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telemarketer gets OWNED!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    i used to work in a call centre and i hate f*ckin idiotic b4st4rds like that, if someone calls you and you dont want to talk to them, be polite about it, no need to flip for nothing, the telemarketer or whatever is only doing his job and trying to earn some money, odds are he's probably a student or something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    but he's also a soul soliciting pig ****er who's calling people all day long to bother them about ****e he knows damn well they're not going to care about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Bastards from feckin 02 keep ringing me when i'm on the toilet,in the shower or other incredibly inconvenient places.Same with the bank,thier whole sugary tone makes me want to spew and no,i havnt got a moment to ****ing spare you unctuous scumsucker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    kdouglas wrote:
    i used to work in a call centre and i hate f*ckin idiotic b4st4rds like that, if someone calls you and you dont want to talk to them, be polite about it, no need to flip for nothing, the telemarketer or whatever is only doing his job and trying to earn some money, odds are he's probably a student or something.

    I think he was probably polite the first few times they rang - then when they didnt get the message and kept ringing back he flipped the lid. Fair play to him.

    If your ringing up people because your trying to sell them something/make money out of them somehow and they havent asked you to ring them up then you have no right to complain about how people react to you disturbing them in their own homes.imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    holy f00k, i hate that too. Theres a number of a department in eircom that you let you go exdirectory, if anyone know it :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    Morlar wrote:
    I think he was probably polite the first few times they rang - then when they didnt get the message and kept ringing back he flipped the lid. Fair play to him.
    fair enough, the place i worked, we would only call someone back if they agreed to it, otherwise they were off our call list
    Morlar wrote:
    If your ringing up people because your trying to sell them something/make money out of them somehow and they havent asked you to ring them up then you have no right to complain about how people react to you disturbing them in their own homes.imo.

    thats cold-calling, and not legal in most countries, the numbers came from places that people had signed up for and willingly provided their phone number to be contacted at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    I have a feeling that in many casees that would have been buried in the fine print somewhere - if you honestly asked someone if they want their phone number sold as part of a contact list to telemarketing/telesales companies - the answer would be no.

    In this case - the person HAD asked to be removed from their calling list and they didnt do it - possibly as an office prank to get any new hires to ring the poor sod knowing he would flip the lid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Hot damn, threatening much.

    I like the way the telemarketer gets in little "ok"s and "no problem"s here and there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭abetarrush


    kdouglas wrote:
    fair enough, the place i worked, we would only call someone back if they agreed to it, otherwise they were off our call list



    thats cold-calling, and not legal in most countries, the numbers came from places that people had signed up for and willingly provided their phone number to be contacted at.
    That not true, all phone companies call my house. Companies Buy phone numbers off others as each call is a potential sale


    I personally fxckin depside telemarketers, or the peopl in town who come up lookin for money for concern

    I jus say "No thanks im already concerned" or That im 15 :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Ring your phone supplier, by law they are obliged to stop marketing calls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭aidan_dunne


    I used to get called all the time by the likes of Tele2 and similar companies asking if I wanted to change over my home phone service to them. The first few times I was polite with them and said that I wasn't interested, then when they kept calling I asked them to remove me from their lists and to please not call again, which they agreed to do.

    However, they obviously didn't bother removing me from their list as they continued to call. One day when I got another one of these calls I decided to try using a classic Jerry Seinfeld line on them.

    Caller: "Hello, could I speak to the bill payer please?"

    Me: "Yes, speaking."

    Caller: "Hi, this is Collette from <insert phone company name here>. I was just wondering if I could have a moment to tell you of the savings you could make on your home phone bill if you were to switch your service to us. For example, if you make a lot of international calls, our rates are considerably cheaper than eircom's."

    Me, feigning interest: "Really? Well, that does sound interesting. Unfortunately, you caught me at a bad time as I'm just heading out the door. Tell you what, why don't you give me your home phone number and I can call you later tonight at home and we can talk about it a bit more."

    Collette, possibly sensing a stalker on the line or something!: "Well, ummm, I can't really do that you see."

    Me: "Oh, and why is that then? Is it because maybe you don't want complete strangers to have your personal number and be calling you all time?"

    Collette: "Well, ummm, in all honesty, yes."

    Me: "Yeah, well, now you know how I feel!" <hangs up abruptly>

    And, believe it or not, I haven't been bothered by them since. Now I use the same tactic with any of the other companies who call me and it seems to have worked pretty well so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    Yea but the funny thing is, if you act the dick to a telemarketer, chances are they're laughing their holes off at you and marking you down on the "call repeatedly" list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭aidan_dunne


    Well, that Jerry Seinfeld trick seems to have done the opposite for me because they probably all have me marked down as some sort of smart arse now and not worth bothering calling anymore. Don't think I've had a repeat call from any of the companies I've used it on in over 6 months or so now. And I used to get at least one a week from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    That clip was so funny :D
    Fair play to the guy.
    PiE wrote:
    chances are they're laughing their holes off at you
    Maybe, but I've been verbally owned like that before when I worked in tech support... and it's not funny in the slightest when you have to stay calm and professional.

    Having said that, telemarketers are scum and deserve it... just because it's your job, that doesn't absolve you of any personal responsibility for what you do.
    Go find a job that doesn't make the world a worse place to live in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭j4vier


    the clip is funny alright, but from my external point of view.
    the guy from bt doesnt really care either about what bt offers either, he just says
    it because he is paid to do so and he certainly doesnt deserve an answer like that.
    I dont think that the person who answered should be really appreciated, but maybe thats just me ...
    When im pissed off I ll just ignore people,i dont waste my time covering them with insults


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 spongerob


    hehe.... funny clip alright.....

    i seem to get inundated with telemarketer type calls at the mo.... normally im nice and say thanks but no thanks... but lately i just ask them to hold on a sec because ive another call on the line and just leave the fone down (on mute) on the desk and go about my day.... generally they hang up after 10 mins, one called back once and i did the same again.. "sorry im still on the same call as earlier" hehe...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭neoB


    Damn right that was funny. And to be honest you can be ever so polite and the fecks will still keep chatting away like they didnt hear anything. So thats when I have to either hang up or turn on the ole charm and tell them to **** off. I did that as work to, it sucks but god bless, let it go when they say no. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Flex


    Thats hilarious. Iv been rang by telemarketers a couple of times too, not often enough to drive me mad yet though :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Most exellent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    i work in a call center and we get people ringing in now and again just like that. when they start off like that i love to keep it going because it angers them so ****ing much even though they start the whole thing. stupid ****ing idiots


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭Zhane


    We get calls from Eircom all the time, and 95% of the time its the same guy! The strange thing is...We are already with Eircom!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    I live in the land of telemarketers, the good ol' USA. I dont have a landline in and dont intend to either, the mobile will do just fine. The worst thing is recorded messages, at least put a real person talking to me instead of a damn machine. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I'd say those cold callers are only good for perverted types who do the whole heavey brething etc thing on the phone. Saves them having to call anyone themselves and adds a certain spontanaiety to their lurrrve lives. But for the rest of huminitá - urgh. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    abetarrush wrote:
    That not true, all phone companies call my house. Companies Buy phone numbers off others as each call is a potential sale

    Actually, if they are doing that then you've also indicated on some form elsewhere that they may share your data with others. Read what you are signing in future and watch who you are giving your details to.

    abetarrush wrote:
    I personally fxckin depside telemarketers, or the peopl in town who come up lookin for money for concern

    Yeah, despise the people doing the ****ty work and not the company that hires them to do it. Very clear headed of you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    nesf wrote:
    Actually, if they are doing that then you've also indicated on some form elsewhere that they may share your data with others. Read what you are signing in future and watch who you are giving your details to.




    Yeah, despise the people doing the ****ty work and not the company that hires them to do it. Very clear headed of you.


    well if bubbles paid me money to [beat up your mother would you be angry at me or bubbles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Mordeth wrote:
    well if bubbles paid me money to [beat up your mother would you be angry at me or bubbles?

    Hmmm. If it was commission only, I'd forgive you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    j4vier wrote:
    I dont think that the person who answered should be really appreciated, but maybe thats just me
    I think he's saying what a lot of people are feeling, which is why people can relate to it... I know I've felt like that when a previously clean email account starts getting its first few spam emails. :mad:
    j4vier wrote:
    When im pissed off I ll just ignore people,i dont waste my time covering them with insults
    Like someone else suggested, he was probably polite the first fifty times they rang him... I can't imagine someone snapping like that during their first or second call from these shower of bastards.
    I've never 'let someone have it' like he did, I'd be more reserved about it like yourself, but a part of me would absolutely love to let rip on someone who's píssing me off... it'd probably be more healthy than bottling it up for years, then one day snapping and killing someone for skipping you in the que at the bank. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    nesf wrote:
    Actually, if they are doing that then you've also indicated on some form elsewhere that they may share your data with others. Read what you are signing in future and watch who you are giving your details to.

    Except I used to get them on a number that never got given to anyone on any sort of form. It was, however, in the phone directory, and most of the cold calling came from the States. The rest were all market research surveys.

    I went ex-directory and the problem has gone away.

    I can only assume therefore, that being listed at all is dangerous if you want to avoid being cold-called. My mother is constantly getting calls from the UK. Clearly some people must be responding positively to them, otherwise they wouldn't waste their time and money paying people to do it.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I would absolutely Love to get that guys number and call him pretending to be from BT and try to sell him loads more services. I'd say he's close to having a heart attack!

    No one really likes telemarketers but they are just doing their job, no one deserves to be treated like that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    No one really likes telemarketers but they are just doing their job
    A job that they chose to apply for, chose to take, choose to do every day and continue to do long after they've realised it písses people off.
    I refuse to believe telemarketing is the only job someone could possibly get in any given situation.
    And if a crappy entry-level paycheck is enough to clear their conscience after the reactions they hear, then they're total prícks in my book.
    no one deserves to be treated like that.
    If the clip is anything to go by and they pushed this guy to breaking point... what does that tell you about the way he was treated?
    If one screaming "fúck off" response is enough of a wake up call for an individual telemarketer to see what he's collectively a part of... then I think it's bile well spent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Jesus, what a wanker. Does he actually think that's more effective than just hanging up straight away? I've only had a few telemarketers ring me but as soon as the first line is out of their mouth I just respond with "please remove my number from your system" and hang up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Smoggy


    I always get Eircom ringing me asking me who I have gone to and wether hey can poach me back. But I like those calls as they go :

    Eircom : "Hello, im calling from Eircom to see if we can make you a saving on your phone bill ? Who do you currently use?"

    Me : "UTV, my phone bill is about €10 + line rental, as I get free evening and weekend calls to Ireland and the UK."

    Eircom : "oh , er um. Yes. We can't do anything for you there. Thanks for you time"

    Me : :D:D:D

    When will they learn :D ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭FillSpectre


    From working in a call centre I can honestly say that people aren't meant to be bothered but bad management creates annoying calls and bad handling. First off maybe call back gets changed to call back if there are no numbers left. They put preasure on the reps to not cancel people of call lists unless they have actually asked not to be called back. Reps also get bothered by people so they put them in the call catergory to call back, people press the wrong button. The IT guys can make mistakes with lists and you get duplicates.

    All these things combined mean it is a really nobodies individual fault. Loads of individuals making judgment calls outside of procedure or plausable deniability.

    Head guy: We need more customers
    No.2: We'll make the sales guys call more
    No.3: WE don't have enough numbers I'll get the IT guys onto it
    IT guys: It will takes us a few weeks to remove all the depulicates
    Sales guys: WE need numbers
    IT Guys: Reuse the numbers you can we just changed all the "maybes" to call
    Sales Guys: WE used them already
    IT Guys: We don't have time to take out the duplicates
    Sales guys: No.2 hired more people in here to make calls becasue he wanted more calls .
    IT Guys: Well here it is but there may be some duplicates
    Sales guys: Complete sales are down
    No. 2: What but we hired more people?
    Sales Guys: WE didn't get enough
    No.2: Why not
    No.3: THey used them too much
    Sales: THere were more of us
    Head Guys: My mother in-law has been phoned 6 time and each time she said no!
    Sales: Well that is ITs fault
    IT: We were rushed and the reps are putting things in that aren't correct
    No. 3 : It is an issue of training
    No. 2: They aren't being supervised correctly
    Head Guy: We need more sales the sales figures are down and stop annoying potential customers.

    The limited number of potential customers has lead to a bit of a frenzy. I just got 3 months of broadband free after complaining correctly. Nobody is out to do a bad job but downward pressure is often over looked. It is very difficult to tell your boss something should not be done let alone can't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    That was funny, I can relate with that guy but still felt a bit sorry for the BT lad. You can just imagine him going off the the toilets for a good cry :D

    Anyway, to stop unsolicited marketing calls, simply contact which ever company you pay your line rental too and ask to set a preference in the National Directory Database (NDD) of no marketing calls to your number. You don't have to go ex-directory and in fact, even if you do, you'll still be in the NDD and available to receive marketing calls. God ole' Comreg set up the NDD as an opt-out database and the telecoms companies should have contacted everyone regarding it. I got a letter from BT but I don't know anyone with Eircom that got such a notice.

    I was getting dozens of (mostly missed) calls, every day, from MBNA, Sky, Smart Telecom and Eircom too. Since opting out of the NDD, none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭pyramuid man


    Well I can understand his frustration. People in the uk pay alot of money to have an ex directory number and if you keep getting calls, it is annoying.
    Although I have had customers like that who have called me and then it is uncalled for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I keep telling eircom not to keep ringing me to let me know that they've noticed ive been with a different company for the last three years

    do they listen?
    do they fork :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Telemarketers irritate the crap out of me too, but I think that guy's reaction was uncalled for. It was verbal assault for God's sake.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    Tele2 broke my heart (and the mother in laws) for weeks. So I took the necessary steps to get us marked "no-cold calls" on the NDD (national directory database ) and then proceeded to take my own revenge..

    Ring them on their freephone number , out the call on speaker whilst on hold, ring them using the VOIP phone , put it on speaker beside the first one, wait for the 20 mins for one of the calls to be answered and listened to the confused "that's ourhold music, how am I hearing our hold music...?"

    Rinse and repeat happy in the knowledge that they'll be paying for the call..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭FillSpectre


    parsi wrote:
    Tele2 broke my heart (and the mother in laws) for weeks. So I took the necessary steps to get us marked "no-cold calls" on the NDD (national directory database ) and then proceeded to take my own revenge..

    Ring them on their freephone number , out the call on speaker whilst on hold, ring them using the VOIP phone , put it on speaker beside the first one, wait for the 20 mins for one of the calls to be answered and listened to the confused "that's ourhold music, how am I hearing our hold music...?"

    Rinse and repeat happy in the knowledge that they'll be paying for the call..

    A genius stroke:rolleyes: I love nothing more than wasting my time on a petty revenge that wouldn't bother me. I am sure you think this would shatter their egg shell minds but I doubt it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    He's a telemarketer! GET HIM!!


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