Women- do you like it?

Tha Gopher

Odd title I know, but it cant really be put into a title.

Basically, what the question is is do yis like it when you are, say, walking down the street and lads on the top deck of a bus knock on the window to get your attention, or builders whistle at you. Do you regard those who do this as a bunch of scumbags with no respect for women or do you smile to yourself and think "wow, Im hot!". If you never get whistled at/lads on the bus knockin at you, do you feel left out?

Best I saw was walking down Henry Street one afternoon, sunny day, great weather. Anyway, animal blonde bird walkin maybe 10 feet ahead of me, wearin a top and a sort of veil like dress thing through which you could see her arse and her dental floss thong as clear as day. So anyways, Im walkin along behind her like Father Ted after that author bird who stayed with him was telling him about how she used to jump on the husband and ride him right there in her porch (aye, you recall THAT scene ) and the bird ahead of me walks by a group of the Dutch Gold Appreciation Society, who proceed to drunkenly shout along the lines "ah yeah bitch!" "id spunk in your eyes" and such.

To which she looks back at them, ABSOLOUTELY DISGUSTED. Like, the fierce look she gave them, a sort of "show some respect!". As if she had expected to walk around town with her thong on show and not get lip? Hilarious

Mola.mola

Tha Gopher wrote:

As if she had expected to walk around town with her thong on show and not get lip? Hilarious

you're a sad sad man.

Heyes

Tha Gopher wrote:

To which she looks back at them, ABSOLOUTELY DISGUSTED. Like, the fierce look she gave them, a sort of "show some respect!". As if she had expected to walk around town with her thong on show and not get lip? Hilarious

She s absolutaly right, nobody should be spoken to like that no matter what.
Those lads need to take a class on respect ....muppets :rolleyes:

Tha Gopher

How do you work that one out? The sheer suprise on her face was what got me, as if she honestly had not expected anyone to say anything. Its like being shocked if you walked down the Shankill Road in Belfast and got beaten up while wearing a Celtic Jersey

Jaysus, yid think I was the one shouting at her. All I did was get a ragin horn.....

Riamfada

Roffles , Yeah I doubt she was "high-society" herself.

Heyes

Tha Gopher wrote:

How do you work that one out? The sheer suprise on her face was what got me, as if she honestly had not expected anyone to say anything. Its like being shocked if you walked down the Shankill Road in Belfast and got beaten up while wearing a Celtic Jersey

Jaysus, yid think I was the one shouting at her. All I did was get a ragin horn.....

Ah im not getting at you in the slightest, its just there comments. Whistle yeah go for it, but they were a bit out of line in my opinion of what they said... but sure thats all it is, my opinion.

mike65

After hours is the Dutch Gold Appreciation Society of forums methinks.

Mike.

Kintarō Hattori

In fairness no-one desrves to have that shouted at them, regardless of what she was wearing. So she was wearing something provocative. You should be glad rather than condeming her for what she had on.

Zascar

There is a big differnece between a girl getting attention cause she is hot, and getting leered at by a group of scumbags... I don't think anyone wants attention form the Dutch Gold Brigade, but of course women dress provocitivly to attract attention, its just that they don't want to be thought of in horribly improper ways by guys they wouldn;t even want to talk to int he first place.

Its a diffferent story in a nightclub. Some girls love the attention of guys thinking they are sexy, and why shoudn't they! If I was a chick I'd love it. Actually just yesterday I was walking down the street and saw a group of about 5 very pretty (but very young) girls sitting at the side of the road. I happened to be wearing a suit and looked pretty smart, and as I walked by the hottest one who I was admiring looked at me and them shoited "Woooo Sexy!" I just smiled and laughed and kept walking but it made me feel good - but I suppose if you were an "Animal Blond Bird" as you do delecatly put it, getting this all day every day, its going to get a bit annoying...

Mossy Monk

Tha Gopher wrote:

the Dutch Gold Appreciation Society, who proceed to drunkenly shout along the lines "ah yeah bitch!" "id spunk in your eyes" and such.

classy

L31mr0d

Turns out its an anthropological trait that has passed over from when we evolved from apes. Like the way a peacock plumes its feathers. We instinctively need to get the womans attention, whom we would view as a possible mate. They did a study into men who where happily married, who would beep their horn at hot women crossing the street. They had no intention of getting out the car and actually engaging in a relationship with the woman but they felt compelled to make their presence known to the lady, and that is all it is. Woman are doing the same dressing so provocatively, they expect male attention, but they don't expect to be harassed for it.

I'd say there are a percentage of woman who appreciate being singled out amongst other woman on the street and whistled at by builders, but they all wouldn't appreciate lewd comments.

I remember my friends advice on looking at woman in provactive clothing, you're allowed to do one up and down and then a nod of approval. Anyway more is perving and any noises made in response is rude.

pickarooney

If an ugly bloke does it he's a disgusting perv, but if a hot young studmuffin does it, he's probably OK.

Ickle Magoo

I think there is a world of difference between a cheeky wink or wolf-whistle and the intimadating, aggresive and quite frightening shouting of sexually explicit suggestions....

AngryBadger

Ickle Magoo wrote:

I think there is a world of difference between a cheeky wink or wolf-whistle and the intimadating, aggresive and quite frightening shouting of sexually explicit suggestions....

Agreed

Cake Fiend

Would you enjoy it if a load of ugly fat/knacker birds started wolf-whistling at you and telling you they'd ride your face like a pony? Probably not. I doubt it's usually attractive men that do the whistling and shouting (more like fat builders and scangers).

smallpaws

It really depends on the guy. If it's some old drunk just drooling over you, or some obnoxious skanger who had to shout crap at any woman walking by, it's gross. Some guy who looks at you with approval (and doesn't scream "I'd spunk in ya eyes" to impress his friends) when you are looking your best is really pretty nice. It's that man-woman thing; just recognition of being at your prime, or at least looking good.
I remember once walking into a coffeeshop after having a really good sale of my art (that's what I do) and my dress actually looked good, my tummy was nice and flat, my legs looked good, my makeup was great and for once in my life I was having a good hair day, and this very handsome man saw me walk in, stood up from his seat and just sort of stared in admiration smiling and wordless,his mouth hanging open while I got my coffee at the counter. I felt like a million bucks at that point, I had just turned 30 and had been taking ribbing from my girlfriends (as if 30 was old!) and it was just this cool little footnote to a really good day.

connundrum

I'd feel totally degraded if a woman (any woman) was to start cat calling, saying that my buns look hot in those jeans, telling me my package looked huge... or wait :rolleyes:

If you're wearing next to nothing - as the op suggested - then you should expect a reaction. If a guy were to go round in a speedo, you can be assured that he'd get an earfull. Common sense must prevail. The Irish are the most pass remarkable race on earth, so there's no need for the shocked look :eek:

Edit - reminds me of the Take That concert (I was there on a freebie right!!) An older woman beside us constantly screamed at Gary Barlow - 'Gary I'd ride ya right now Gary, ya sexy beast ya!'..

Gary Barlow ffs! My point is pretty much proven, the Irish will pass comment on anything.

AngryBadger

connundrum wrote:

I'd feel totally degraded if a woman (any woman) was to start cat calling, saying that my buns look hot in those jeans, telling me my package looked huge... or wait :rolleyes:

If you're wearing next to nothing - as the op suggested - then you should expect a reaction. If a guy were to go round in a speedo, you can be assured that he'd get an earfull. Common sense must prevail. The Irish are the most pass remarkable race on earth, so there's no need for the shocked look :eek:

Agreed

greenteaicedtea

Sico wrote:

Would you enjoy it if a load of ugly fat/knacker birds started wolf-whistling at you and telling you they'd ride your face like a pony? Probably not. I doubt it's usually attractive men that do the whistling and shouting (more like fat builders and scangers).

Nicely said.

spurious

Steering dangerously close to 'she was asking for it' here...

Anyone has the right to walk the street wearing their choice of clothing without having neanderthals of either sex shout remarks at them.

Ickle Magoo

connundrum wrote:

If you're wearing next to nothing - as the op suggested - then you should expect a reaction.

I think when you have the attitude of "she was wearing X so she deserves everything she gets" you get into rather dodgy territory and I can't imagine any woman shouting those kind of lewd comments to a man, even if he was in speedo's....

Nalz

connundrum wrote:

If you're wearing next to nothing - as the op suggested - then you should expect a reaction.

exactly. further more, some probably look for it. Lets call a spade a spade here

connundrum

Ickle Magoo wrote:

I think when you have the attitude of "she was wearing X so she deserves everything she gets" you get into rather dodgy territory

That dodgy territory you speak of is when women get attacked and then blamed for it because of what they are wearing. That is a different topic, I was referring to the situation which the OP mentioned - cat calling/whistling only.

Ickle Magoo wrote:

and I can't imagine any woman shouting those kind of lewd comments to a man, even if he was in speedo's....

Please. Have you been outside your house in the past 5 years? Granted women may need to have 1 or 2 drinks (I don't mean they have to be locked) but they are just as bad as the men. Hen parties are at it the whole time.

AngryBadger

Ickle Magoo wrote:

I can't imagine any woman shouting those kind of lewd comments to a man, even if he was in speedo's....

In fairness it happens. Personally i have no problem with it. it dos go on though. tbh I can't really imagine any guy having a problem with it?

Le Rack

Happens everywhere.
With what the OP said yer wan was wearing she should have expected some reaction, maybe she didn't get the best one off them but hey...
There was a building site accross the road from wear I used to get my school bus and we got shouted at every morning in our uniforms, sometimes grand sometimes rotten. Or fellas passing in cars would beep horns etc, but one night I was walking home from the pub, and a guy approached me saying stuff like "Ah I'd love ta ram it up between dem two legs of yores" scared the crap outta me, cuz he's a known perv, but girls under it all generally don't mind a bit of male attention, a wink, a smile, a whistle!

Ickle Magoo

connundrum wrote:

That dodgy territory you speak of is when women get attacked and then blamed for it because of what they are wearing. That is a different topic, I was referring to the situation which the OP mentioned - cat calling/whistling only.

I don't think there is any harm in cat-calling & whistling per se...it's when it crosses the line into a man shouting what he wants to do with her body that it becomes a more serious issue imo....and that is what I was refering to....

connundrum wrote:

Please. Have you been outside your house in the past 5 years? Granted women may need to have 1 or 2 drinks (I don't mean they have to be locked) but they are just as bad as the men. Hen parties are at it the whole time.

I have never heard a group of woman shout at a lone man the equivelant of what the OP stated...must just be the company I keep....:)

AngryBadger

Ickle Magoo wrote:

I have never heard a group of woman shout at a lone man the equivelant of what the OP stated...must just be the company I keep....:)

Well you are smaller than the average bear

connundrum

Ickle Magoo wrote:

I don't think there is any harm in cat-calling & whistling per se...it's when it crosses the line into a man shouting what he wants to do with her body that it becomes a more serious issue imo....and that is what I was refering to.....

I fully agree

Ickle Magoo wrote:

I have never heard a group of woman shout at a lone man the equivelant of what the OP stated...must just be the company I keep....:)

LOL, you keep with that comapny so But, it does happen. I remember walking home one night seeing a group of women chasing a young lad down the road - I thought it was a bit of craic, he looked terrified. Imagine it had been the other way around

Ickle Magoo

AngryBadger wrote:

Well you are smaller than the average bear

Lol! What are you suggesting?

connundrum wrote:

I remember walking home one night seeing a group of women chasing a young lad down the road - I thought it was a bit of craic, he looked terrified. Imagine it had been the other way around

Poor lad! I agree that harassment of women is taken very seriously compared to that of men, who are expected to take it on the chin or even enjoy it...

crybaby

"bitch" and "spunk in your eye" are all wildly aggressive remarks to be making although wolf-whistling and cat calling are harmless, i find them fairly disgusting myself and just as ridiculous, if you have to pass a comment do it quietly to your mate instead of shouting it out thinking your actions are in some way cute. She dressed to get some sort of reaction she just got the wrong one.

AngryBadger

crybaby wrote:

She dressed to get some sort of reaction she just got the wrong one.

I suppose the problem a lot of guys have is that this is the response you're going to get from certain male demographics, and we figure if you're going to dress in an attractive manner, (and I'm not saying nor implying anything derisive), you will get a certain amount of that kind of attention, so deal with it.

You can't just expect to get gentlemen callers begging for a spot on your dance card, you're going to get the other kind of caller as well.

BlitzKrieg

i find the ones online funnier...ever go to the bebo page of some attractive lass, and you have these sort of messages left on their comments page, followed by..

If your up for it, talk to me on XXX@hotmail.com

I'm pretty sure most of them are around 16, and that the most common response is to sign said email address up to every gay porn mailing list one can find.

RandomOne

crybaby wrote:

"bitch" and "spunk in your eye" are all wildly aggressive remarks to be making although wolf-whistling and cat calling are harmless, i find them fairly disgusting myself and just as ridiculous, if you have to pass a comment do it quietly to your mate instead of shouting it out thinking your actions are in some way cute.

Yep, subtlety is far more attractive in both genders.

L31mr0d

In fairness if I was walking past fitzsimons and some hen party started shouting what they wanted to do me, even if they started falling all over me i'd probably be fine with it to a point. I think its a different story because a man always feels he's in control of the situation and that he can stop it whenever he wants, whereas a woman in that situation can easily be taken advantage of, just saying a swift push away of some horny 50yo on a hen night by me would have a greater affect than a girl trying to push a 50yo man away (unless there the ones that go to my gym... sheesh)

jrey1981

I have been in a similar situation to Zascar, lol, with teenage girls wolf-whistling or whatever.

When I was at uni I was in London with a friend who is pretty gorgeous and we were on our way to a conference on the tube.

As we got on an escalator, a guy walking the other way made a comment about my friend as he passed us. I don't remember exactly what he said, but it was more cheeky than lewd - something like "hope I see you later, sexy."

My friend retorted immediately "Yeah, right, in your dreams," which was pretty funny.

In the situation the OP described, there was nothing to stop the woman in question shouting something like "feck off ye perverts..."

No harm in putting these guys in their place with a bit of witty repartee

Zebra3

Tha Gopher wrote:

and the bird ahead of me walks by a group of the Dutch Gold Appreciation Society, who proceed to drunkenly shout along the lines "ah yeah bitch!" "id spunk in your eyes" and such.

I take it none of them got her number then.

Doomspell

crybaby wrote:

"bitch" and "spunk in your eye" are all wildly aggressive remarks to be making although wolf-whistling and cat calling are harmless, i find them fairly disgusting myself and just as ridiculous, if you have to pass a comment do it quietly to your mate instead of shouting it out thinking your actions are in some way cute. She dressed to get some sort of reaction she just got the wrong one.

I totally agree with that!

Pigman II

Wave a flag long enough in peoples faces and someone eventually bound to start shooting at it.

jrey1981

Pigman II wrote:

Wave a flag long enough in peoples faces and someone eventually bound to start shooting at it.

as long as you don't miss and hit someone in the eye

Tha Gopher

Hmm, alot of people here seem to be hinting that getting lip from a bunch of skangers is somehow different than if Brad Pitt shouted it.

Mind you I can see the position. Unless theyre drunk, most girls seem to grow out of shouting "yer bleedin gorgeous" at passing lads once they pass their 16th birthday. Still, having a 15 year old deliberately say it within your earshot is a gynormous ego stroke for any man. But as regards our equivalent, I think the male equivalent of having skangs shout dirt is situations where we are in a pub and terrified of being eaten alive by old women on a stag do.:eek: :eek: Who brings oul ones on one ffs.

JC 2K3

spurious wrote:

Steering dangerously close to 'she was asking for it' here...

Anyone has the right to walk the street wearing their choice of clothing without having neanderthals of either sex shout remarks at them.

What about their right to freedom of speech?

I hate in these debates when people play the "rights" card.


My opinion on this? IT'S NOT A SERIOUS ISSUE. Some people here are sounding like easily offended old ladies. It's the 21st century, sexual language isn't taboo and no one is realistically psychologically troubled by phrases like "I'd spunk in your eye" or words like "bítch".

This issue is no more serious than when skangers tell me, "cut yer hair ya hippy" or other such stupid remarks that they seem to get enjoyment out of and piss me off for approx 10 seconds before I forget about it.

The Sweeper

JC 2K3 wrote:

It's the 21st century, sexual language isn't taboo and no one is realistically psychologically troubled by phrases like "I'd spunk in your eye" or words like "bítch".

In that case, will you spread for me later? Doesn't matter if you're a bird or whatever, I'll still love to ram it up yer arse. Or maybe I could just lick it into ya. Would ya like that? Or maybe I could just finger you? Bet you could take two or three at a time.

And according to you, you'd love it, you slag.

simu

JC 2K3 wrote:

It's the 21st century, sexual language isn't taboo and no one is realistically psychologically troubled by phrases like "I'd spunk in your eye" or words like "bítch".

Eh, tbh, those are pretty strong words to say to a stranger and I don't see why anyone would be happy to walk around the streets and have such comments directed at them. Most people wouldn't be fragile enough to be deeply affected by it but it's still a stupid and uncouth thing to do imhoe.

Guys who wolfwhistle don't do it to give a compliment - they do it to show off to their buddies or express some warped macho view of the world. It's pretty sad, actually.

JC 2K3

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

In that case, will you spread for me later? Doesn't matter if you're a bird or whatever, I'll still love to ram it up yer arse. Or maybe I could just lick it into ya. Would ya like that? Or maybe I could just finger you? Bet you could take two or three at a time.

And according to you, you'd love it, you slag.

What's your point? I'm not offended....
And I never said people getting such comments said to them liked it....

simu wrote:

Eh, tbh, those are pretty strong words to say to a stranger and I don't see why anyone would be happy to walk around the streets and have such comments directed at them. Most people wouldn't be fragile enough to be deeply affected by it but it's still a stupid and uncouth thing to do imhoe.

I'm not happy with skangers shouting abuse at me, but it's stupid to make a big deal out of it just because it's of a sexual nature...

simu wrote:

Guys who wolfwhistle don't do it to give a compliment - they do it to show off to their buddies or express some warped macho view of the world. It's pretty sad, actually.

I never said it was a compliment, I personally hate it....

And not wanting to go off on a tangent but is a girl wearing provocative clothing not expressing some warped feminist view of the world?

Gone West

Tha Gopher wrote:

Hmm, alot of people here seem to be hinting that getting lip from a bunch of skangers is somehow different than if Brad Pitt shouted it.

Mind you I can see the position. Unless theyre drunk, most girls seem to grow out of shouting "yer bleedin gorgeous" at passing lads once they pass their 16th birthday. Still, having a 15 year old deliberately say it within your earshot is a gynormous ego stroke for any man. But as regards our equivalent, I think the male equivalent of having skangs shout dirt is situations where we are in a pub and terrified of being eaten alive by old women on a stag do.:eek: :eek: Who brings oul ones on one ffs.

not at all.
Have you never been randomly hassled like this by gangs of women on the street?
Like hen parties calling out stuff and trying to drag you along with them to whatever godforsaken watering holes theyre going to.

WhiteWashMan

JC 2K3 wrote:

And not wanting to go off on a tangent but is a girl wearing provocative clothing not expressing some warped feminist view of the world?

no, she probably wears those clothes becuase she likes them, they make her look good and feel good about herself.

whats the problem with that?

simu

I'm not happy with skangers shouting abuse at me, but it's stupid to make a big deal out of it just because it's of a sexual nature...

Well, I think it sucks equally much if it's violent rather than sexual. I wouldn't make a huge deal out of it because life's too short but it isn't acceptable behaviour imho. All you can do really is think "What an eejit, I'm out of here".

And not wanting to go off on a tangent but is a girl wearing provocative clothing not expressing some warped feminist view of the world?

Nah, people's ideas of what provocative is vary hugely, all girls are not feminists etc etc... but another thread for that I'd say!

JC 2K3

WhiteWashMan wrote:

no, she probably wears those clothes becuase she likes them, they make her look good and feel good about herself.

whats the problem with that?

Well why do you think the guys shout abuse? They like doing it and it makes them feel good about themselves(albeit in a possibly twisted way depending on your school of thought). I'm sure there are many conservative people who would be offended by what she's wearing. Look at what simu said:

simu wrote:

people's ideas of what provocative is vary hugely

Just like people's ideas of what's offensive vary hugely.

simu wrote:

Well, I think it sucks equally much if it's violent rather than sexual. I wouldn't make a huge deal out of it because life's too short but it isn't acceptable behaviour imho. All you can do really is think "What an eejit, I'm out of here".

Exactly. If you're offended by something stupid that doesn't do you significant physical or emtional harm then it's not worth making a big deal out of. And IMO you can't be emotionally harmed by skangers passing stupid remarks, no matter how vulgar.

simu

WEll, there are laws about public nudity all the same so it's not like there's a total free for all!

mikemac

In the OP's post I'd say the girl loved it. Sounds like an attention seeker

To quote a great man:
“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.”

JC 2K3

simu wrote:

WEll, there are laws about public nudity all the same so it's not like there's a total free for all!

Yeah, I'm sure there're laws against verbal abuse too. My point was simply that scumbags are scumbags and will insult people and that we shouldn't care or make a big deal about it no matter how lewd the remarks might be.