GOIreland amateur photo competition

Krusty_Clown

My apologies if that has previously been posted (looked back through many pages of posts, and searched the forums to no avail), but I figured this might be of interest to some of you budding amateur photographers:

http://www.goireland.com/photo_comp/
GoIreland.com Photography Awards 2006
Fast forward to the future....
John Hinde’s series of famous postcards captured Ireland’s idyllic rural landscape where, most memorably, red-haired children collected turf from a Connemara bog.
The iconic images epitomised an Ireland we have left behind. An Ireland that is worlds apart from the country today and tomorrow ...
Ireland’s transformation since John Hinde’s postcards continues apace with advances taking place in all walks of life where the only constant is change. Just what will Ireland look like in the future?
We are inviting you to fast forward to the future and submit a photograph that you feel best represents Ireland TOMORROW.

The closing date for entries is Friday, September 29th 2006..
Prizes here.

I'm not affiliated with this in any way, I just received this via e-mail, and figured some of you might want to have a go..

qwertz

Just make sure you read and understand the T&C's before entering:

10. As a condition to competition entry, the candidate grants to Gulliver Ireland a royalty free, irrevocable, perpetual, and non-exclusive right in the copyright of the photograph. Selected photographs can be featured on GoIreland.com web site.

11. The candidate waives all moral rights they may have to the photograph as a condition of entry.

Morlar

That sounds like pretty standard spiel to me.

Valentia

Waiving your moral rights is not what I would call standard speil. I was thinking of entering last year until I read the T & C's. They are outragous. Think about it. By merely entering you are waiving your moral rights and everything else. Free pics for GoIreland thanks very much!! Fine if you win a substantial prize, then let them use them. Imagine the bank of images they will collect and legally have the right to use for nothing.

Minister John O'Donoghue should be told about this scam.

elven

So... even if you don't win and you just enter, they still get to use your picture wherever and whenever they fancy and you can say hee-haw about it? Hmmmm. Looks like there are quite a few 'competitions' that are a simple cover for not wanting to pay photographers for their images. The more I hear about these things the more I'm concerned for the people who are trying to make a living out of their photography... pretty shocking stuff.

mloc

i'm not really understanding the term "moral rights" in this context... it all sounds a bit pact-with-the-devil-ish.

seriously though, I have to agree with most posters. Fair enough if they stipulate that the winner of the competition (or even finalists) must agree to the royalty-free use of the winning image(s), but by including all entries in that clause they're simply amassing free images. Whores.

rymus

highly dubious. woe unto anyone that willingly gives images to these crooks. Woe I say!

FinoBlad

Another "cheap" stock photography plan, are people really happy to send off their work for the glory or whatever :eek:

edunon

I'm gonna send those photos rejected by stock companies

Fenster

"Moral" usually means the intellectual property rights, that is to say ownership of the photo. I'll pass - meh, I release all my photos under the Creative Commons, but that's to say everyone's free to take the photo, pass it on and everyone benefits.

Locking it away is never my intention.

311

If it's the case that they are not being wholly true about it ,everyone could send them the same photograph .

obewan

The term "Moral Rights" is explained http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights

Mick.

Valentia

I contacted them last year and got a stupid reply. I think the mail is at home but my net accass is still down. I'll see if I can dig it up.

I'm off to guess where for three weeks on Saturday so I may not get to post it though

mtracey

Hmmm, not great in fairness. Always a catch

joolsveer

FinoBlad wrote:

Another "cheap" stock photography plan, are people really happy to send off their work for the glory or whatever :eek:

On a slightly off topic topic.

Does anyone here sell their photos via stock photography agencies/libraries? If so are there reputable companies in this field?

mtracey

I use istockphoto.com

Krusty_Clown

Apologies for bringing this to your attention.. Didn't realise it could potentially be used for unscrupulous and nefarious purposes.

I'd imagine that 'moral rights' may be stock terminology that the company's solicitors asked them to include in the T&Cs for the purposes of the competition. I think I'll something anyway (and sign it / watermark it for the laugh).

Interestingly, the judging panel includes:
Jerry Kinnelly - Founder of Stockbyte, the specialist stock photography agency :eek:

Benster

Not entirely sure about this, but the O'Briens Sandwich Bar photo comps have something along the same lines in their Ts and Cs. As do a lot of other travel company photo comps, so it's not entirely unknown. Not that I'm defending it, mind you, it's lazy-ass way for them to hoover up a load of free pics. And it's really for those reasons that I'd steer clear of them too. Those companies are earning enough, let them go through the paying channels for their advertising material.

obewan

Yes this is included in many Competitions but.... my reading of Moral Rights is that the publisher has the right to alter any part of or the whole photograph (without consultation) as they see fit to if, I "give up" my Moral Rights.

I would still retain all copyright etc but if the photograph is altered and not to my liking I cannot argue with the publisher.

So personally I would not enter Competitions containing this claus. That way if the Publisher wants to alter the photograph, then he has to seek my permission.

Mick.