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OOP with a big pair. I seem to lose $$

  • 10-07-2006 3:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭


    Full ring online hold'em game, $1/$2 NL.
    Stacks are $200.
    I'm in the BB with KK. Folded to LP player who raises to $8. Folded around to me I make it $23 from the BB, LP calls, headsup to the flop.


    Villain is standard ABC tight and aggressive, a winning player but not hugely. His range is pairs 99+ and AJs+. It's very unlikely that he would call with something like ATs or 67s or 77 in this situation.
    Villains opinion of me is tight and more aggressive than the table average. He likely puts me on JJ+ AKo/AKs/AQs to reraise like this from the BB.

    Flop is QJ6 rainbow. Pot = $47


    I've reviewed the hand historys of situations like this and it seems like I'm having trouble figuring out the correct way to play them.
    Given the hand ranges and Villains image of me, is there a standard way to play this? I lose to AA/QQ/JJ, might get some action from AQ/AJ and likely get a fold from any other hands.

    I hate not continuation betting in these situation though.
    So lead the flop, check-call, check-raise, ??


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    Well you are heads up with this guy now and an overpair is a tasty hand in that circumstance. you gotta think you're ahead with KK, yeah he might have flopped a set of Queens or Jacks or less likely 6s but the chances are that's not the case. It's more likely that if the flop has hit him it will be with a hand of AQ, or AJ, or the less likely KQ.

    You're the pre-flop raiser he expects a bet and you are likely to get action if he has any of the above hands and also he may even bluff raise you - all happy days for you. if you check raise it would be the wrong play i think as it would allow him to get away from the hand and of course if he checks back it allows him to catch up on the turn uugh I hate when that happens :mad: .

    If you check call then you are affectively saying you don't bet your good hands and your bluffs become less believable. The old adage about a caller never wins at poker is one I believe in(in general anyway)

    I choose to bet a standard continuation bet or whatever amount you figure gets him/her to raise you. In fact if he/she just calls you it could be more worrying especially from a tight agro player.

    It's likely that if I did get the hoped for raise - it's probably all-in time depending on size of his raise of course - and just hope it's not one of those times that your kings have been cracked by a set.

    Overall my feeling is this is the right play and if you are up against a loose agro player as opposed to this tight agro player I would definitely play it this way.

    Anyway that's my opinion on it, just wait for it I'm sure you'll get a few replies suggesting the complete opposite ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    You've reraised preflop so lead out. Check-calling stinks of overpair IMHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    ianmc38 wrote:
    You've reraised preflop so lead out. Check-calling stinks of overpair IMHO.
    lead the flop and check call the turn and river against a tight player if your flop bet gets called.
    you dont wanna be playing a big pot with a single pair out of position but your HU and your hand is strong enough to lead the flop with.
    if your flop bet gets called then the tighty likes his hand .what i think is the better action next depends on the villain really.
    if he is the type that will bluff/semi bluff draws or to try to take you off the hand then check/call him.if he is the drawing type and likes his draws and pays for them then bet the turn and check the river.
    basically keep in mind that you dont want the pot to get out of control so dont make any huge bets that bloats the pot out of control.


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