Can my ISP see what I'm download on p2p?

fluppet

I'm on holiday in another country at the moment; a country when the internet is censored. Do you think my ISP can see what I download using p2p?

Thanks

andy1249

Yes , they definitely can ,

Ruu_Old

I believe they can, careful what you are downloading now.

Agent Smith

expect to see this A LOT If Your In the UAE.


also, try and Check out any pages with an Isreal Top level Domain (.il)

Most are basicly blocked....

Ponster

Yes they can but I don't think a lot bother to do so. What they can see though is what type of traffic you're generating. They can see if it's emule, ftp or bittorrent regardless of what port you're using and limit your bandwidth based on that info rather than the actual content.

andy1249

You are currently in a country where they " bother " to censor the internet , when a government will go to that length they will definitely check what is being downloaded ,

It depends where you are , if its China for instance I wouldn't chance it , they will arrest you for downloading anything considered subversive !! Dont turn your trip into a nightmare for the sake of internet content.

fluppet

Thanks for the replies <closes emule>. It must be pretty complicated for the ISPs to work out what you are downloading, though... emule (and most other similar p2p programs) download files in parts.

Ponster

fluppet wrote:

Thanks for the replies <closes emule>. It must be pretty complicated for the ISPs to work out what you are downloading, though... emule (and most other similar p2p programs) download files in parts.

Naa, it's pretty easy these days. The just need to sniff the first couple of packets to know what kind of traffic it is unless you're using a program that encrypts it's traffic (such as some bittorrent clients)

irlrobins

fluppet wrote:

I'm on holiday ... download using p2p?

Wow, must be any action packed holiday....;)

netwhizkid

irlrobins wrote:

Wow, must be any action packed holiday....;)

As a person who has only limited broadband (one-way Satellite) I must have spent absolute ages on the Internet while in New York last year mostly due to the fantastic speeds. I found it to be fascinating and was the first thing I missed upon my return to Ireland from New York.

sarahn11

ouch...i didnt realize they could!!!

so what bittorrent software encrypts it??

do our wonderful government here bother to check what we are downloading?!?

masteroftherealm

Na, it requires quite a deal of effort to roll out on a national scale due to the fact the restrictions require POPresence Proxies on a national level.
Your safe here

Gone West

netwhizkid wrote:

As a person who has only limited broadband (one-way Satellite) I must have spent absolute ages on the Internet while in New York last year mostly due to the fantastic speeds. I found it to be fascinating and was the first thing I missed upon my return to Ireland from New York.

lol.
:rolleyes:

Gone West

masteroftherealm wrote:

Na, it requires quite a deal of effort to roll out on a national scale due to the fact the restrictions require POPresence Proxies on a national level.
Your safe here

not so fast there sailor...
I know of an ISP or two where the employees routinely look at the traffic of individual customers.

masteroftherealm

FuzzyLogic wrote:

not so fast there sailor...
I know of an ISP or two where the employees routinely look at the traffic of individual customers.

Not without a warant they dont!
Or at least not in the 3 that Ive looked at contracts with!
Cant speak for the rest!

Gone West

masteroftherealm wrote:

Not without a warant they dont!
Or at least not in the 3 that Ive looked at contracts with!
Cant speak for the rest!

contracts mean nothing.
techs get bored.
not all isps are nationwide.

I guess its actual life experience vs book experience?

masteroftherealm

FuzzyLogic wrote:

contracts mean nothing.
techs get bored.
not all isps are nationwide.

I guess its actual life experience vs book experience?

Very little book experience here ;p

Meh I dont mind bored net techs looking, hell done/do that myself

Ponster

Utorrent is your best bet for encryption.

Gryzor

or use a service like jap....seems to be the sort of thing your looking for....

can really slow your connection down though...

/edit...actually scratch that...they only want to provide annonimity for general surfing, instant messaging and the like....

File sharing and other peer-to-peer programs (for example, KaZaa, Morpheus, EDonkey)?

No, anonymization is not possible! The potential for abuse (for example, in the form of copyright infringement) is too high and we want to use our limited personel resources for the research project rather than for dealing with complaints.

Furthermore, such services require a very large bandwidth and thus cause significant costs.

^whitey^

Just use encryption. You can enable encrpytion in Utorrent with two clicks of the mouse and it even speeds up downloads if your trying to pull from alot of clients who have outbound encryption enabled.

Mutant_Fruit

it even speeds up downloads if your trying to pull from alot of clients who have outbound encryption enabled

Sounds like you have "compression" and "encryption" mixed up. Enryption does not speed things up, it slows them down. There is no scenario where encrypting something to transport over TCP/IP would speed things up unless you were applying compression beforehand. And even still most BT material is precompressed, so the benefits would be minimal. You might save a few mins over a few hours of downloading.

Capt'n Midnight

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

Enryption does not speed things up, it slows them down.

Some routers compress traffic to save bandwidth on dedicated links, modems do this too. Encryption guarantees you loose any benefit as properly encrypted traffic cannot be compressed.

^whitey^

Nope dont have compression and encryption mixed up.

I think you misread my post. Sure the technology doesn't speed things up.

But take Scenario A)

Some providers (Don't know about Irish ISP's) throttle P2P traffic, if you have encryption turned on they can't see the traffic and therefor can't "QOS" your link.

Scenario People all around the world are turning on encryption on their clients. If you don't accept incomming encrypted traffic you wont be downloading from clients who have outgoing encrypted traffic.

gnashrr

What are you people so concerned about hiding from your ISPs anyway? When the FBI bust the supplier of this stuff in America they're going to have your credit card details and pass them to the Gardaí! Rename this the "Brian Curtain and Friends" thread.

masteroftherealm

The OP was in a country with restrictive internet policys!s

gnashrr

masteroftherealm wrote:

The OP was in a country with restrictive internet policys!s

Tell it to the judge. Ho ho ho.