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A 'Grand' Idea (C&C)

  • 07-07-2006 1:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭


    Here are some shots I took this morning inside a grand piano! Well the shots are inside, I was not.. anyway... just thought would share em

    No Strings Attached
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    Change in Lighting
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    Reflection. This is actually a reflection of the strings taken on the lid of the piano, well polished it seems. Not the steadiest or sharpest shot, but just thought you might find it interesting anyway.
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    Anyhoo, more on Flickr. Thanks for viewing.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭mtracey


    Maybe a tighter crop on the first one. Remove the bottom left ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭CONMIKE12


    I really like these,lovely warm colours and good use of light.Nice work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    mtracey wrote:
    Maybe a tighter crop on the first one. Remove the bottom left ?


    I err ah concur. Second one is my favorite anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Good work, the second one is excellent and the lighting is perfect imo. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Calling out for some monotone work, with muchos burning and dodging!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    People photoshop too much nowadays.
    A photo is a photo.
    Love em really nice concept!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    Yea second is my favourite too ! I like the light !

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    People photoshop too much nowadays.
    A photo is a photo.

    That's like saying "People darkroom too much nowadays" :)

    Burning - Overexposing the image onto the developing paper. usually done by leaving the timer on for an extra few seconds, while using a piece of shaped card or your hands to cover what you don't want blackened out. Literally burning the darkened colour onto the paper.

    Dodging - Underexposing some of the image onto the developing paper, can be done in a few different ways, pretty much just by covering the area of the image after the desired amount of time. Pretty much, dodging the light from the paper.

    And if you think people photoshop too much nowadays...check out groups such as F.64 and all...each member spent weeks in a darkroom on a single photo, dodging, burning, bleaching, increasing/decreasing contrast...

    There ain't nothing wrong with using photoshop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Well Im a film B&W purist.
    I dont like PSing pics too much.
    Just me ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    But do you dev and print your own shots?

    Surely you must dodge and burn?

    (I'm not trying to be an asshole if I'm coming accross as one!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Nope I have them done by a lab. Pushing is the only thing Ill have done for extra contrast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Really???

    Have you ever done your own film?

    (and also sorry for taking this so far off topic)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭Paddy@CIRL


    You call yourself a B&W purist and dont develop your own stuff ? I'm sorry but thats hilarious !!

    Really like the second shot, agree with Fajita's that I'd like to see a the shot with some more PP in PS :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


    I process my own film shots but would never try in the lab what I would try in photoshop, the safety of being able to make a mistake and all! But i know I should try, tis all about the learning afterall ;)

    Tried converting a few and was just not happy with the results. Tried few conversion techniques as well, light channels, colour mixer as well as the usuals. Maybe I'll have another go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Paddy@CIRL wrote:
    You call yourself a B&W purist and dont develop your own stuff ? I'm sorry but thats hilarious !!

    Really like the second shot, agree with Fajita's that I'd like to see a the shot with some more PP in PS :)

    Im glad you find it so funny.
    Im not alone in my love for raw B&W shots and being happy with the results I get from a specific lab.
    In fact youll find most people who shoot B&W, inc Pro shooters now process in a decent lab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    440Hz wrote:
    I process my own film shots but would never try in the lab what I would try in photoshop, the safety of being able to make a mistake and all! But i know I should try, tis all about the learning afterall ;)

    Tried converting a few and was just not happy with the results. Tried few conversion techniques as well, light channels, colour mixer as well as the usuals. Maybe I'll have another go...


    Do you find they get very flat, with the photos being grey and black instead of black and white?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    inc Pro shooters now process in a decent lab.

    Couldn't disagee more here. I cant imagine many Pro B&W shooters would let a lab print their shots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Fajitas! wrote:
    Couldn't disagee more here. I cant imagine many Pro B&W shooters would let a lab print their shots.

    Then ya dont know many pro shooters ;)
    Not seemig like an AHole but I actually do know a lot of pro shooters and yes most do process in a pro lab. Some still do their own. But most have found a lab they trust and work with them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Lol, I do know many Pro Shooters... ;)

    And at the end of the day, why would you let someone else decide what happens to your print? Or worse still, not decide at all, to let it come out as a standard print.

    Trust me, if you get the chance, learn how to print B&W... It'll completly change how you see your prints from the lab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


    Fajitas! wrote:
    Do you find they get very flat, with the photos being grey and black instead of black and white?

    When I go with the desat or greyscale yeah a bit. Better when I use light channels or better still with the channel mixer but still the shots just come out stronger enough, even if I go contrast crazy. They are 'OK' but only ok...

    Give it a go by all means, or I am happy to follow some tips. Very much a PS learner, and eager for new tricks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    440Hz, how do you apply your contrast?

    Contrast/Brightness, Curves or Levels?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Fajitas! wrote:
    Lol, I do know many Pro Shooters... ;)

    And at the end of the day, why would you let someone else decide what happens to your print? Or worse still, not decide at all, to let it come out as a standard print.

    Trust me, if you get the chance, learn how to print B&W... It'll completly change how you see your prints from the lab.

    Ah but Pro B&W shoothers ;)
    Chris Weeks for example. He currently owns the largest collection on pro B&W shots in the entertainment industury. Swears by his lab. Ans he is one helluva shooter.

    Oh Id love to learn to print, havent had the chance yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


    Depends on the shot. Have had lots of very successful conversions to date but not with these. With these shots have tried contrast/brightness, then curves (calibrated after mono on channel mixer). Ill upload on i did, prob easiest ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    440Hz wrote:
    Depends on the shot. Have had lots of very successful conversions to date but not with these. With these shots have tried contrast/brightness, then curves (calibrated after mono on channel mixer). Ill upload on i did, prob easiest ;)

    Do!

    I can give a go too, if you'd like.

    Master...You should give printing a go...And then come back and say you prefer your lab shots.

    I hate getting my prints done in a lab, unfortunatly, it's the only way to go in the summer months when I don't have a darkroom!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭440Hz


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    Ok seems I stoopidly didnt save the ones I was playing with earlier so just hacked this one together now. In this case used the channel mixer, brightness/contrast then some slight shadow/highlight adjustment. To me its just to flat, its 'ok' but now as strong as I would like my bw's to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Right, I plan to be asleep in the next few minutes, so I'll go into more detail tomorrow (Have to be up for work in 5 hours... :( ) but, go back into channel mixer, remember to play about with the red setting. Then go into your curves, and play around with a very loose S shape, you'll get the idea very soon ;)

    From there, there'll still be a few areas you want more highlights in. Select your dodge tool, put it to 10% tops, and select highlights, and run it over the areas you want highlighted. Similar with dodging, except select shadows.

    It takes some getting used to alright. Remember to do all this this on separate layers, so you can use your blending options to play about a bit more!

    The dodge/burn will strengthen lines and you can really make people look where you want them to look with it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    I prefer the b/w one as well.


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