Texas Holdem vs 5 card draw

RichieLawlor

some muppet in my club is arguing that there is more skill in 5 card draw than there is in Texas Holdem
Can someone else please tell this guy how stupid he is

wayfarer

Hey! Muppet in Richie Lawlors club who thinks that there's more skill in 5 Card Draw than in the Cadillac of Poker, No-Limit Texas Hold'em, you're stupid!

phantom_lord

RichieLawlor wrote:

some muppet in my club is arguing that there is more skill in 5 card draw than there is in Texas Holdem
Can someone else please tell this guy how stupid he is

I finally got in on the home games my roommate and his friends were having one night locked from the pub, after cleaning them out that night, and the next, mid way through the next game they decieded that 5card, with one-eyed jacks and twos as wild was a more skilful game.

I left after my nut flush was beaten by five of a kind....a queen with four 2s.



On a side note, would you not call that as a royal flush?

phantom_lord

wayfarer wrote:

Hey! Muppet in Richie Lawlors club who thinks that there's more skill in 5 Card Draw than in the Cadillac of Poker, No-Limit Texas Hold'em, you're stupid!

Now lets sit and hope he reads boards...

spectre

phantom_lord wrote:

On a side note, would you not call that as a royal flush?

I think 5 of a kind beats a royal flush

NickyOD

I can't lose at 5 card draw so there must be more skill in it.

BigDragon

NickyOD wrote:

I can't lose at 5 card draw so there must be more skill in it.

If you think that head to Paradise poker.

luckylucky

RichieLawlor wrote:

some muppet in my club is arguing that there is more skill in 5 card draw than there is in Texas Holdem
Can someone else please tell this guy how stupid he is

There may be more skill involved in texas hold'em but the edge a good player has in 5 card draw is far far bigger I believe from what I have gathered. The luck factor in hold'em is what draws the fish in, there is less luck in draw, one of the big reasons why casinos are more keen to promote games like hold em which contain a lot of inbuilt luck.

Then again my days of playing 5 card draw downing pints etc etc was over 5 years ago b4 I became 'educated' about poker.

Anyways thats my opinion on it

Also I think it's a pity in a way that hold em has got such a stranglehold on the game - nice to see that draw is available on places like paradise - I have no idea what the standard there is like - but got a feeling u'd have to play different that u would do in ur local pub to beat da game let's put it that way , hopefully I'll get around to playing it again some time.

5starpool

Why should you care if someone disagreed with you OP? If someone refused to accept a point that I think is abvious as day then good luck to them.

Neither of them is as skillful as snap anyhow.

NickyOD

BigDragon wrote:

If you think that head to Paradise poker.

It's rigged.

Bandana boy

NickyOD wrote:

I can't lose at 5 card draw so there must be more skill in it.

i also cannot lose in 5 card poker
but the reason for this is abduntly clear
the guys who want to play 5 card against me tend to be players who "Don't get" Hold em
hence there is a massive edge in those games

i dont believe that there is a better edge in 5 card than hold em as a rule just a better edge against the current 5 card standards

Also i believe that the reasons why casinos prefer hold em to 5 card is not the luck factor but the speed/action factor

My 1/50th of a dollar

smurph

phantom_lord wrote:

I finally got in on the home games my roommate and his friends were having one night locked from the pub, after cleaning them out that night, and the next, mid way through the next game they decieded that 5card, with one-eyed jacks and twos as wild was a more skilful game.

I left after my nut flush was beaten by five of a kind....a queen with four 2s.



On a side note, would you not call that as a royal flush?

Ah my son, being that I learn't poker through playing 5 Card Draw, many strange versions of wild poker, one eyed jacks are wild, Royal flush in spades being wild, etc., etc.,

The nuts are changed in wild,
Ie. Flush, House, four of a kind, straight flush, royal flush and then the best hand is 5 of a kind.

So indeed the player had 5 queens the perverbial nuts.

I do think that texas holdem is a serious game os strategy positional play etc., but you can get away with some brillant bluffs in draw poker. Also with the different variations of the game, you can have some good games.

slegs

5 card draw blows

cardshark202

I learnt poker by playing 5 card draw first. I think all games are equally skilled in their own way. This does not include any versions of poker which include wild cards or disregard part of the deck. Those games are luckbox fests.

Hitman Actual

I think there's generally a bigger edge in draw, but the smaller edges in holdem are made up for by the fact that there's more betting rounds, so a bad player has more chances to make mistakes.

The "speed" comment always interests me though. A 7-handed 5-card draw game plays much faster than a ten-handed HE ring game, imo.

Scouser in Dub

cardshark202 wrote:

I learnt poker by playing 5 card draw first. I think all games are equally skilled in their own way. This does not include any versions of poker which include wild cards or disregard part of the deck. Those games are luckbox fests.

agree with the exception of a single joker which can only be used to make certain hands, thats not so much a luck box fest as merely altering the odds

interesting question posed by Caro in Super System that he says only Brunson got immediately demonstrates some of the rationale behind the 5 card game

MadsL

Triple draw lowball anyone?

Goodluck2me

5starpool wrote:

good luck to them.