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Ideal Diet

  • 16-07-2006 2:55pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭


    Well there's no food in the house (at all) and I'll have to do a big shop soon for the next week or two so I'd like to try the whole healthy eating thing for a while and see how I get on with it. Especially considering it'll work out cheaper than takeaways and such :)

    Basically I'll eat anything and I'm not allergic to anything, I've access to a juicer, I'm not afraid of trying something new (barring tofu) and I can cook simple enough things. I know it's a long shot but could someone suggest a day by day weekly meal plan of what I should be eating? I'm about 6"1 and 15 stone or so.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭jimi_t


    C'mon now, not even any recommendations or tips?

    Well if you want to break it down, I'd like to get my breakfast sorted out right as I'm told its the most important meal you eat. What should I have, boiled egg, porridge, muesli, fruit juice, fresh fruit, what?

    Also, I'd like to know how much and how frequently I should be eating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    You could try be specific!

    You want a diet to get big?

    You want a diet to loose weight?

    You want a diet to keep lean muscle and loose body fat?

    You want a diet to get a heart attack?

    There is no such thing as an ideal diet, just diets tailored to your needs. Identify your needs, then check the 100's of recently added posts to see if any of the dietsposted suit what your needs entail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Clive


    Pizza, beer and cardio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Post up your current diet so we can see what you like and then substitute them for healthier alternatives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Can I just point out all the stickies at the top of the forum?

    Maybe try giving them a read, and try having a search around google, and maybe try educating yourself just a small bit before going onto a board and basically asking for a complete diet to be handed to you.

    I have no problem helping anyone….who already seems to be trying to help themsevles though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Mo-Mo


    Posted by g'em in one of the stickies!
    g'em wrote:
    Ok, so one of the prevailing problems that crops up time after time on the forum is the question of eating right. Thing is, regardless of what your aim is - weight loss/ gain/ maintenance- we all require the same basic nutrients, minerals and dietary requirments. Putting it very simply, if you're looking to bulk, eat more, if you want to lose weight, eat less. But most importantly make sure you do not starve your body of what it needs and make all your calories come from healthy nutritional sources. There's a big difference between gaining 600 calories from a Big Mac and getting it from a balanced, nutritious meal. The general guidleines are that for weight training eat a 40% carb 40% protein 20% good fat diet, and for non- weight training athletes up the carbs to about 50-60%.

    So.. just to help out anyone who's a little stuck or confused about how they should be eating, or even how to provide themselves with the food they need, I've put together a basic 'shopping list' of good foods that should help you get on the right track. Hopefully others will add to this with other ideas about what are good foods to include and post hints and tricks for eating clean day to day.

    For the store cupboard- foods you should have on hand to make simple meals:
    brown rice/ pasta
    mixed dried herbs
    dried spices
    curry paste
    garlic
    tinned tomatoes (great for pasta sauces/ soups)
    packets of unsalted, plain nuts for adding to salads- sunflower, sesame, almonds, cashews
    extra virgin olive oil
    flax oil (probably have to get this in a health food shop)
    pulses- dry, bagged variety such as chickpeas, red kidney beans, lentils super easy to cook, high in protein and iron rich. Brilliant to add to salads, lentils are a fantastic base for soup. Try to buy dry instead of tinned/ pre-soaked which often have added salt.

    Fresh foods to buy- preferably organic or from a farmers market, as fresh as possible:
    fruit- all types, but include lots of 'easy to eat' fruit you can carry as a snack like apples, oranges, plums, peaches
    a great tip I heard recently was to freeze raspberries or grapes and eat them as a snack in the evenings for those 'in front of the tv and wanna eat' moments
    bananas are great post-workout but watch their high carb content
    all berries and citrus fruits are high in antioxidants and brilliant to add to natural yoghurt/ skim milk for smoothies
    vegetables- again, all types, especially broccoli, tomatoes, beans, mushrooms, carrots, cucumber, mangetout, onions, peas, spinach.
    lots of leafy salad leaves- lettuce, cabbage, spinach, watercress, rocket.
    sweetcorn and potatoes are great but high in carbs so consider this when adding them to a meal. Use new potatoes if possible, a lower starch content gives them a lower GI factor.

    Supermarket items:
    wholemeal pitta bread
    wholemeal/ seeded bread/ bagels
    Bulgar wheat/ cous cous
    tinned tuna- buy steaks in tins as opposed to chunks
    lean meat cuts, but particularly turkey/ chicken breasts and fillets
    salmon steaks (expensive but so good for you- wrap in a loss tin-foil parcel with lemon juice, a little oil and pepper and bake for 20 mins- yum!!)
    eggs
    porridge oats
    yoghurt- organic if possible, and live (bacteria-containing)
    milk (personally its skimmed for me to get all the vits, minerals and protein, none of the cals)
    cottage cheese
    honey
    peanut butter- you can buy it with nothing but 100% peanuts in it in health food shops, great for putting on corn cakes for snacks
    rice/ corn cakes
    baked beans- easy to eat snack, buy no-added sugar varieties.

    Try to make sure every meal you eat has equal amounts of carbs and protein (or higher in protein if you're lifting). Use fats and oils sparingly, but include a small amount at every meal.There's no real need to have butter/ salt/ sugar added to any meal, use herbs and spices to taste meats, and nuts to give a kick to salads. While you may hear about athletes surviving on very minimalist and extremely restricted diets, this sort of eating will not sustain you for everyday living. The 5-a-day rule for fruits and vegetables is vitally important, they are the easiest and healthiest way to obtain many of the vitamins our bodies need in order to function, as are the minerals found in meats and pulses. Ensure you get pently of calcium and vitamin C -two of the most frequently neglected nutrients in Irish diets, but if you really feel the need to supplement (which you shouldn't if you eat properly) try a probiotic multi-vitamin like multibionta. There's also a great book called 'Food for Fitness' which is aimed at healthy eating for athletes, but has hundreds of recipes that are super-easy and quick to prepare and suitable for everyone's daily diet.

    And of course there's the treats... For me, as a rule I don't keep any 'cheat foods' in the house. If its there, I'll eat it, simple as. This means that I have to actually plan to go out and buy cheat foods, so I'll make a conscious effort to treat myself with something that's not too sinful. It's often low-fat ice-cream or Green and Black's chocolate (I like to tell myself that all the flavenoids in the latter are really doing me lots of good ;) ). For others its a burger, or sweets or a take-away. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of badness, but try to maintain an 80% clean attitude to food, that way you can eat treats virtually guilt-free!

    When you make meals- if in doubt, just bung it all together, add a little seasoning and eat it!! That's how I've discovered most of my recipes (who knew that bulgar wheat, tuna, sweetcorn and spinach were so tasty together??!) As long as everything you put into it is good, there's nothing to lose. And above all else, enjoy what you eat. Cooking and eating shouldn't be a chore, and the more pleasure you get from eating the more it'll reinforce your healthy eating habits ;) Have fun!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    I started eating a bit healthier recently just do it gradually swap all your unhealthy things for better options. I hate cooking but I love those vegetables that you can steam cook in the microwave and microwave rice etc much healthier than stopping off at kfc at lunch!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Google food pyramid for a healthy diet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Google food pyramid for a healthy diet.

    Em.....not really. Far too much emphasis on grains, not enough on lean meats and and healthy fats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭jimi_t


    Sorry if I appeared to be asking for all the work to be done for me Dragan and co..

    Basically I'm looking for a decent, healthy diet. Good for heart, cholestorol, blood sugar (all of which are prevalant in my family) but also a diet that would facilitate the development of fat into lean muscle complimented with some light cardio and weights. I kind of a catch all, and with so many conflicting opinions (i.e. what kind of ratio to have protein and carbs in, are eggs good or bad, are dairy products good) I really don't know what to think.

    My general diet at the moment is something along the lines of two weetabix with milk and maybe 2 frankfurters or a yogurt in the morning. Lunch I'd have something like tuna, lean chicken or salami on brown soda bread with a small bit of mayo - no butter. I'd have a yoghurt with that as well, usually a yoplait natural yoghurt or hazelnut. I like things like those John West tinned sardines/tuna in oil which I think must be good enough for you because they're high in those Omega 3 oils. I'm also mad for pistachio nuts and sesame sticks/bombay mix but I doubt thats great for you - lot of salt and what not.

    I suppose the main thing I need to sort out is dinner - I tend to eat quite badly in the evening after work - usually just spaghetti and those dolmio microwavable tomato sauces which I often throw some tuna into, or I'd get one of those Ristorante pizzas, or I'd have a couple grilled rashers and sausages with scrambled eggs or oven chips and a chicken kiev. Something thats quick to cook basically.

    Also I'm drinking a prodiguous amount of beer which is probably a big culprit in terms of the gut - would moving to whiskey and coke make that much of a difference or do I have to submit myself to the horrors of drinking vodka?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Try something like Gin and Tonic, would be a lot better than the beers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Do you really want to look like a girls blouse though?


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