Violence

blahblah1234

I'm interested to know has anyone here on boards with experiece with ghosts, have they had any violent experieces with them that physically harms them or have heard of one, I have heard of one:

It's that a ghost raped and beat this girl when she went into her house, people didn't believe her for obvious reasons, but one day she went with her friend into the house but when they were separated at one point, the friend heard screams, she ran in and saw the girl been thrown violently against the wall.

I don't know if it's genuine, but most people I know have heard of it, anyone else have any "physical ghosts"?

6th

This incident you discribe, is it someone you know or is it a friend of a friend thing? Or did you read it somewhere.

Kernel

From what I've read (that's the qualifying statement for 'cannot say for sure' ), there has never really been any cases of people coming to serious harm in haunting/poltergeist situations. There are cases of things been thrown in the vicinity of people, or of scratches, pushes etc.

Sexual assaults like this one, however, are mentioned in a couple of alleged demonic possession or infestation cases which are documented. I'd be pretty skeptical about this report, however.

6th

I'm really going out on a limb here but i can't bring myself to believe that story for a second. There are reposts of people being moved across a room and like Kernel said, scratches etc., these are assault to to suggest an actual rape (and all that would entail) I t doesnt hold water with me.
Ok possession is one thing where some carries out an act and "claims" to have been acting under the influence of demonic forces.

More details of the story would be need for it to be taken seriously and i seriously doubt those details are there to get. Again I have to ask if you know of this incident through anything more than hearing or reading about it 4th. 5th, 6th .... 1000th hand.

mysteria

In the case in Galway I was involved in, 2 of the familly woke up with scratches but I'm not convinced they were paranormal in origin, not deliberate I know but it is possible to interpret everything as paranormal when people have phenomena happening in their home. Anyone can scratch themselves accidentally in their sleep. It is very rare for physical injury caused by the energies in disturbed houses, in fact I did'nt believe it was possible. But the 1st time I investigated Charleville Castle about 10 years ago, I was doing an O.B. with a station. 4 of us were sleeping in the same room, I was on a big double bed. Around 3 a.m. I was becoming extremely bored as nothing at all was happening. I'd tried contacting the Spirits no result. So I laughed and said something like " I don't believe this. This is supposed to be one of the most haunted places in the world and theres no-one here. I've seen more paranormal activity in a 3 bedroom semi-d in Rathfarnham". My bed stood up on it's side and I ended up in a heap on the floor, looking up I could see a laughing face....it was more like leering at me, a male head with a very large forehead, surrounded by 3 small forms, women or children. After the initial shock reason set in and we tried to see how the bed could have got into that position. It was standing on it's side, we tried all sorts of ways to get it back up like that when we had it in it's proper position but no luck. And I was sore for days! Another person I know whose case was in my first book had a visitor who was whacked on the head by a plaque that flew off the wall across the room at him, while he was taking the p**s out of the stories he was being told about phenomena in the house. The most famous cases of all of "Spirit" violence, to my knowledge, were made into films. 1 called "Incubus" a good few years ago about a girl who'd been molested by her uncle, a priest or pastor. When he died his spirit continued to molest her. I'm sure the movie was an exaggerated version of the story but it was based on a factual case. Like one called "The Entity" which sounds exactly like the story you mention. But I always say we have more to worry about from the living than we have from the dead!

6th

With regards to physical disturbances by spirits i think one of the best cases in The Enfield Poltergiest and in resent times The Mackenzie Poltergiest. I've been on the tour of the area of the Mackenzie Poltergiest and were as i have no doubts its very active i dont feel the energy is that of George Mackenzie, its just a handy name for the entity. last count 189 people have collapsed in the Black Mausolium but you can get more info here: http://www.blackhart.uk.com/cotd/poltergeist/
I've read the book that goes along with this and its unquestionably an amazing and scarey place.

mysteria

If anyone has had experiences in places they've investigated or even just visited, I'd love to hear of them, so would b1234 who posted the original topic. There are millions of books out there but while some of them are genuine, many are just money spinners. The original question asked for "experiences with ghosts" not "books about ghosts".

6th

Actually it asked for expeiences with ghostly violence, its not a common thing so to point someone towards well know and documented cases is probably his best bet for decent amounts of info. As for recommending books in the 8 posts so far on this i'm the only one to mention a book and that was just to show I ahd looked up info on the place.

If you want to just hear about peoples experiences with ghosts check out this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054896242

As for the Op like i said he asked about violent ghosts as the thread title shows.

mysteria

blahblah1234 wrote:

I'm interested to know has anyone here on boards with experiece with ghosts, have they had any violent experieces with them that physically harms them or have heard of one, I have heard of one:

It's that a ghost raped and beat this girl when she went into her house, people didn't believe her for obvious reasons, but one day she went with her friend into the house but when they were separated at one point, the friend heard screams, she ran in and saw the girl been thrown violently against the wall.

I don't know if it's genuine, but most people I know have heard of it, anyone else have any "physical ghosts"?

Anyone have any violent/physical experiences with ghosts? At least 2 people on the board would like to hear of them.;)

6th

6th wrote:

I was working at a holiday camp in Cork and woke up when i felt my mouth being force open. I could move a little but it was really difficult as i felt someone was sitting on my chest with their knees holding my arms down. As i said i could struggle and feel the resistance. I could see, hear and feel a figure on me with their hands on my face, at my mouth.
The thing is i could taste their fingers and they were close to my face, so close i could smell his breath.
Somehow i knew that it couldnt actually hurt me (or i convinced myself it couldnt) and tried to relax, i prayed but only when i started to pray out loud (which i could now do, having not tried screaming i dont know if i could). I felt the figure pass down through me and through the bed, feeling the release as it left. I was awake but lay there for a while after about 10 minutes i got up and went out side to get some air. I didnt fall back asleep that night and told no one about it.

Ok heres a violent experience i had, posted it in another thread but will repost it here. Hope it meets the criteria.

my_house

i once lived in a house in Derry where, though no-one was physically hurt, there was a lot of stuff thrown about by an unseen force, plus there was a quare bit of wall banging happening too. didnt actually hurt anyone though

mysteria

6th wrote:

Ok heres a violent experience i had, posted it in another thread but will repost it here. Hope it meets the criteria.

If there's a medical board this could be suitable there as this seems to be a perfect example of "Sleep Apnoea" or "sleep paralysis". Very very rarely paranormal in origin, this type of experience is often caused by childhood trauma, anxiety etc. Presences, often described as "evil" are frequently described.

6th

mysteria wrote:

If there's a medical board this could be suitable there as this seems to be a perfect example of "Sleep Apnoea" or "sleep paralysis". Very very rarely paranormal in origin, this type of experience is often caused by childhood trauma, anxiety etc. Presences, often described as "evil" are frequently described.

You ask for peoples stories and then try pass them off. You made out this thread was for sharing experiences so I gave in, have a good look through the forum and you'll see we've discussed sleep paralysis at lenght.

You've given your opinion on my experience and in doing so knocked it as a paranormal occurrance? how do you expect people to feel free to come to this thread and tell their stories?

mysteria

Could you stick to the topic please you've been warned about this before.

mysteria

my_house wrote:

i once lived in a house in Derry where, though no-one was physically hurt, there was a lot of stuff thrown about by an unseen force, plus there was a quare bit of wall banging happening too. didnt actually hurt anyone though

May I ask was the house anywhere near the Derry walls? I've had loads of reports about activity around there and will be doing more work in NI with NIPRA. Thanks.

GuanYin

Mysteria.

I or T4TF will do the moderating here - if you have issue with a post report it - it is not your business to correct posters.

If you two start at it again, I will be ruthless.

Mysteria, you asked for experiences to share and then dismiss one off hand, I seriously hope you're not trolling.

If yo have issue with this post, PM me. DO NOT POST REPLYING!

Now, back on topic.

6th

blahblah, heres a link to a wiki entry for The Enfield case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfield_Poltergeist

No one who's heard of it can deny the impact it had on the area of the paranormal as a poltergeist case which ticked all the boxes.

GuanYin

Mysteria banned - one week.

PM me does not mean post (twice) on a thread complaining.

Zillah

blahblah1234 wrote:

It's that a ghost raped and beat this girl when she went into her house, people didn't believe her for obvious reasons, but one day she went with her friend into the house but when they were separated at one point, the friend heard screams, she ran in and saw the girl been thrown violently against the wall.

Sounds like the Entity case. Apparently it was an actual episode that transpired, they then made a book about it, and then a movie. Its become very much a pulpy part of modern culture and its hard to know what to take seriously. Heres two links that should give you a good feel for the situation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_Moran
http://www.geocities.com/inhell_2000/entity.html

The second one is pretty horribly formatted, but the actual text is well written and informative, I suspect they just copied it from elsewhere.

Mysteria wrote:

"Sleep Apnoea" or "sleep paralysis".

Sleep Apnoea is a different thing altogether. Its when people stop breathing during their sleep. Sleep Paralysis paralyses the skeletal muscles, meaning you can't move your limbs etc, but you breathe fine. Theres often a phantom pressure on your chest, but you can still breathe.

Ziycon

Sounds like chinese whispers which started from a film!

6th

It does have a hint of Urban Ledgend but like i said there have been cases of extreme violence but i think the idea of raped by a ghost make people very weary to believe.

In saying that some things can make you feel "raped" without the action taking place.

Zillah

Ziycon wrote:

Sounds like chinese whispers which started from a film!

Nope, the film definately claimed to be based on a true story, so there was something. Unless they were outright lying of course.

Nevyn

I have both felt and seen the very physical effects that spirits and other 'enties' can have.
I have been hit, slapped and shoved and have seen someone slammed into a wall.
This was when I was a lot younger and used to go off exploring haunted places and using various dubious means to contact 'things'.
This was before I learned to see and sheild properly.
The most notible one being a blow to the temple when I was lying in bed that knocked me out.

my_house

http://radiocrackle.com/index.php?id=224 - interesting radio interview with Keith from TAPS (Ghost Hunters on discovery) discussing demonic experiences which include violence against people

6th

Like i said the violence is very real concern and people hhave to take certain precaustions.

my_house

thats what yer man in my last post was saying too. kinda off putting :eek:

GuanYin

Zillah wrote:

Nope, the film definately claimed to be based on a true story, so there was something. Unless they were outright lying of course.

Film is a pretty poor adaption of a book by Frank De Felitta (who wrote the far superior Audrey Rose - another "based on true story book" - this time about reincarnation) which was based on a true story.

blahblah1234

Well as regards the "raped girl story", it wasn't someone I knew, I thought it occurred in America, but from the people I have heard of it, they were certain that there was significant proof when they heard the full story but then again I can understand if people are skeptical, but isn't believing in Paranormal rid skeptics!?, anyway, nice to read the different articles on Paranormal Violence, from all the cases that were brought up, I would have to conclude that at least one of them must have some degree of paranormal activity, I'll see if I can find more stories related.

As regards 6th, your probably right, you can feel raped but when you have significant medical evidence, that eclipses that statement.

kshiel

No never hurt physicaly. Remember going to a castle close to where I lived as heard very haunted place. Actually few of us slept out there one night. Now we were young so only went to see what might happen. Very interesting place. Not much happened that night but felt someone more a child followed me home. Suffered from nightmares for years after that. Well I thought they were nightmares. Not to sure now. Anyway use to feel the presence of people in the room and sometimes beside me in my bed. Felt a couple of pinches and kicks but never had any brusises to go with this. Again I did feel someone holding me down some nights this can be really really scary as I remember really trying hard to push what ever it was off (I was only about maybe 13-14)at the time. Did not feel it was a sex attack or anything but somewhat like 6th I prayed to everything good in the world to help and that seemed to work but this continued for months and months on end and everytime I prayed it went. Its strange now cannot remember when actually stopped.

6th

Ok heres a gallery of images taken by people from the Mackenzie Poltergeist tour in Edinburgh: http://www.blackhart.uk.com/cotd/gallery/

On a side note i'm thinking of doing a trip to Edinburgh in November so if people want to join in just pm me - lets not hijack this great thread.

imprezza

6th wrote:

Ok heres a violent experience i had, posted it in another thread but will repost it here. Hope it meets the criteria.

But that is'nt violence. I know someone who had a ghost in her house and the mirror broke a sharp piece of it shot into her foot.she was cut very badly and had stitches in it.

6th

So violence is only is an actual injuring is incured? ...... being held down against you will and having your face pulled at isnt?

I hope you're not a Garda or a Judge.

GuanYin

More suited to the english forum, but violent behaviour doesn't require a victim or even a subject for the violence.

You can be violent while alone in a room.

imprezza

6th wrote:

So violence is only is an actual injuring is incured? ...... being held down against you will and having your face pulled at isnt?

I hope you're not a Garda or a Judge.

No I'm the stupid guy who asked if you believe in ghosts.

6th

Use pm if you have a problem or report a post if you ahve a problem with it or me.