How is degree result calculated?

Stolperstein

Quick question. How exactly are our degree results calculated in Trinity?

Other colleges are told that a part of their JS result is taken into account etc. I've done three years in Tinity at this stage - and basically it's NEVER been mentioned! So having lived blind for the past three years, I really need to find out - does it all hang on the SS exam results or is it a bit of everything, a pinch of salt, a bucketload of cobblestones and a pat on the head?

Help would be appreciated. Can you enlighten?

Thanks.

John

It depends on the course. JS counted for 10% of my degree. I think it's much higher for maths. Doesn't count at all for zoology (they do a paper on JS material in their finals, hate that!). Don't know about any other courses.

Nietzschean

its 50% from JS for maths...eugh

and SS TP aswell as having 35% from JS, have some paper(which i think phy have too) which can be any questions to topics from all four years..now thats gehy

xeduCat

Stolperstein wrote:

Help would be appreciated. Can you enlighten?

Thanks.

The answer lies in a big blue book.

The College Calendar. Online it's neither blue nor a book, but you can find it here. You probably received a version of this pertaining to your own course when you registered, again neither big nor blue, but if you go that page, and find the chapter relating to your faculty, you can (in most cases!) find out what the regulations for your course are. If not, get onto your tutor if you're still bothered.

Warning: most course entries in the Calendar are pages too long. So if something is unclear, go ask.

Stolperstein

Ah yes, the magical college calendar. The reason I asked in the first place is that it doesn't say anything about final grading at all, other than giving the classes of degrees awarded! Looks like it probably all rests on final year for me, but then again - who knows?!

Cheers for the help, and of course the insight! Hadn't realised there were such differences between the course structures in college... I'd say that's the case closed!

Tacitha

Are you sure the information isn´t in the calendar? Without reading through every course entry, I can´t prove it is, but I'd be very surprised if any course entry doesn´t mention this. Find your faculty, find in it your school, vice deanery or department, find your course, and look at the last or near-last section on Moderatorship.
What course is it you do? The majority do have JS count towards moderatorship.

glucosamine

Stolperstein wrote:

Ah yes, the magical college calendar. The reason I asked in the first place is that it doesn't say anything about final grading at all, other than giving the classes of degrees awarded! Looks like it probably all rests on final year for me, but then again - who knows?!

Probably your head of department? Fellow students? Any lecturer you've had? Did you ask any of these people?

Nietzschean

during the summer? he just wants a nice offical online place to look it up..understandable enough...

Stolperstein

Summer! I love it...

I'm actually sitting in the middle of Europe studying for exams! I wish it was the tumbleweed season like at home. I study "Business Studies and a Language", and it would appear that as no mention is made of it, only final year counts towards the final year results. I'm not overly concerned about it - it really just struck me the other day. Here I am at the (very late) end of JS, having been so wrapped up in all the immediate hurdles that I failed to question where it all was leading to! They must bear previous years performance into account when drawing up degree results to some extent, but the fact that I have to write a dissertation in my "Indo-European language" next year perhaps shows an emphasis on the final year.

I will be asking my lecturers about it, but first I have nine exams to be passing! Thanks again for all your input.

glucosamine

Nietzschean wrote:

during the summer? he just wants a nice offical online place to look it up..understandable enough...

oh sorry i forgot all the academic staff in trinity pack their bags and go to butlins for the summer holidays. once more, they've no email access.

Nietzschean

Kev stop being so obnoxious, there is actually a large number of staff who leave the country for the summer and don't actually check their tcd emails very often.

John

I don't think it's that high, most of the staff are still working and can't really take the summer off.

Tacitha

I think most staff are around Dublin, if at home much of the time, and will answer e-mails. But with a question like this in the summer, I'd phone the faculty office some morning - they have the regulations, and some sort of office hours.
The BESS section of the calendar is a mess. Actually, if it weren't in the calendar that third year counts, I suspect it would be open to challenge. But with most courses with a compulsory third year abroad, the degree is calculated on fourth year results only. Very desirable from the college's point of view, since conversion from foreign grades is not an exact art. (There was a year when Law and French threatened legal action, appropriately enough, unless the conversion rate was changed).
Good luck with the exams anyway

glucosamine

Nietzschean wrote:

Kev stop being so obnoxious, there is actually a large number of staff who leave the country for the summer and don't actually check their tcd emails very often.

Sorry Ian, just accept you're wrong. I'm sure plenty of the nonacademic staff go on holidays and not check their tcd mails so if you do need to contact your cleaning lady you'll have to wait until she returns.

Crash

Kev banned. honestly, just keep your head down and I wouldnt give a flying ****.

Nietzschean

glucosamine wrote:

Sorry Ian, just accept you're wrong. I'm sure plenty of the nonacademic staff go on holidays and not check their tcd mails so if you do need to contact your cleaning lady you'll have to wait until she returns.

but i'm not. there have been periods where i could count the number of academic staff in the maths dept around on my hands.

John

Yeah but that's just the maths department. I've been in during the summer and anyone that does any sort of research will be there all summer.

Nietzschean

most of the maths department are researchers...theres lots of conferences and things during the summer. obviously i guess its dependant on department...