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The Burning Questions

  • 05-07-2006 12:38am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭


    my oh my, of everything i have heard here i am still amazed that the "mediums" have never asked any spirits they have come across the burning issues/questions such as

    1.whats it like to be deceased
    2.is there a heaven/hell
    3.what is the 1 true religion

    Why are those questions never asked can anybody fill me in kindly ?

    The reason i have asked about the Religion is that some ppl here have said they have met Spirits who just came back for personal reasons etc, so where did they come from? If from Heaven surely they would find out upon entering the Kingdom what the 1 true Religion?

    Its amazing to me and im not taking the piss here,

    Regards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    3.what is the 1 true religion

    Surely this depends on the spirits beliefs, or if they even have any?

    Anyway the above aside, how would you feel if you were told that there is no concept of religion in the spirit world/plane?

    I get the impression that we're not supposed to know the answers to some questions just yet, because our minds at the current stage of development wouldn't be able to take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Kennett wrote:
    Surely this depends on the spirits beliefs, or if they even have any?

    Well, you'd think they'd be able to answer some of the questions. Like, they should know if theres a heaven or a hell... Or are they just floating around killing time in this world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Perhaps, but you never know what's beyond this plane of existance. For all we know, heaven and hell could be called something completely different there!

    There could also be worse places to be than hell also!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Kennett wrote:
    There could also be worse places to be than hell also!


    yeah Roscommon.


    However all that said It seems mediums constantly ask the same questions. The OP has a point. Why not ask

    "are heaven and hell known as different things in the spirit world"
    "whats it like to be dead"
    "what do you mean its cool"
    and
    "is there a supreme being"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    my oh my, of everything i have heard here i am still amazed that the "mediums" have never asked any spirits they have come across the burning issues/questions such as

    1.whats it like to be deceased
    2.is there a heaven/hell
    3.what is the 1 true religion

    Why are those questions never asked can anybody fill me in kindly ?

    The reason i have asked about the Religion is that some ppl here have said they have met Spirits who just came back for personal reasons etc, so where did they come from? If from Heaven surely they would find out upon entering the Kingdom what the 1 true Religion?

    Its amazing to me and im not taking the piss here,

    Regards.

    How do you know mediums have never asked those questions? Have you gone and asked any mediums?

    This forum tends to have people with an interest in the and people who have had varying experience but I dont think anyone here calls themselves a medium.

    There are plenty of mediums online who would be happy to answer your questions but its up to you to go find them, rather than presuming they havent questions spirits in the manner you've suggested.

    Personal I'm glad to have the experiences I do but I would never think to ask and to be honest I'm not bothered with the answers - i'll live my life the way i see fit regardless of what faces me in the after world. Knowing spirits are there is enough for me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭blahblah1234


    Does anyone have a contact email address for any Mediums, I'd be interested in asking one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Google is your friend ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Deer


    I don't think we're supposed to know the answers to those questions to a certain extent. I mean for example if we knew for certain that there was a hell and we had done some fairly bad things would you like to live knowing for the rest of your life that you were going to burn in hell? Or if we knew that there was no hell then one would live their lives doing what they wanted in the knowledge that they wouldn't be paying back for it afterwards. With regards to what it's like to be dead - can you answer the question - what's it like to be alive?!

    I really can't talk though. I'm a great one for going to fortune tellers and mediums to find out what the rest of my life is going to be like. I also probably shouldn't be doing this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    I think it's a reasonable question for afterlife believers to ask and I don't really understand those who believe in an afterlife yet have no interest in what it might be like. If you were told that you would be transported to, say, Mongolia, I would imagine most people would want to get a bit of information on said country. If you meet people from another country it is fairly natural to want to know a bit about their customs and way of life.

    I don't personally have much interest because I don't believe in an afterlife although I'm interested in how people think about these things.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Deer wrote:
    I really can't talk though. I'm a great one for going to fortune tellers and mediums to find out what the rest of my life is going to be like. I also probably shouldn't be doing this.
    A medium wont tell you what the rest of your life will be like. (Sorry, pet peeve)

    I have asked those questions (but dont call me a medium) but if I tell you what I got as the answers you may still not be satisfied. You may feel its just my ideas im spouting. Thats always a possibility. You dont get answers like this as a cut and dried thing anyway, questions like that are so literal, and I dont think the spirit world works like that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭IrishAirCorps


    6th wrote:
    How do you know mediums have never asked those questions?

    Personal I'm glad to have the experiences I do but I would never think to ask and to be honest I'm not bothered with the answers



    If Mediums knew it would be of great benefit to people to know there is a place called Heaven and it would make people live their lives better if there is a Hell so they could avoid going there.

    Why are you not bothered with the answers? why dont you want to know who created us if there is 1 true Religion, i think we were put here to find those answers its just some people are that closer to finding out ( mediums ) and i think they should share it with the world, imagine all the wars that could be stopped if people knew what the 1 true Religion is etc etc, it would mean alot to alot of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    But if you believe that Catholicism is the one true religon then surely you dont believe in medium - are they not false profits?

    Sure the Catholic church tells its followers there is a Heaven and a Hell ... is that not enough from a devout follower like yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Again I repeat ... have you contacted any mediums to ask them?

    As for me not being bothered by the answers ...... can we not just enjoy what "god" gave us?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭IrishAirCorps


    KatieK wrote:
    I have asked those questions (but dont call me a medium) but if I tell you what I got as the answers you may still not be satisfied.


    Well if you truly knew and the answers you got were honest then whats wrong. People would have to be Satisfied if it was the truth.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    If Mediums knew it would be of great benefit to people to know there is a place called Heaven and it would make people live their lives better if there is a Hell so they could avoid going there.

    Why are you not bothered with the answers? why dont you want to know who created us if there is 1 true Religion, i think we were put here to find those answers its just some people are that closer to finding out ( mediums ) and i think they should share it with the world, imagine all the wars that could be stopped if people knew what the 1 true Religion is etc etc, it would mean alot to alot of people.
    It wouldnt stop wars, and might create a few more. How many people in history have already been killed/martyred because they believed they were followers of the one true religion?


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Well if you truly knew and the answers you got were honest then whats wrong. People would have to be Satisfied if it was the truth.
    God bless your naivety (sp?) Id be called a nutter by most.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Well if you truly knew and the answers you got were honest then whats wrong. People would have to be Satisfied if it was the truth.


    Who judges what is the truth? Simple fact is IrishAirCorp is you will not get the answers you are looking for ... but how will that affect how you live your life?

    Maybe joining the priesthood will give you the answers you need - from one perspective anyway.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Thanks 6th for being more lucid than me.;) Was trying to make the point that one mans truth (from whatever source) is another mans blasphemy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    6th wrote:
    Who judges what is the truth?

    I know Irishaircorp is thinking on a more global level ... but what about the personal, what effect would these answers have on the medium

    For myself if a "medium" told me they were in contact with spirits, and had been informed that such and such happened in the afterlife, I probably wouldn't take any notice.

    However, I'm also curious why people in contact with spirits don't find these things out for themselves (maybe some do, but it's generally not talked about). Is there a fear that you will have your own beliefs mirrored by the spirit, perhaps creating doubts that you're not actually contacting spirits, but rather parts of your subconcious?

    What if they're told something completly contrary to their own beliefs .... do they put it down to a mischievous spirit?

    What if another medium has been told something other than what you were told .... is he/she lying? mental?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Of course this all come from the idea that there is only "1 true" answer to any of these questions ... which is fine, for a limited mind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    6th wrote:
    Of course this all come from the idea that there is only "1 true" answer to any of these questions ... which is fine, for a limited mind.


    But you're missing the point. There might be 1 true answer. There might also be 758 different answers, 758 of which might be true.

    But unless people ask questions, there'll be no answers. That's the point. (at least my point)

    You could argue that the most limited mind is the one that isn't asking questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I can understand people curiosity but the Op hasnt asked any mediums and is presuming they there are no answers. If anyone wants to know they can step onto a path of psychic development themselves or seek out the answers in another way.

    My stand on it is: I dont need to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    My stance is similar to 6th's, though that said, I also believe that if people are meant to know, then they are told when the time is right, and not before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    But as people who do investigations, surely it would be helpful to know where spirits are coming from ... if you get my meaning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    people who do investigations tend more to look at the phenomenon surrounding the "spirits", or the effects of the "spirits" on the enviroment i.e. temperature changes, readings, sound, visuals etc.

    Where they come from and what their purpose is is a differnt matter to a point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    okay ... I'm asking this from a fairly ignorant stand point (and completly off topic), but do the people who do investigations, just record what happens? or do they actively try to find other reasons for what happens during a haunting?

    My only reference point is something like Most Haunted, but I never would have classed anything they do as investigating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    we look at other reasons, no point in saying a light going out was a ghost if the bulb just blew.

    If an investigator doesnt have common sence then s/he doesnt have much.

    I'm not always happy with the term investigation myself as sometimes I see it as a little disrespective to the spirits. In saying that alot of what goes under the term investigation is more of an "experience field trip".

    Now this is going a little off topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    Why require a medium to answer such questions? Sure, around 2000 years ago the Son of God, came down and told us the way things are. Why believe a medium over someone like Jesus?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭solas


    my oh my, of everything i have heard here i am still amazed that the "mediums" have never asked any spirits they have come across the burning issues/questions such as

    1.whats it like to be deceased
    2.is there a heaven/hell
    3.what is the 1 true religion

    Why are those questions never asked can anybody fill me in kindly ?

    The reason i have asked about the Religion is that some ppl here have said they have met Spirits who just came back for personal reasons etc, so where did they come from? If from Heaven surely they would find out upon entering the Kingdom what the 1 true Religion?

    Its amazing to me and im not taking the piss here,

    Regards.


    ah sure I'll give it a go.

    1.whats it like to be deceased
    depends on what your expectations are. If you mean do we have physical bodies and think about what we're going to have for dinner tomorrow night then I figure such concepts are irrelevant in terms of existance on the scale of things. Try to consider how it is to be alive and do it as if you were explaining it to a snowflake. (maybe not a great analogy but it's the best I could come up with at short notice)

    2.is there a heaven/hell
    yes and no, the concept of various levels of existance still apply in terms of spirituality, heaven being state of unification with **"God" and hell being a state of complete seperation. Then again there's the concept that we are never really seperated from **"God" and that "hell" is just the illusion that we are. and then maybe all of it is all an illusion. As it is in life there are certain "resonances" which are more in concordance to being happy and healthy and others which denote disharmony and as the world of spirit is said to exist in terms of energy, it's not unreasonable to apply that kind of understanding. Although I'm sure at some point or another everything is aligned in unison.

    3.what is the 1 true religion
    Many people say that love is the universal language, the one which every tongue speaks in equally and which transcends all boundaries and limitations. If thats the case wherever a religion speaks in that language, you'll probably find some universal truth there too.

    "Why are those questions never asked can anybody fill me in kindly ?"

    Semantics most likely, people can't agree on what terms they would like to use so they tend to make life complicated by disagreeing with each other.


    "The reason I have asked about the Religion is that some ppl here have said they have met Spirits who just came back for personal reasons etc, so where did they come from? If from Heaven surely they would find out upon entering the Kingdom what the 1 true Religion?"

    I guess some people just need some kind of validation, it seems to ease their fears about death and such and it's usually fear that keeps us seperated from "entering the kingdom", regardless of religion or beliefs.
    I have met some "spirit who seemed to be highly evolved in terms of having massively huge joyous and "heavenly" light vibrations. Then again, maybe it was just that energy was a personal relationship within my own level of understanding, though if heaven is being reunited with those we love then that will do me fine.

    "Its amazing to me and im not taking the piss here,"

    I think they're good questions, I just think most people feel the truth is a personal thing and subjective at the most. What do you think?


    **who is that "God" bloke anyway?
    kernel wrote:
    Why believe a medium over someone like Jesus?
    I tend to agree, it's all the same stuff just different languages. If christianity is the languge your more familiar with it would probably be easier for you to learn about these things through it.


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