Do you always tip?

[Jackass]

Orderd a pizza tonight, hanging from last night and couldn't wait to enjoy a nice pizza infront of the telly watching the football while I relax for the night.

So "delivery boy" arrives and pretty much shoves the pizza into my chest.

Delivery Boy: 15 euro (dosen't say please)
Me: Yeah, no problem, I'll just grab my wallet. (take pizza inside)
Delivery Boy: *tut*
Me: There you go (hand him 15 euro) cheers man. (no you're welcome or thanks)
Delivery Boy: (looks into his open palm and shakes his head like I just handed him a steaming pile of poo...walks down my drive just as I'm turning my back and closing the door) "Fu*king wanker".

Eh, What?

This lad has a serious problem, and a seriously bad attitude. I didn't take him up on it at the time, and I don't regret it and I'm not going to call the pizza place and complain about him, because let's face it, we've all worked sh*t jobs we hate and half the time you deal with dicks, so I'm gonna give the guy a break.

But I was talking to my mate about this....Who the f*ck is he to come to my house and *expect* me to overpay to subsidise his wage packet?

Ok, a medium size pizza cost 15 euro with "Free delivery", but they have a walk in special, where the pizza actually costs 11 euro....so in otherwords, I've already paid 4 euro for this guy to come to my house, so If he's not getting paid for it, take it up with your boss, but don't give me your sh*t!

The odd time if it's say 14 euro and I'd have a 5 and a 10 i'd just say keep the change, but even that never seems to be enough!!

I don't have a charity sign outside my house!

Also, on a side note, do you tip in resteraunts if there is a service charge on the bill?

Another thing that wrecks my head is I can't even take a p*ss in a nightclub or pub anymore and wash my hands without being put in the awkward position of "tipping" or face the attitude!

If I use the aftershave I'll tip you, If I use the chewing gum, I'll tip you, but I'm not paying for the privelage of buying 5 euro pints, needing to piss, the water out of the tap and drying my hands...I'm sorry, but I just wont!

I'd say the only time I tip is when I get a taxi home...If your man is good craic or chatty or whatever, I don't mind giving a extra 2 or 3 euro.

Am I a tight asshole, or does anybody agree with me here??

Also, I'd like to through a great movie quote from resevoir dogs about tipping...sums up my attitude very well...

Resevoir Dogs wrote:

NICE GUY EDDIE
C'mon, throw in a buck.

MR. WHITE
Uh-uh. I don't tip.

NICE GUY EDDIE
Whaddaya mean you don't tip?

MR. WHITE
I don't believe in it.

NICE GUY EDDIE
You don't believe in tipping?

MR. PINK
(laughing)
I love this kid, he's a madman,
this guy.

MR. BLONDE
Do you have any idea what these
ladies make? They make ****.

MR. WHITE
Don't give me that. She don't
make enough money, she can quit.

Everybody laughs.

NICE GUY EDDIE
I don't even know a Jew who'd have
the balls to say that. So let's
get this straight. You never ever
tip?

MR. WHITE
I don't tip because society says I
gotta. I tip when somebody
deserves a tip. When somebody
really puts forth an effort, they
deserve a little something extra.
But this tipping automatically,
that ****'s for the birds. As far
as I'm concerned, they're just
doin their job.

MR. BLUE
Our girl was nice.

MR. WHITE
Our girl was okay. She didn't do
anything special.

MR. BLONDE
What's something special, take ya
in the kitchen and suck your dick?

They all laugh.

NICE GUY EDDIE
I'd go over twelve percent for
that.

MR. WRITE
Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've
been here a long ****in time, and
she's only filled my cup three
times. When I order coffee, I
want it filled six times.

MR. BLONDE
What if she's too busy?

MR. WHITE
The words "too busy" shouldn't be
in a waitress's vocabulary.

NICE GUY EDDIE
Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last
thing you need is another cup of
coffee.

They all laugh.

MR. WHITE
These ladies aren't starvin to
death. They make minimum wage.
When I worked for minimum wage, I
wasn't lucky enough to have a job
that society deemed tipworthy.

NICE GUY EDDIE
Ahh, now we're getting down to it.
It's not just that he's a cheap
bastard--

MR. ORANGE
--It is that too--

NICE GUY EDDIE
--It is that too. But it's also
he couldn't get a waiter job. You
talk like a pissed off dishwasher:
"**** those ***** and their
****ing tips."

MR. BLONDE
So you don't care that they're
counting on your tip to live?

Mr. White rubs two of his fingers together.

MR. WHITE
Do you know what this is? It's
the world's smallest violin,
playing just for the waitresses.

MR. BLONDE
You don't have any idea what
you're talking about. These
people bust their ass. This
is a hard job.

MR. WHITE
So's working at McDonald's, but
you don't feel the need to tip
them. They're servin ya food, you
should tip em. But no, society
says tip these guys over here, but
not those guys over there. That's
bull****.

MR. ORANGE
They work harder than the kids at
McDonald's.

MR. WHITE
Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning
fryers.

MR. BROWN
These people are taxed on the tips
they make. When you stiff 'em,
you cost them money.

MR. BLONDE
Waitressing is the number one
occupation for female non-college
graduates in this country. It's
the one jab basically any woman
can get, and make a living on.
The reason is because of tips.

MR. WHITE
**** all that.

They all laugh.

MR. WHITE
Hey, I'm very sorry that the
government taxes their tips.
That's ****ed up. But that ain't
my fault. it would appear that
waitresses are just one of the
many groups the government ****s
in the ass on a regular basis.
You show me a paper says the
government shouldn't do that, I'll
sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll
vote for it. But what I won't do
is play ball. And this non-
college bull**** you're telling
me, I got two words for that:
"Learn to *****n type." Cause if
you're expecting me to help out
with the rent, you're in for a big
****in surprise.

MR. ORANGE
He's convinced me. Give me my
dollar back.

Ruu_Old

I tip quite well, but to a grumpy bast0rd like you had to deal with, I wouldnt give him the time of day.

Thread on tipping, not that long ago

Nalz

No wouldnt tip, not unless it was an amount between €13.50 and €14.99 then tell s/he they can keep change...they're gettin paid to provide a service

Ruu_Old

Trilla wrote:

No wouldnt tip, not unless it was an amount between €13.50 and €14.99 then tell s/he they can keep change...they're gettin paid to provide a service

Some food delivery places offer very little wages and tips are the only way people can make any sort of money, so most of the time it doesnt bother me too much.

Huggles

Yes I tip, a bit stupidly at times but usually won't tip a w@nker.

Heyes

If in a restaurant i always tip, how much will depend on the service. I tend not to really tip on deliveries... and i would tip if i used some of the products in a nightclub toilet. but only once, even if used more than once.

Huggles

Now i have to go and put Reservoir Dogs on now................:D

Mr. Presentable

I'd advise against ordering from that company again, unless you LIKE gob on your pizza.

constitutionus

i never tip, ever. the feckers get enough in the call out charge. the only time i tip is to lounge staff and even then its only to the ones who actually show a bit of initiative. theres two girls in my local ,which does a large trade, and i dont have to order off em anymore. they just bother to remember and thats worth a tip to me. same in the place i get my breakfast before work, straight in and they order for me without me having to say a word. thats good customer service and i'll reward that
this whole idea of mandatory tipping is just some PC crap imported from the states. our minimum wage is way higher than the yanks and though its no fun living on it you dont need tips to live like there so i dont see why i should be guilted into coughing up cash because the more overpaid people in society think i should, or worse some unscruplous employer is counting on so he doesnt have to pay a wage you can live on

[Jackass]

nipplenuts wrote:

I'd advise against ordering from that company again, unless you LIKE gob on your pizza.

Big time! I used to always tip..but I'm sick of this sh*t and ungrateful when I do tip and it's only a euro or two...you didn't earn it, at least say thanks.

I may call that pizza place advising they have a security seal over the pizza box saying "If this has been tamperd with, do not accept delivery" before it's passed on to the delivery boy.

And Ruu, for the record, I don't think I'm being stingy or an asshole...that dude was deffenatly the asshole and my new attitude is only tip when it is earned.

But cheers for the link, didn't see that

qwytre

I rarely tip taxi drivers, unless the fare was say 19 euro and I give them a 20 euro note. Why would you tip a taxi driver, the fares are high enough. Unless they helped with loading luggage or something. I've had too many asshole drivers maybe. I remember one time the taxi driver didnt have change of a 20 euro note (it was a 10 euro fare), he drove me up the road about 200 yards in order for me to go in and get change and then he dropped me back to my house, and that was on the meter. Charged me an extra euro or something because he didnt have change. Asshole!

Another thing that really bugs me is the state of some taxis these days, some of the cars are filty, very old, and smell of ciggarettes. Cant wait to get of them sometimes. There is one particularly decent taxi driver in Lucan driving an Avensis, he is the model of a decent taxi service. The car was very clean, he was very well dressed, didnt yap his head off during the journey but just made occasionally nice conversation and seemed to take his job seriously. I did tip him.

I would nearly always tip in a restaurant, 10-15% unless the service was poor.

Sofaspud

I was in a club last week, and there was one of those guys in the jacks. I went into it the first time, gave him a little change that I had in my pocket, I went in again about an hour later (bladder like a walnut) and the guy was asleep.

He was sitting on his stool, fast asleep. He didn't notice me in front of him, he only woke up when I leaned across him to dry my hands, and he went "umm, use dis, umm" while I was on my way out the door.

Volvoboy

when i used to work for a classy delivery place in gerry ryan country, id rarely get a tip, doesnt realy matter if the customer tips or not i'd still be polite please/thankyou. also the better tippers are in working class areas not the rich folks well thats how the rich stay rich!!!!!

-VB-

Lust4Life

As I was reading your original post I was thinking about that scene in Resivior Dogs, and viola! You had it at the end!!!!! Hee hee!

I used to waitress, so yes, I always tip something. Usually 15% in a restaurant. Pizza guys maybe 10% of the bill because you are right - what did they do other than their normal job?????? Whereas waitresses can be run ragged fetching drinks and whatnot.

Pub Tenders? Oh, yes, you gotta tip them so they run to you next time!

Ever see the movie WAITING? After watching that, I will NEVER EVER send my food back to the kitchen if it is not done right!

L4L

sheepshagger

Nope, I don't tip. . . .dont reckon your stingey for not doing it, the pizza delivery guys alreday getting paid, as for the giys in the pub toilets. . .it fu*ks me off when you turn around from taking a pi*s and the're there waiting with a towel, just so they can get a tip :mad: :mad: :mad:

InFront

Ive never tipped anyone in my life. Unless you count letting them keep the change or something? I cant afford to tip and dont eat in nice places so the question doesnt arise. (Im a student I cant help it:) ) Tipping is crazy like americans.

leeroybrown

In a restraunt without a service charge I'll always tip unless I get bad service. In a resturant with a service charge I usually won't tip. In a cafe or bar I might tip if I get polite and fast table service. When I get delivery it usually takes sufficiently long that I don't feel like tipping and if I did my tip would be some small change from a note.

sheepshagger

qwytre wrote:

Another thing that really bugs me is the state of some taxis these days, some of the cars are filty, very old, and smell of ciggarettes. Cant wait to get of them sometimes. There is one particularly decent taxi driver in Lucan driving an Avensis, he is the model of a decent taxi service. The car was very clean, he was very well dressed, didnt yap his head off during the journey but just made occasionally nice conversation and seemed to take his job seriously. I did tip him.

I would nearly always tip in a restaurant, 10-15% unless the service was poor.

Had a mate who got a taxi home after working late, the driver pulled into a petrol station all of a sudden, got out, went inside (leaving the mate in the car) he then came out, got back in the car and restarted the journey . . mates thinking WTF ?. . it works out the driver needed to use the toilet in the petrol station (but it wasnt avaliable). . . mate could smell something dodge in the car (as hes being taken home via the M50). . .the driver had SHAT himself and continued on the journey (20 mins). .. . mate had to wind down the window so he could breath. . .lets just say the mate didnt tip that taxi driver !!!

humanji

I go out for meals with my mates (up to 20 of us in total), and even though there is always a service charge added nowadays, my mates still add extra. Now if the service and meal were really good, then I've no problem. But I don't like the tip being added automatically. Like, what would you do if you got in a taxi, drove to your destination and the driver said "Ok that's €20 and with tip that'll be €22!" You'd tell him to feck off!

Lemlin

I do tip and the most surprising thing about it is.... I'm from Cavan. Worked some ****ty jobs though so I know how good it is sometimes to get a tip.

I actually try to give tips to people who work harder than waitresses etc. For example, I knew 16 year old lads in an electrical store I worked in who would carry out 32 inch TVs, sometimes having to take them out of the box to fit into a tiny-ass Punto or dragging them round a car park, and wouldn't even get a cent. They used to get tipped about once a year.

It's workers like that, who don't normally get tipped, that I try to tip.

jrey1981

I tip if I think it is deserved - taxi drivers or in a hotel, restuarant or café.

In the case the OP described I definitely would not have.

Good manners cost nothing.

I think occasionally it can depend on the mood I am in and whether I am feeling generous, and if people are nice to me and the service is good, then that obviously helps win me over.

ed6hellsfresh

tbh tho there is no way id tip in most circumstances, mainly due to the fact that i work in a supermarket, and i have more social interaction with most, im as nice to customers as i can be, and regularly help them with stupid enquires etc, carry bags to cars and such alike, but i dont get tipped ever, so it grinds my gears to see other people get tipped, merely due to tradition in certain jobs

Sangre

Absolutely hate the tipping culture in America. People getting paid crazy money for totally unskilled work. Also leads to people being really 'fake' nice all the time.

Creamy Goodness

i mostly collect food from places like that, don't want any nasty delivery boy surprises in my food.

on the other hand i don't think i'd tip anyways, they get minimum wage which is pretty good compared to america where waiters and delivery boys get 4 dollars an hour (my brother is a bar tender) they rely on tips, the irish don't...

ThrownAway

It depends. If I'm a bit broke after a night out and the cab driver clearly rips me off I'd get a bit pissed off and give him the exact amount and ask for the change if necessary.

When I'm drunk I drop tenners into beggers hats. Sometimes when I'm really hungry and have been waiting for a pizza to come I get so happy just to see the pizza I tip the pizza guy. ESPECIALLY IF HE'S HOT.

CyberGhost

I always tip...... Pizza guys, delivery guys.... hookers...

Feenikusu

In restaurants I usually tip, and I haven't been in many other situations where I could. But it depends on the service...

RefulgentGnomon

Regarding the Reservoir Dogs quote, I thought it was Mr. Pink making those comments which are attributed to Mr. White. Am I wrong?

Smoggy

tipping is a load of s**t, I have an interest ina restaurant and the girls often walk away with €60+ in tips, its been know that they have walked away with over a €100. Not bad going for 7 hours work + minimum wage.

Also f**k tipping taxi drivers, the prices they charge they should be tipping me.

The people who should be getting the tips in restaurants and work the hardest are the kitchen porters and they rarely see a cent of the tips.

So to get some extra € off me you better be sucking up real well and provide exceptional service ! otherwise its part of ur job and you can .........

Do you tip the bin man when he empties ur bins ? or a fella you see cleaning the toilets just after you have used it ? Why tip some people and not others, the dude stacking shelf in Tescos shows me where a tin of beans is , do I slip a €5 into his pocket ?

grimloch

Last night, earlier on this morning in fact, was the first time that I have ever tipped a taxi driver. I can't think of any situation where I would tip off the top of my head.

Smoggy

there are places in dublin center (wont mention them) i have heard of 1st hand that take the tips in and use it to pay out staff minimum wage !!!!

Wishbone Ash

I'm normally the last one to defend taxi drivers but:

Also f**k tipping taxi drivers, the prices they charge they should be tipping me.

The driver does not set the rates.

Smoggy

Taxis - Doesnt stop it being exortionate and at the end of the day the money is going into thier pocket, who ever sets the price. Definatly not worthy of a tip in my book.

tails2

Wishbone Ash wrote:

I'm normally the last one to defend taxi drivers but:



The driver does not set the rates.

and to add to that:

so fooking what, almost all taxi drivers keep what they earn. they work for themselves. and they pay little tax because the government dont know how much they actually earn. there is a tax bracket and most of them are at the very bottom paying very low tax. a few mates dad's are taxi drivers so i know. i hate tipping. i worked my ass off in several jobs and never got tips. try working in xtravision for over two years, workin your ass off having to listen to customers moan about the stupidist(sp??) things and i never got tipped.(and no i didnt get to just sit watching movies all day, it was a busy job. no time for movies.)

Terry

regarding taxies, i normally use hackneys.
the standard for a trip from my house to Leixlip village is €5. sometimes i'll throw an extra euro in, if i have it.
got one from my cousins house to the off liscence and back again. i was expecting a €12 charge (5 each way and 2 for the stop), but the driver only charged €8. he got a €2 tip.

i always tip the lounge staff in my local, if i'm out for the night and have lots of money with me. they get really crappy wages, something like €20 for a five hour shift. i was paid £10 for a five hour shift 14 years ago. they split the tips, but they are all really good at their jobs, so it evens out. intelligent bunch too. one of them just got a degree in biochemistry (or something) from trinity. i think she's still working in my local until she gets her masters.

pizza delivery, sometimes. depends where i get the pizza from. i tip the guys from the village because i know they are on crap wages. their boss in a known tightwad.

€7-10 tip in the local indian restaurant because the service is beyond excellent and the food is top notch too.

bush

Its bollocks, no way will I tip. My sister gets 250 quid a week from tips on top of her wage, ridiculous.

Sleepy

It kills me, I totally disagree with tipping yet I do it anyway, My ex used to waitress in the summers during college and would give me savage grief if I didn't tip so I got into the habit of it. Like the guys above say though I rarely got tipped during my time in minimum wage jobs so I don't see why a waitress/waiter should get a few hundred extra a week for a job no more difficult than many I did in college.

bluto63

TheGooner wrote:

Now i have to go and put Reservoir Dogs on now................:D

Hehe, same. I love that film...:)

Gazza22

I generally try to tip....not always with a food delivery unless it's like a euro change.
But i would always tip in a bar or restaurant, i'd find it rude to just walk out without giving anything unless you have got bad service!
Oh and the nightclub toilets, nightmare, i always tip the first time but like then they just pi$$ me off then staring into my face everytime i go down! :rolleyes:

stepbar

Never ever, ever, ever tip

Siogfinsceal

I rarely tip things are so dear over here as it is why should I pay more at the prices they are charging for services surely I can assume the tip is included. went to a restaurant at weekend it was average i had a pizza which cost 15 euro and was ok. for 2 main courses, 2 desserts which were not nice and 2 drinks it was 80 quid. when I went to use the laser machine there was a button where you had to press yes or no to a tip. i pressed no. 80 for an average meal and they expect a tip as well I dont think so. I a taxi driver or delivery person was exceptionally nice id round it up a give them 2 or 3 europ but thats an exception - why should we be obliged to pay extra for a service. I work on the phones, should I expect a tip if Im noce to a customer? this kind of **** ruined the usa i hope it doesnt start coming in here

seamus

Delivery people will only get tipped from me in the same capacity as you - bill is €14.20 and I only have €15 for example. Increasingly I have noticed them giving dirty looks when I hand them the exact change and say thanks. I don't see why they deserve to be tipped - the biggest wait for my food is them cooking it. If anything I should tip the chef when my food arrives promptly.

In a restaurant, how much they get tipped is a function of how well I've been served, and whether there's a service charge or not.

I have four scales:
1. Awful service. No service charge, then I give no tip. If there is a service charge, I may choose to not pay it (though this would require truely awful service).
2. Standard service. I give a small tip, usually around 5%. If there's a service charge, I give no tip.
3. Good service. I give a standard tip, usually around 10%. If there's a service charge, I give no tip.
4. Outstanding service. I give a good tip, usually between 15% and 20%. If there's a service charge, I make it up to 15% or 20%.

While that scene from Reservoir Dogs is classic, it doesn't apply here. Minimum wage laws mean that waitresses/waiters make enough money for the job that they do. If they're particularly good at their job, then their tips will reflect the extra work they put in.

Black Swan

Always tip? Depends on the service. Can remember giving someone 25% for truly grand service, and only once leaving someone a penny (because they were so rude and I wanted them to know that I didn't forget to leave a tip).

Chinafoot

My sister came back from her honeymoon in Jamaica recently and told us about a cafe they went to while they were killing time before their flight home.

They handed the waitress their credit card and she tottered off inside and came back about 2 minutes later to ask "Would you like me to put the tip on the credit card, miss?" My sister was not impressed.

Ireland isn't really a tipping nation though, when compared with places like America at least. People in that area of work here make a decent enough basic wage that they don't need to rely on tips.

If I'm in a retaurant I'll tip unless the service was dismal. If I get a take-away, they can keep the change.

Trix

i'm a bit undecided about tipping. if i go out for a meal and the food and service is good i don't mind tipping. however I was out for dinner with friends last year and my friend was practically having a heart because we were only leaving a 25 /euro tip(i can't remember exactly how much). now our dinner was at 7 and we didn't get our main course till 9 and they expected us to be out of the restaurant by half nine. the owner was throwing us weird looks until we left. I thought the tip was plenty considering. Now again i don't mind tipping but i think its expected now and people have forgotten what the point of it is..

Archeron

Me and 2 mates went for a meal in a place in Temple Bar. Meal was adequate at best, and the staff were snotty as they get.

Total bill came to €88, and we put down €100. We intended to tell the waitress to keep the change when she came back. She didnt come back, so out of principal, I asked her where the change was. Her curt answer was
"well I presumed that was the tip". This woman was not in any way pleasant.
I then told her that it would have been the tip had she not been so damn cheeky about it, and insisted on our change back, which we then gave to a homeless guy outside.

I dont mind tipping, but i hate people who think they're entitled to some of your money despite crappy service and attitude that stinks like the liffey in July.

Degsy

I did that with a guy in restaraunt in parliament street,there was 4 quid in change due and he didnt bring it to the table.We put our jackets on a nd got ready to go whereupon he starts waving us out the door,i said,"sorry but you havnt given us our change" whereupon he looked like he was going to eat me and pissed off to the tips jar which he proceeded to noisily remove teh change from.Now i'm not scabby but that isnt just presumptious its actually stealing.Imagine what would happen if you left the bill 4 quid short,chances are they'd call the police.Customers should say "well i was a good customer,i didnt run you into the ground,what about knocking 20% off the bill?" or better yet ASSUME they owe you a reduction and leave them short!!

JustCoz

I would usually give the pizza guy an extra euro or two but wouldn't give them anything if they're rude. I wouldn't tip if the service charge is already included

SingingCherry

I often feel awkward in situations like that. If someone is rude to me then they don't get a tip. People tell me all the time that they don't tip delivery people unless they have an extra euro laying around, but what about people who deliver your groceries? Tesco charges €5 for the delivery, but are you expected to tip the driver as well?

Alessandra

How mean are you people? Have none of you ever worked a low paid thankless job? Fair enough if you are a student or poor but surely everybody can afford to leave a tip to a waitress, toilet attendant or pizza boy? I am a student and give at least 1 euro as a tip when eating out in a restaurant. I tip taxi drivers if they are friendly and nice which I generally find they are. I become absolutely mortified when someone doesn't tip in a reataurant. I mean its just courtesy. Lots of people have to put up with crap from customers all day for little pay, whats the problem with leaving a little extra? I especially hate those people whose bills come to 19.30 etc and hand a 20.00 and put their hand out for change cringeworthy and cheap. Having worked plenty of low paid jobs, I realise the value someone leaving a tip however small can be. Dont be so stingy!

seamus

Alessandra wrote:

Lots of people have to put up with crap from customers all day for little pay, whats the problem with leaving a little extra?

I've worked in plenty of low-paid jobs, and never been tipped (cos I've never been in a serving position). The problem with leaving a little extra is the concept of earning. They already get paid.
Whether they deserve a tip or not is a function of how well they treated me. I go to a restaurant to have a good time with friends. The food is only a part of it. However, having food thrown at me or a server who is snotty and rude can ruin that night (or at least that portion of it). If they do their job well, they can enhance my night out, and thus I'm happy to give them a little extra for doing that. If a guy calls at my door to deliver food, his demeanour will have very little effect on mine. I'm not going to tip someone for simply doing their job.

I spend a lot of time calling to people's desks in work. By most measures, I don't get paid a lot of money. Should I then expect a tip from everyone whose computer I fix? Why not? Because that's my bloody job!

I especially hate those people whose bills come to 19.30 etc and hand a 20.00 and put their hand out for change cringeworthy and cheap. Having worked plenty of low paid jobs, I realise the value someone leaving a tip however small can be. Dont be so stingy!

I feel no shame in waiting for 20c change from a delivery guy. If I put down a €50 note in a restaurant and the change was 10c, I'd be offended if they didn't return with that change - it's basic manners.