Cities... should we have new ones?

Saruman

As i understand it.. excluding Northern Ireland which is a different country to us so does not count.... we have 7 cities in this country.
Dublin
Galway
Limerick
Kilkenny
Waterford
Cork
Sligo (yes i know :eek: )

Thats not a lot... thing is... some of these cities.. like the newest one.. sligo.. and oldest one (maybe) Kilkenny are tiny..
There are large towns like Mullingar, Athlone, Tullamore etc etc that are pretty damn big!! Athlone and Mullingar have about 35000 people in the surrounding areas each.

I may be wrong.. on figures but either way these are large towns and should be.. could be considered cities! There are cities all over the US that have smaller populations.

Cities get more investment.. so its better for the town to be considered a city.

Anyone else agree?

Gone West

yes.
I hate to make this comparrison, I really do... but in the USA towns with 15k people are considered cities.

Athlone, Tralee and possibly letterkenny should be considered cities IMO.
I think there may be some archaic law saying that a town must have a cathedral or some shít to be considered a city though...
Athlone has one, dunno about the rest.

constitutionus

yup i agree, but how do you get designated city status. after all i come from a small village called tallaght with a minute 100thousand plus population and we only got upgraded to "town"

WhiteWashMan

no offence, but theres one city and lot of regional towns.

anyway, stick on in mayo;. i dont think anything interesting has happened there in years.

oh, except the swindled me out of a tenner at the departure gates of knock airport.
cúnts.

FX Meister

Kilkenny is not a city, when are people going to realise that?

emeraldstar

sligo is a city??!!! since when??? :eek:

wasn't there talks years ago of taking away Kilkenny's city status? There was a bit of uproar though.... or did they actually take it away and then give it back?? Lol i can't remember!!

JaysusMacfeck

Shouldn't Bray be given city status? It appears to be swelling at a terrible rate like a pissed on wart.

Anyway, Irish 'cities' are just small towns compared to most cities in Europe.

Saruman

FX Meister wrote:

Kilkenny is not a city, when are people going to realise that?

Eh.. says you?? Kilkenny is a city.. Oficially... Many large towns like Mullingar, Naas, Navan etc have larger populations but its still a city.
Forget the fact modern cities have larger populations than in the past... centuries ago Kilkenny was considered a city so it still should be.

Part of the reason i say give us more of them

There might be some cathederal law.. though Athlone does not have one.. think its just a church.., Mullingar does though... hell Cobh has one.. lets call that a city

I do not think there is any set rules for city status... maybe we should do what england did and hold a vote.. Brighton won the last one

Yes sligo is a city it seems.. noticed last year when i visited.... signs saying Gateway city or something like that. Was confused by that but after some checking seems it was given city status. At least thats what people on boards said when i asked the Question.. maybe they were from sligo

Gone West

JaysusMacfeck wrote:

Shouldn't Bray be given city status? It appears to be swelling at a terrible rate like a pissed on wart.

Anyway, Irish 'cities' are just small towns compared to most cities in Europe.

actually, if you talk to most people from Europe, they will consider those towns to be cities.
Yes there are larger cities in Europe, but even smaller towns than say Athlone or Mullingar or Naas are officially designated cities. It helps the town economy a LOT.

Terry

in the future all villages will becoime cities because of the population swelling.
until then we can only hope of generating oxygen and a greenhouse effect on mars.

Madge

why are people surprised Sligo is a city? Its a pretty large place now. It has alot of the big name retailers. It's the key commercial area of the N.West of Ireland. Many small towns within the county, such as Tubbercurry, are growing fast

But it isn't a city, is it? Has it become a city since I left school? It probably has, I don't know.
What do Boardsers know anyway Saruman.

Edit: According to Wiki, it's still a town, but I don't know when that page was last edited.

TomCo

I think we should all give up this city life and return to nature.
Lets live in the forest with pinecone computers and squirrel based internet.

monkeyfudge

Saruman wrote:

Yes sligo is a city it seems.. noticed last year when i visited.... signs saying Gateway city or something like that. Was confused by that but after some checking seems it was given city status. At least thats what people on boards said when i asked the Question.. maybe they were from sligo

I thought the Borough Council just had aspirations of city status... I don't recall this city status ever actually been ratified.

Terry

lucan has about 40,000 people, but it's just a suburb.
calm down. your little hometown will get city status eventually.

bug your politician about it.

speaking of which.
i had a dream the other night and bertie was laughing because all the country politicians were giving him stick about being a dub and he was drinking in a pub in dunboyne co. meath. i don't know what significance that has, but it was quite vivid and funnyt to me.

eamoss

Dundalk has 30 urban pop & another 30 in the surrounding area so 60,000 all together.

Dundalk has been fighting for years now to get city status!

Black Swan

Does this OP address just how cities are defined in terms of population size, and the benefits of being labeled a city? If so, just wondering if a better forum would be under Soc-Politics?

Terry

eamoss wrote:

Dundalk has 30 urban pop & another 30 in the surrounding area so 60,000 all together.

Dundalk has been fighting for years now to get city status!

that's all well and good, but dundalk is a kip that nobody cares about.

TomTom

Lucan and tallaght both live bit the stigma of their prominity to dublin so I do not think they will ever become cities. I think they will always be looked upon as suburbs of dublin.

I think there are requirments for a town to become a city. Something like being the seat of lcounty government, have a third level institution and a cathedrel (thats being removed i thin). Also population has to be at a certain level.

Both Tullamore and mullingar have a town population of 15000 but the regional areas drive it up. I think Athlone will be the next city due to its expansion (even if i do think its a kip) and its location as there is no city in the midlands.

Many many things have been talked about in the past from memory to help things get up in the world, like an airstrip outside athlone and charlivlle castle in tullamore being credited as a college.

mysterious

I heard that 50,000 is the majick number to aquire city status, or well Europe anyway, If Limerick does not get it's boundary or Cork for that matter we could be really losing out in the next two census.. Btw I had a poll up there to get an opinion, on the population issue in this census on Limerick....

Terry

WWM locked it for a laugh.

magick

perhaps we should have a new city and put parts of the old citys name in it like Dugalikowacogo

Pigman II

I think it's from my atlas readin' geography days of something but I've always only ever considered a place with 100,000+ to be a 'city'. Anything else is just measuring your height in a pair of platform boots.

mysterious

julep wrote:

WWM locked it for a laugh.

Sure in that case he should do it all the time.......... I mean there would be madness, but I can see the funny side to it.

Terry

i'm gonna get in trouble tonight.

i was just kidding with thast remark. it was sort of a joke at your expence, but at his too.
i thought it was funny, but i have an odd sence of humour.

gary the great

Didnt Tallaght apply to be a city a while ago and it got refused? I remember reading it in the Tallaght Echo.

TBH out of everywhere listed, Tallaght should be a city...has anyone been around the square lately its like New York with all the high rise apartments (well its a bit of an exaggeration!), but other than that it has everything needed bar a cathedral and sure the priory is fairly close!

Patricide

Yea, tallagh and tralee should be citys id love to see the minimum requirements to become a city though.

I mean tralee deffinatly has enough scumbags, pavees and poor healthcare, arent theese traits of a city usually?

lazylad

stop whining, enjoy our cities.