What "class" are you?

Archeron

So, this is inspired by the other class related thread. What class are you, or how do you percieve yourself? Were you born with a silver spoon or a plastic disposable one? I think we should base this on what you were born as, not what you've become.

Me, I'm a working class muppet, and damn proud of it. Born and raised in the Northside Dublin suburbs, and lived there a lot of my life. Worked for everything I have (no, I didnt just steal everything) Now, I've moved on to a house in the country, but I'm still a scanger at heart, and always will be.

I left my heart in the chipper in Darndale.

What are you?

antSionnach

theres no one class any more so i dont think i can answer this. I live in a nice house with my folks, we go on holiday and can afford stuff. But I have friends who were like that un til recently and recently had to quit a fee paying school to go to a certain VEC on the southside. Equally there are some real kanackers in boarding schools and living in nice houses. My point is: that in this economy class isnt as permanent as it was and the parameters are way too cloudy to decipher. Theres no old money anymore, money is very move-able

boneless

Worker and Proud of the fact! I spent 15 years in the trade union and political movements advancing the cause of my class and do not regret a minute of it.

cornbb

Class isn't a yardstick against which income, quality of life or anything else can be measured. George Orwell described the "lower middle" classes as being worse off than the "upper working" classes of the same income, simply because of the price of keeping up appearances, living in a nice neighbourhood etc.

Class-ism is the racism/sexism/whatever-big-ism of our time, IMO

Edit: ok, so i'm middle-middle class, but there isn't an option for that

Archeron

cornbb wrote:

I'm not answering this question. Class isn't a yardstick against which income, quality of life or anything else can be measured. George Orwell described the "lower middle" classes as being worse off than the "upper working" classes of the same income, simply because of the price of keeping up appearances, living in a nice neighbourhood etc.

Class-ism is the racism/sexism/whatever-big-ism of our time, IMO

I agree, thats why I put the big squiggly things around the world class.I'm just interested in hearing into what world we were all born. (and we do all know the honest answer to that)

Gone West

Theres no defined class system in Ireland.
Thats for the english with their toffs and peers and the like
In Ireland, anyone can immediately (over say, half the course of their working life) jump from working class to upper middle or upper class.

As for myself, I am from probably a working class background(nothing wrong with it ), but since I'm in college and have a great job, thats probably bumped me up somewhat.

Chakar

Thats true thats there's no defined class system, but the OP is talking about roughly what class we were born in.

To be honest there's a big middle class bulge in Ireland due to the recent prosperity.

jrey1981

everywhere has class divisions, but they are not as rigidly defined as they used to be imho.

Economic prosperity allows social mobility to a certain extent, but you can never really escape your roots.

jcoote

this class thing is stupid

say i'm from a slum and make millions somehow ...say from an invention or something

my kids are born into a rich family wanting for nothing

i'm still working class or whatever
but my kids are upper

??????

have i got that right

chern0byl

jcoote wrote:

but my kids are upper

Your kids still stink of middle class regardless of how much money you have. Upper class is all about blood.

peepsbates

Wheres the ghetto option?

Dyr

Yeah, can we have a welfare class please?

thebaz

i guess i am from middle class, i was born and grew up in ordinary estate in west dublin, went to public schools, then my dad made some money moved to private estate, in south dublin and then attended the upper class school of gonzaga - so from lower middle class to upper middle class -- then back to my current no class position. So as others say class position seams to rotate in ireland.

The Free Man

whats this class boloney?
i mean, we all come from the same seed maaan, now everybody link up and sway with me people, just sway...


peace and love to you all,
thefreeman

dr.bollocko

Im kinda wondering about the proud to be chav culture in Britain. Are some ppl proud of their ASBOs and to be drawing welfare for 20 years and that?
And also, if a bloke is on welfare his whole bone-idle lazy arse life, is he working class? Surely they should be another word? Bone-idle incompetent non-working class for example.

Nalz

I am the Bsc Table quiz master Brainiac type who draws the dole and lives in everone elses house including my parents .


Mik...I mean

Trilla


TIGGLYTUFF

Ruu_Old

The Free Man wrote:

whats this class boloney?
i mean, we all come from the same seed maaan, now everybody link up and sway with me people, just sway...


peace and love to you all,
thefreeman

Indeed *makes peace sign*:)

Nightwish

I'm one of those upper-lower-middle-class types

mike65

I'm a poverty striken toff! Nah, I'm middle-class by instinct, VOTE PD!

Mike.

Tar.Aldarion

I have no idea, not rich, not poor. Somewhere in the middle I guess.

Pythia

I went to a private school, as did my parents and grandparents.
My parents went to college, as did my grandfathers.

Anyway, I picked upper middle, as most people seemed to.

Anto McC

Working Class Hero!

Diarmiud

Working class

Brian Capture

chern0byl wrote:

Upper class is all about blood.

You mean blood groups, yeah?

Doctor DooM

Working. And proud.

Brian Capture

Archeron wrote:

but I'm still a scanger at heart, and always will be.

That's not something to be proud of.

county

Archeron wrote:

So, this is inspired by the other class related thread. What class are you, or how do you percieve yourself? Were you born with a silver spoon or a plastic disposable one? I think we should base this on what you were born as, not what you've become.

Me, I'm a working class muppet, and damn proud of it. Born and raised in the Northside Dublin suburbs, and lived there a lot of my life. Worked for everything I have (no, I didnt just steal everything) Now, I've moved on to a house in the country, but I'm still a scanger at heart, and always will be.

I left my heart in the chipper in Darndale.

What are you?

lower and upper middle class,make that up yourself yeh?

iguana

Archeron wrote:

Me, I'm a working class muppet, and damn proud of it. Born and raised in the Northside Dublin suburbs, and lived there a lot of my life. Worked for everything I have (no, I didnt just steal everything) Now, I've moved on to a house in the country, but I'm still a scanger at heart, and always will be.

Since when does working class = scanger?

My dad drove a bin lorry, and when I was born we lived in a tiny flat, then a nicer, slightly less tiny flat until my brother was born and then we were allocated a corporation house. My parents saved like crazy and never drank or smoked (my dad's only vice was his rugby) and by the time my next brother was born they could afford to buy a house. It was in crap condition and they slowly renovated it bit by bit while looking after 3 small children.

My dad was his union shop steward and the stress of fending off privatisation made him ill. Both my grandfathers and all my uncles have all served as union stewards as did I in my college job.

My dad's been retired due to illness for years now. The house is paid off and worth a mini-fortune and they live a hippy lifestyle growing their own organic fruit and veg. They love nothing more than heading off in their camper van at the weekends, while my dad brings his new vice (he can't play rugby anymore) his guitar.

We changed from being poor working class, to being even poorer than that when my dad got sick, to finding ourselves well off. My parents never allowed themselves to be limited by whatever crap life threw at them and they would never let me or my brothers limit ourselves.

I know you probably meant it as a joke, but I don't think it is very funny. People who work hard for a living are the opposite of skangers.

Tha Gopher

Bleedin workin class roi!


Ireland now has 30,000 millionaires. Presumably it means 30,000 people who singularly are millionaires, not including their wives and children. If it included that, what would that push it to, maybe 100,000 people in this country who are part of a millionaire family? Thats 1 in 40 of the republics population. I only know of one definite member of a millionaire family, an old mate of mine. However, we have a suspicion that one of my best mates family won the lotto or something. Mam, Dad, four kids including my mate, until about 1996/97 they lived like everyone else- normal house, drove a car from the early 80s as we all did back then, Dad drove a lorry. Since then every 15 months or so theyve been buying a brand new people carrier, dunno how many new cars theyve had in the last decade. Done up the gaff, take two holidays to the med every year, payin for one daughter to go to college abroad. I know the celtic tiger improved our wages slightly but come on, this is takin the piss! Musta won the lotto on the sly.

iguana

Tha Gopher wrote:

Ireland now has 30,000 millionaires.

I'd imagine that would include the people who have assets in excess of a million. Including all those people whose homes are now valued at over a million. I know plenty of millionaires, of course if they wanted to start acting like it, they'd end up homeless.

boneless

dr.bollocko wrote:

Im kinda wondering about the proud to be chav culture in Britain. Are some ppl proud of their ASBOs and to be drawing welfare for 20 years and that?
And also, if a bloke is on welfare his whole bone-idle lazy arse life, is he working class? Surely they should be another word? Bone-idle incompetent non-working class for example.

That is what Marx described as the 'lumpen' element of society. They will always exist since there are always going to be lazy bast**ds willing to take as much as they can for as little input into society on their behalf.

Nearly as bad as the capitalists!!!

Sarky

I am above you all, maggots.

Funny AND true.

jrey1981

My parents might say working class. I would say middle class.

But because of my accent most people assume I am upper class.

I have worked, mixed and got along with everyone from supermarket staff and tradesmen to wealthy CEOs and entrepreneurs, and sons and daughters of millionaires, so it has never been an issue for me, but it can be for other people who would then make assumptions.