any more of a signifigant degree, just that indigos are numerically more likely to develop some ability.

There are some stronger claims like the super psychic kids of china/russia and of people with a different form of DNA and immunity to AIDS, cancer etc (linky) but I'm not sure how much faith to place in them.

Zillah

KatieK wrote:

I dont make a study of this kind of thing, but I have heard mention here of various investigations that do publish results, and are then roundly criticised.

If they do genuine tests using scientific methods and submit it for peer review, there is no way it would simply be ignored. If "investigations" are roundly criticised then I think that says a lot about these investigations. If they were up to the quality of other research then they have no reason to be rejected. Scientists aren't anti-telekinesis. Most would love if such a thing existed, but unless it can be proven (which should be very very easy to do given the nature of such a power) they can't accept it.

Theres no choice here, its either proven with the scientific method or it isn't.

or is it that we are learning to accept abilities that were always there but we were brought up not to recognise?

But what makes these abilities special? Why would they reject studies that proved telekinesis but accept a study that shows an strange aspect of the human immune system?

If people can move something with their mind, thats absurdly easy to document and record. Any parapsychologist would make their career, fame, millions and historical legacy with such a thing. And we just don't see that happening. I am completely unconvinced that any human being can move objects with their mind alone, and certainly not to the extent where an entire legion of children can do it. It just doesn't make sense, there is no reason for people to reject proof of telekinesis if its out there.

god's toy

I'm so surprised, I never dreamed I would see the day that a Indigo thread would be on boards.ie more than 5 minutes before being slammed down backward thinking closed minded people. In times gone past it was a hide and seek thing on the net, you kept in tight groups never really saying anything to anyone outside about what's going on the inside, maybe we are morning on after all...


I know I leave myself so open for abuse for even saying this but the sings have been popping up up for some time now and this is a big change, you can feel it.

Zillah

god's toy wrote:

you can feel it.

No, you can feel it, apparently. You can't go around dismissing people as closeminded just because they don't agree with you.

Nevyn

Hi god's toy, yes things have certainly changed esp in this country over the last 10 years.

/me thinks happy toughts and send warm fluffies Zillah's way.

Zillah

I'm all full of fluffies thank you. Surely if anyone needs such efforts its god's way with his/her "backward thinking closed minded people" rant?

god's toy

sorry, did you say something ?




Ok then so I'm wrong...apparently

Nevyn

Zillah now see the first post wasn't that bad but I have had to report that last one and really your are getting stroppy.

god's toy is right that it has been very hard to disscus certain topics and it is not that long ago that these types of disscusion just were not tolerated and those who wished to have them were called crack pots.

So we have crack pots on oneside and close minded people on the other, and
the believers and the skeptics in the middle.

Name calling does harm to bothsides.
God's toy is right there was a time even on boards this forum and some of the others would have been hopped on and hounded by the cs kiddies,
Zillah is also right that it is rude to call people who believe differntly as backwards thinking closed minded people.

Really live and let live and I am greatful we can have disscusions about such things.

stevenmu

Yes, things are getting a little stroppy. Try to keep things friendly people, we're all ultimately on the same side after all (apart from the crack-pots and cynics of course).

Thaedydal sums it up well

God's toy is right there was a time even on boards this forum and some of the others would have been hopped on and hounded by the cs kiddies,
Zillah is also right that it is rude to call people who believe differntly as backwards thinking closed minded people.

Zillah, there's no need to take the mention of closed-mindedness as some kind of personal insult, it is fair to say that on most of the forums around boards any discussion of this kind of thing would be shot down like a lead balloon by cynicism (am I mixing metaphors there ? how exactly could one shoot down a lead balloon ?). At this stage I think we've all seen you criticise psuedo-scientific cynicism just as harshly, in fact probably even more harshly, as you would some paranormal claims, which is a pretty good sign of open-mindedness. And God's Toy, while you do have a point, discussing this topic in most areas of boards would lead to much laughter and derision, this forum exists for people who are open to such ideas to discuss them. There will be the odd cynic who'll wander in to take the piss out people, but they'll get banned fairly quick, and there will be questions asked of anyone making strong definitive claims, in particular when they try to use science to back them up, but in general we're a fairly open minded bunch willing to discuss things reasonably whether we actually fully believe and accept them or not.

We have actually had discussions about indigos before, this being probably the most noteworthy

Zillah

stevenmu wrote:

Zillah, there's no need to take the mention of closed-mindedness as some kind of personal insult

Whether its directed at me, or others in this thread, neither is fair to do. I don't think anyone has been rude or cynical. God's toy attacked people for not sharing the same opinion, which I think is something most people would see as unfair. Being a subscriber to the often-derided opinion doesn't give you liberty to cry "derision!!!" everytime someone says "Hmm, that doesn't make sense to me."

(EDIT: Oh crap batman I misinterpreted the first post! My apoligies god's toy. I thought the post was saying "can't a thread on indigos last more than five minutes!" instead of "Oh wow, it did last more than five minutes!)

At this stage I think we've all seen you criticise psuedo-scientific cynicism just as harshly, in fact probably even more harshly, as you would some paranormal claims, which is a pretty good sign of open-mindedness.

Flattery will get you everywhere. Well...not everywhere...

We have actually had discussions about indigos before, this being probably the most noteworthy

Its popped up plenty of times over the years.

mysticshrimp

Hi,

agree with the ADD and ADHD being worrying I work with Indigos and all kinds of other psychic kids all over the world. This seems to be a label for anything that doctors don't understand, and just medicate to solve something that is way over their heads in terms of understanding. What kind of experiences did you have as a child? My second oldest boy is like the sixth sense and often have to block stuff from coming to him.

Mysticshrimp

mysticshrimp

Hi,

this is just a buzz word. I work with psychic kids all over the world and they don't like that label. The world has got stuck on this word but they have no idea of the gifts these kids posses. They are telepathic, speak freely with their spirit guides and so much more. They are all trying to improve conditions on the planet and really have some amazing views on what they see the world as. They are much more than kids that have behavioural problems. They are very frustrated by adults who have no respect for thw world they live in.

Mystic shrimp

mysticshrimp

Zillah wrote:

I'd love to see a demonstration of these powers they so easily develop. If they can show them then theres a million dollars in it for them from the James Randi Foundation.

why should they have to show the gifts to someone like that? so that they can be treated like freaks? thats what is wrong with the world they only want to turn these special kids into a sideshow. they feel depressed enough with the attitude of the world, why should they need to prove something that they are given as a gift. The world needs to try to become more spiritualy in touch with itself and start to cop on!!!