Does anyone know how to make a Black Forest?

Tall Tom · 11-07-2006 12:24pm #1

We have this Irish pub here in Philly and they make this incredible Black Forest beer drink that I'm 99% sure is Guinness and Framboise. A friend came down from Boston and I introduced him to this drink and he loved it, so when he got back home, he went out and bought the two beers and is trying to make one on his own and is failing miserable.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Blub2k4 · 11-07-2006 3:52pm

Only girls mess with Guinness.

It's sacrilege here in Ireland to taint Guinness with anything.

Ask in the bar, no one drinks that type of ****e here, they'd be laughed out of the pub.

I remember a German insisted on buying me a Guiness and port one time, he couldn't believe that in over 5 years as a barman in Ireland that I had never heard of such a perversion. (I didn't drink it).

Ask in the pub that makes it.

The Hill Billy · 11-07-2006 4:12pm

Tall Tom wrote:

Any ideas or suggestions?

Stick to this stuff http://www.mylifeisbeer.com/beer/bottles/bottledetail/152/ & stop messin' with our Guinness!

Alternatively, you could mince on over to here http://www.thatsthespirit.com/en/beer/beer_cocktails.asp & whip up an oul shandy for yourself.

pvt. joker · 12-07-2006 11:31pm

i'm from philly too. where did you go? plough and the stars? they use guinness and chambord

pvt. joker · 12-07-2006 11:32pm

Blub2k4 wrote:

Only girls mess with Guinness.

It's sacrilege here in Ireland to taint Guinness with anything.

Ask in the bar, no one drinks that type of ****e here, they'd be laughed out of the pub.

I remember a German insisted on buying me a Guiness and port one time, he couldn't believe that in over 5 years as a barman in Ireland that I had never heard of such a perversion. (I didn't drink it).

Ask in the pub that makes it.

when we were in clare, some local guy was drinking half pints of guinness/coke

The Hill Billy · 13-07-2006 6:48am

pvt. joker wrote:

when we were in clare, some local guy was drinking half pints of guinness/coke

In Limerick they drink full pints of Guinness/Heroin.

Blub2k4 · 13-07-2006 6:54am

pvt. joker wrote:

when we were in clare, some local guy was drinking half pints of guinness/coke

Are you sure it wasn't a black and tan?
Half Guinness and half Smithwicks ale?
Did you assume it was coke?
I wouldn't have served Guinness and coke as a barman, the customer is not always right.

A black and tan is almost acceptable.

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 13-07-2006 7:20am

Anyone tried Black Velvet?
Half Guinness and half Champagne

Blub2k4 · 13-07-2006 9:58am

sean_keevey wrote:

Anyone tried Black Velvet?
Half Guinness and half Champagne

Yep some girls I knew once.
And a bloke, but I'm not so sure as he was wearing a pink t-shirt and carrying a handbag....

noby · 13-07-2006 10:23am

A black velvet always struck me as a good way to ruin two drinks in one go.

In my book, beer's not for mixing.

Evil Phil · 13-07-2006 11:03am

pvt. joker wrote:

when we were in clare, some local guy was drinking half pints of guinness/coke

Who's she exactly?

pvt. joker · 13-07-2006 1:36pm

Blub2k4 wrote:

Are you sure it wasn't a black and tan?
Half Guinness and half Smithwicks ale?
Did you assume it was coke?
I wouldn't have served Guinness and coke as a barman, the customer is not always right.

A black and tan is almost acceptable.

it was def coke. it was a small pub and the guy was in there every night drinking the same thing. we asked the barkeep and he said he drinks it all of the time

pvt. joker · 13-07-2006 1:37pm

Hill Billy wrote:

In Limerick they drink full pints of Guinness/Heroin.

they make liquid heroin now...i'm out of the loop

Blub2k4 · 13-07-2006 3:05pm

pvt. joker wrote:

it was def coke. it was a small pub and the guy was in there every night drinking the same thing. we asked the barkeep and he said he drinks it all of the time

Ah I see now, well it may have been in lieu of real nutrition, a bit like Shane McGowan drinking Peach Schnapps for the sugar content to keep himself going.

pvt. joker · 13-07-2006 3:12pm

Blub2k4 wrote:

Ah I see now, well it may have been in lieu of real nutrition, a bit like Shane McGowan drinking Peach Schnapps for the sugar content to keep himself going.

the guy was a little weird. he's the only one that we met that wanted to talk about politics with drunk americans

Tall Tom · 19-07-2006 2:06pm

pvt. joker wrote:

i'm from philly too. where did you go? plough and the stars? they use guinness and chambord

Frank, you're a twit. It's me, Tommy.

Yes, we all went to Plough on the night you couldn't make it. Sam G. is trying to make it with Framboise.

I do like a pint of proper Guinness from Irelend, but all we get is this watered down stuff which stinks.

Tall Tom · 19-07-2006 2:08pm

Blub2k4 wrote:

Ah I see now, well it may have been in lieu of real nutrition, a bit like Shane McGowan drinking Peach Schnapps for the sugar content to keep himself going.

OK, forgive my ignorance, but who is Shane McGowen? I heard his name in a Christy Moore song (love Christy's - Live at the Point CD)

Gandhi · 19-07-2006 7:28pm

Shane McGowan was the lead singer of The Pogues, then of The Popes, and now (I think) of The Pogues again. Also was married to Kirsty McColl.

He's known more for his spectacular drinking abilities, and his truly gruesome teeth, than his music (which is also quite good).

Blub2k4 · 19-07-2006 9:08pm

Tall Tom wrote:

OK, forgive my ignorance, but who is Shane McGowen? I heard his name in a Christy Moore song (love Christy's - Live at the Point CD)

While to tell too many explicit tales of Shane would probably be against the charter, his life could pose as an example of what not to do, I think it's fair to say that no real food will have passed his lips in years, due to a very heavy drink and drug habit. He's been a heroin addict since he was a kid in London where he was also a rent boy for a while. He sings (of a sort) songs of heroes and republicans and all things romantic and Irish, and he has a mission in life to end like all Irish heroes, a victim of his own excess.

He's a character and a half, although you can see it's taking it's toll these days and his liver is suffering, but people have wondered here for years how he keeps going, but the answer is really the calories in alcohol.

Lead singer of the pogues, who were a great band in the olden days, kinda Irish trad punk.

So that's the Shane McGowan 101.

Tall Tom · 20-07-2006 3:52pm

I listen to the Pogues from time to time, but never knew the lead singer was Shane. Very interesting. His drinking habits would make perfect sense then. Christy Moore did a cover of "Fairytale of New York" and mentions Shane at the very end. Very cool song (be sure its the one from Christy's Live at the Point album though)

I do prefer Flogging Molly though. Great upbeat music.

Sweet Mother of Pearl!!!! I just Googled Shane McGowan and he is one seriously ragged looking guy.

Blub2k4 · 21-07-2006 11:17pm

I reckon anyone who's been doing what he's been doing for as long as he has is very lucky to be alive, he's looked ragged since he's been on the scene in Ireland. I remember a friend describing him drinking from a bottle of brandy at a saoimse cois laoi years ago, he threw up behind a speaker, continued to sing and drink for the rest of the gig. Rock and rolllllllllllll

Does anyone know how to make a Black Forest?

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