shame on us?

white studs

I was reading the thread about the 2 men killed in Spain and it’s a terrible pity to see 2 young men killed in such a horrific manner. Maybe they deserved it, an eye for an eye, but in saying that so lightly it made me think about how in about a month no one will remember that thread. Violence is glorified to the extent that the novelty has worn off on it now, it’s just there now. We don’t even get shocked at the stories we read in the paper or the stories people tell us of a typical Saturday night in town.
Were did these malicious and very skilled people come from? Who or what motivates them? We can’t blame drugs on it all because there are people my age and younger who have brutally beaten and killed people.
I know I probable sound weird but i'm 17 and I can see the problem in this country why the hell can't anyone else I fear for the world my children will be forced to live in.
I want to know why every1 is turning a blind eye to this extremely important issue...

Chucky the tree

thats it. Lets open up another thread about it so we can read through the same 6 pages of ****e.

monkeyfudge

Vicious criminal thugs have always been killing other vicious criminal thugs... it's nothing new to the human race.

Terry

let them wipe each other out. they're of no use to anyone.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Exactly, if it was someone you knew who was killed by them you wouldnt feel so bad hearing about them being murdered...

Shoot them all and let god sort it out....

monkeyfudge

But God is dead too... he was gunned down in a brutal gangland shooting near my house recently.

One tsunami too many if you ask me... good riddance.

Sonnenblumen

Very well put White Studs, you've made several key points which will probably be overlooked by many. Understandably few appear to have sympathy for the victims, but more worryingly most are increasingly becoming less shocked by the regularity or the degree of violence and killing now taking place.

Numbed by frequency and cold by nature, the general public offer little hope for an end. When we turn our backs and discount the value of human life no matter how wayward it has been is a failure and to ignore it, will come back to haunt us. I admire your inciteful fear for the future, but I would not be too pesimistic although the diehards and reactionary comments might make you think otherwise.

A changing Ireland, threadmilled for self indulgent infatuation with declining awareness for others and property is a major root of much of our problems.

S.

Terry

Sonnenblumen wrote:

Very well put White Studs, you've made several key points which will probably be overlooked by many. Understandably few appear to have sympathy for the victims, but more worryingly most are increasingly becoming less shocked by the regularity or the degree of violence and killing now taking place.

Numbed by frequency and cold by nature, the general public offer little hope for an end. When we turn our backs and discount the value of human life no matter how wayward it has been is a failure and to ignore it, will come back to haunt us. I admire your inciteful fear for the future, but I would not be too pesimistic although the diehards and reactionary comments might make you think otherwise.

A changing Ireland, threadmilled for self indulgent infatuation with declining awareness for others and property is a major root of much of our problems.

S.

when you grow up listening to news reports about people being killed every day by the 'ra, then you become accustomed to it.

white studs is 17. he didn't experience that. it was mostly over when he was a kid, so this is all new to him.

the fact of the matter is that people who live by the sword will die by the sword. some innocent people will get caught in the crossfire, but that's just a fact of life.

get a helmet.

monkeyfudge

But what about when the victims aren't just victims, but perpetrators?

I certainly don't believe in a death penalty, but I'm not going to be terribly upset when someone who quite clearly has very little regard for human life ends up dead.

I was pretty unhappy when a young single mother across the road from where I work was randomly shot dead recently.... I was substantaily less perturbed when the person who most likely killed her wound up dead a few days later purely as a result of his own wrecthed lifestyle.

ThrownAway

white studs wrote:

Maybe they deserved it, an eye for an eye

Nobody deserves to die... no matter who they are or what they have done.

Terry

that may be true, but the world is a better off place without some people.

ThrownAway

Yeah better off in jail

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julep wrote:

when you grow up listening to news reports about people being killed every day by the 'ra, then you become accustomed to it.

try and be a bit more melodramatic...

how are you getting on now... must be hard listing to the news with all that's happening out in the middle east now....

Drax

Sonnenblumen wrote:

A changing Ireland, threadmilled for self indulgent infatuation with declining awareness for others and property is a major root of much of our problems.

Beautifully put. I couldnt have said it better myself.

Archeron

I'm not pleased to see anyone die a violent death, but if we're going to start mourning the loss of Irelands innocence, then perhaps this is not the best example of it.

Okay, many will say those dudes deserve it, and I get the impression that you mourn the fact that those people can be so callous. On the other hand, should it not be shame on us for all the other killings happening in the world that so many dont seem to give a damn about? Lebanon is being systematically destroyed (again) as we speak (another thread I know, sorry for off topic subject) and not too many people seem to be overly upset about that, so shame on us and the rest of the world for that perhaps?? I find the deaths of innocents a lot harder to deal with that the deaths of criminals.

You're right that no-one will remember in a week those crims who died, but in fairness, the lives they lived is hardly going to cause us to think about them for long when there is so much more wrong in the world upon which we should be focusing our attentions.

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Archeron wrote:

I find the deaths of innocents a lot harder to deal with that the deaths of criminals.

according to America they are not innocent...they are all terrorist.
and that's what i find sad.