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www.xeeatwelve.com

  • 14-07-2006 12:15PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    This site has a load of very interesting essays written from a gnostic spiritual point of view.

    some of it is very far out, but I would urge honest seekers of spiritual truth to read a few and see what you think. It gives some very interesting and non-conventional viewpoints on things like Karma, the existence of evil and how world events are controlled and manipulated by unseen powers in the background. Not for the closed-minded.

    enjoy! :)

    www.xeeatwelve.com


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    jessop1 wrote:
    Not for the closed-minded.
    In other words - not for those with a jot of intellectual taste or analytical reasoning. Alien Astronaut Theory always strikes me as being of the same species of worldview as Creationism - frantic hermeneutic acrobatics towards the warping of all available evidence to support an unlikely and tremendously inelegant hypothesis. Not to mention the violence this kind of stuff has done to the discussion of Middle Eastern myth. One cannot mention the Annuna these days without ones interlocutor nodding sagely and saying "They came from another planet, you know." Really though, the support of David Icke for an idea should be the ultimate litmus test for pareidolic delusion.

    And what has this site got to do with Gnosticism?

    *wanders off muttering something about sackcloth, ashes and Richard Anton Wilson*


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Monica Breezy Stork


    jessop1 wrote:
    It gives some very interesting and non-conventional viewpoints on things like Karma,
    The current popular view of Karma is distorted enough without pink websites adding to it
    the existence of evil and how world events are controlled and manipulated by unseen powers in the background. Not for the closed-minded.

    enjoy! :)
    Mm, warning bells are going off. "Not for the closed-minded" is usually short for "everyone's opinion is equal no matter how fanciful or absurd it is"...

    Hm.
    *reads some paragraphs*
    Scary stuff. ¬.¬


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    Really, what are you doing posting in the spiritual section if you are not willing to open your mind even the tiniest bit? trolling methinks..

    These are very long articles, so I doubt you've had time to do more than glance at them, before you haughtily dismissed them as absurd.

    How very arrogant.

    As I said, they are not for the closed minded.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Monica Breezy Stork


    Open minded != gullible.

    Or perhaps you'd like to tell us what the "divine amoeba" is:
    Pythagoras was an early mathematician who developed several useful formulae that are still applied today. However, he was much more than a mathematician, he was the Divine Amoeba incarnated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    jessop1 wrote:
    Really, what are you doing posting in the spiritual section if you are not willing to open your mind even the tiniest bit? trolling methinks..

    These are very long articles, so I doubt you've had time to do more than glance at them, before you haughtily dismissed them as absurd.

    How very arrogant.

    As I said, they are not for the closed minded.
    And as we have both said - having an open mind does not mean one has to accept everything as being worthy of consideration. My other submissions to this forum will demonstrate that I cannot reasonably be accused of closed mindedness, but it is my opinion that this stuff is nonsense. Absurd. It does not require the opening of ones mind "the tiniest bit" - but that one accepts an entirely alternative history of the earth and prehistory of the human race on the basis of some imaginative readings of ancient texts and wild musings as to the purposes of ordinary bronze age structures.

    The fact that you and others expect that ideas such as these will be accepted without reservation by people who frequent a Spirituality forum informs the opinion held by many that anyone interested in Spirituality must be credulous and prone to delusion.

    You mentioned gnosticism in your original post. What had this site to do with gnosticism?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭The Gnome


    bluewolf wrote:
    "divine amoeba"

    Brilliant. ALL HAIL THE DIVINE AMOEBA!!

    /bows


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    I can see these repeating symmetrical "patterns" and their activities all around me at all times. The various geometric patterns have mesmerizing properties. This is by design of Darkness. It wants everyone who encounters them to be "hypnotised" so they become "lost" in the illusions. The Divine Amoeba has unmasked this diabolical scheme and soon the illusions will fall.
    Quite seriously, it seems to me that this person is suffering from common or garden paranoid schizophrenia. Really, the inclusion of Danikenesque Alien Astronaut Theory in his "essays" is no different to the religious imagery that obsesses the stereotypical homicidal psychopath - who hears the voice of God and murders demons in human form. Just a little more exotic and, one hopes, less violent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    There is such a thing as being too openminded really it can cause your brain to fall out.

    People are entitled to believe what they wish but just because there is a web site about it does no make it real,
    if it works for people and makes them happy they can believe what they wish no matter how silly it seem to others,
    really it has not stopped David Icke.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    I think what it boils down to is that ye have dismissed this stuff without actually reading it.

    What has it got to do with gnosticism? The fact that you asked this question is an instant giveaway that you have not looked at any of the articles in any detail . They are rooted in gnosticism.

    Gnosticism is essentially about good versus evil; and how the evil creation evil/satan/darkness has imposed itself on goodness.

    Aye it all sounds very wishy washy but you only have to look at the murder mayhem and depravity that happens in the world today to see that evil is very real.

    read more of the articles and you will understand what she means by divine amoeba.

    everything is worthy of consideration. You need to consider things ie read and review to form a valid opinion. You can dismiss it after you have considered and read it, but to write it off based on a quick glance is closed minded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I did look over it and the titles of the articles do not sum up they are best a hodgepodge of ideas imho.

    http://www.gnosis.org/
    http://www.kheper.net/topics/Gnosticism/intro.htm
    http://www.iep.utm.edu/g/gnostic.htm

    I also think maybe your ides on what Gnosticism is maybe slight skewed.


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  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Monica Breezy Stork


    That stuff isn't gnosticism.

    Ok, you show us any evidence provided for that stuff, and we'll listen.
    And I mean evidence, not "aliens appeared to me" and general schizo ramblings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    wow...well done thaedydal, you have proved my point. Each article has around 15 pages of information and you have made your mind up based on the titles - that is hilarious. And you are saying that my view of what gnosis is is skewed.

    As I said, you need to read the articles to make an informed opinion. Until you do, you are just sh1te talkin mate.!

    "Ok, you show us any evidence provided for that stuff, and we'll listen.
    And I mean evidence, not "aliens appeared to me" and general schizo ramblings"

    how do you know the evidence isnt in any of the articles if you are not prepared to bother your a*se reading them?? all you have done is selected a paragraph and highlighted it for ridicule...


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Monica Breezy Stork


    Because I've read some here and there and all there is is personal anecdotes.
    If the evidence is there, be nice and highlight it for us since you're so well acquainted with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    jessop1 wrote:
    What has it got to do with gnosticism? The fact that you asked this question is an instant giveaway that you have not looked at any of the articles in any detail . They are rooted in gnosticism.

    Gnosticism is essentially about good versus evil; and how the evil creation evil/satan/darkness has imposed itself on goodness.

    Thaedydal wrote:
    I also think maybe your ides on what Gnosticism is maybe slight skewed.
    Oh, just a little.
    jessop1 wrote:
    wow...well done thaedydal, you have proved my point. Each article has around 15 pages of information and you have made your mind up based on the titles - that is hilarious. And you are saying that my view of what gnosis is is skewed.
    Wait a minute - gnosis or Gnosticism? We are all familiar with Alien Astronaut Theory in one form or another. We have all perused this site and found in it excerpts that demonstrate the pitch of its intellectual contentions. And found that it is absurd.

    You do not understand Gnosticism, and if this Amitakh Stanford claims that his essays expound Gnostic ideas, neither does he.

    (Oh, I'm having a bad, bad forum day)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    Can you tell me what it is exactly that you are looking for evidence of then..there is a lot of info in there, do you want me to prove it all?


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Monica Breezy Stork


    Any of the claims regarding aliens, bringing alien-zapped dogs back to life, aliens controlling the world cup, etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    Sapien - are gnosis/gnosticism and what you call alien astronaut theory mutually exclusive?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    Bluewolf, there is lots of evidence to suggest alien involvement in world history and affairs, not just from this site, for example the pyramids of egypt; you have the internet in front of you, why dont you do a bit of research yourself...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    jessop1 wrote:
    Sapien - are gnosis/gnosticism and what you call alien astronaut theory mutually exclusive?
    No. But just because someone says: "The following is a Gnostic Theory", doesn't mean it is.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Monica Breezy Stork


    jessop1 wrote:
    Bluewolf, there is lots of evidence to suggest alien involvement in world history and affairs, not just from this site, for example the pyramids of egypt; you have the internet in front of you, why dont you do a bit of research yourself...
    The pyramids of egypt? Are you joking?

    No, you're the one who insists we believe this site, so you show some evidence for it, please


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    jessop1 wrote:
    Bluewolf, there is lots of evidence to suggest alien involvement in world history and affairs, not just from this site, for example the pyramids of egypt; you have the internet in front of you, why dont you do a bit of research yourself...
    Perhaps you can save us some time, and tell us why the pyramids of Egypt constitute evidence of alien involvement in human history.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    jessop1 wrote:
    wow...well done thaedydal, you have proved my point. Each article has around 15 pages of information and you have made your mind up based on the titles - that is hilarious. And you are saying that my view of what gnosis is is skewed.

    Actually I opened and read 12 of them I have to vent any links that are posted into the forums that I moderate.
    Thankfully I have block reading skills to balance out my dyslexia.

    I find the writings alarmist and honestly it could well be this whole thread would be better served in the conspriacy theories forum.
    Anunnaki Paedophilia Syndrome

    by

    Amitakh Stanford

    (republished from the Nara site)

    3rd February 2006

    Paedophilia is on the increase - it is a very lucrative, huge, international industry. The Anunnaki push detrimental behavioural disorders upon the unsuspecting public. This has been done with alcohol, gambling, prostitution, pornography, drugs, slavery, cannibalism, human and animal sacrifices, wars, religions etc. The recent revival of paedophilia is also the brainchild of the ruling elite


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    bluewolf, I cant prove every personal experience the author claims, what I am saying is that the underlying logic of what she is saying makes sense to me. You would need to read a few of the articles in full in order to gain an understanding of the concepts being presented.

    I have to leg it now, but I will post some links later on the alien origins of the pyramids and other such like.

    I'm not saying you should believe evrything you read, but you really need to actually read it to form a valid opinion or argument against it !

    nice debating with ye...peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    /me ponders the options of the conspiracy theories forum or skeptics or the parrots normal forums.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Monica Breezy Stork


    jessop1 wrote:
    but you really need to actually read it to form a valid opinion or argument against it !
    sorry, but you need to provide something of substance to actually argue with before we can get anywhere. ;)
    nice debating with ye...peace.
    Indeed :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    This essay gives a good description of what true gnosticism is and also crystallises the link with the xeeatwelve essays & gnosticism.

    [url cute due to multipop up windows and spyware]

    re the pyramids, both of the authors below have written extensively on the subject:

    [/url]http://www.robertbauval.co.uk
    http://www.briansbetterworld.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    jessop1 wrote:
    This essay gives a good description of what true gnosticism is and also crystallises the link with the xeeatwelve essays & gnosticism.

    http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prophecy/23/Essays/summary.html
    True gnosticism? Are you serious? That's even worse than the last site! Such vile, farraginous nonsense. Do you understand that gnosticism has existed for millenia, and has encompassed, in its various forms, Jewish, Christian and Muslim mysticism. It is not merely a free-for-all dumping ground for the lunacies of modern conspiracy theorists. Perhaps you should look into it a little - then perhaps you wouldn't throw these words around with such flippancy. The Wiki article on the subject is a decent start.
    jessop1 wrote:
    re the pyramids, both of the authors below have written extensively on the subject:

    http://www.robertbauval.co.uk
    http://www.briansbetterworld.com/
    Give us your own synthesis of the evidence. Presumably you're convinced - give us a few reasons why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭jessop1


    its funny that you dont see the irony of you "debunking" this material while simultaneously quoting wiki as a reliable source.... I've noticed this trend with debunkers like you using silly big words to try to kill an argument... do you really think that what wiki says or indeed what any of the mainstream religious texts say are any less "farraginous" than this?? at least this material tries to address and understand why the world today is the way it is, can you offer any alternative theories that address that question?...come to think of it, do you have any spiritual or religious leanings or are you an outright sceptic, and therefore just trolling this thread? pray tell...

    as for the pyramids, like everything else, I try to keep an open mind on the subject, I am willing to consider all evidence and not rule anything out or in. I have yet to hear credible evidence that the known technology of the time could have achieved the pyramids.

    Seeing as you are taking the hard stance and ruling it out absolutely, perhaps the onus is on you to back up your case with proof?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    I'm out.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Pythagoras was an early mathematician who developed several useful formulae that are still applied today. However, he was much more than a mathematician, he was the Divine Amoeba incarnated.
    This has to be one of the funniest sentences I have ever read.

    Hurray for us Pythagoreans.


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