badge or no badge

oleras

just a quick vox pop........... do you prefer to have a badge on the boot detailing model and spec, eg e220 cdi, 525i or nothing, you know afterall so why advertise it ?

me, prefer to have nothing.

oleras.

p.s. maybe a mod can add a poll if they like, i dont know how...lol

mikedragon32

Our current car is badged and it has never bothered me.

I know we could have ordered it debadged at the time, but we didn't think about it. Then again it's only a 1.6 so nothing to shout about.

Perhaps if I had a more powerful car I would think about having it debadged.

I don't think you're advertising anything with the badge anyway. People who know their cars will be able to tell the model/spec anyway.

So I guess if a poll is created for this, I will choose Atari Jaguar.

Eoin

Tough one - don't have a particularly powerful car, but if I did get it debadged, people would probably assume it's the baseline 316 which always seems to get debadged.

Wishbone Ash

mikedragon32 wrote:

Perhaps if I had a more powerful car I would think about having it debadged.

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I don't understant the logic of that as the cc will be on the tax disc (if taxed).

layke

Im debadged,

My car looks a lot cleaner imo.

Eoin

Actually, doesn't the baseline Mark IV golf come debadged as standard (engine size badge)? Only the 1.6 and up come with engine size badges from what I can tell...

Wishbone Ash

When I bought my car it was unbadged or debadged so I rebadged it as I thought it didn't look right. Each to his own I suppose.

el tel

When I see a debadged car I aways assume it's the crappiest model in the range. In fact debadging is not too far removed from cars having fake badging on them.

Wishbone Ash

el tel wrote:

When I see a debadged car I aways assume it's the crappiest model in the range. In fact debadging is not too far removed from cars having fake badging on them.

Hear Hear - 316 Beamers with M3 badges!

mikedragon32

Wishbone Ash wrote:

I don't understant the logic of that as the cc will be on the tax disc (if taxed).

True, but someone would have to come up to the windscreen to see the disc.

As I said earlier, I didn't think about it when ordering my car and it wouldn't be even on my list of criteria for choosing my next car.

It's not that important, although when you consider that boy racers like to debadge to conceal their puny Micra's 1 litre engine, perhaps thats a valid arguement to badge your car!

Anan1

Debadged. It's easier to clean, and it doesn't bring out the competitive streak in kid drivers.

Owen

Those who know, don't need to show.

layke

mikedragon32 wrote:

It's not that important, although when you consider that boy racers like to debadge to conceal their puny Micra's 1 litre engine, perhaps thats a valid arguement to badge your car!

Careful now, not all car modders are 17 and drive micras.

All of my mates cars who drive suped up Integras are 24+. All debadged too.

mikedragon32

layke wrote:

Careful now, not all car modders are 17 and drive micras.

All of my mates cars who drive suped up Integras are 24+. All debadged too.

Where did I say car modders?

I recognise the difference between someone who takes time to work on the engine (as well as the bodywork) and teenagers who debadge and put a wing on their mother's Micra or Charade!

Not to mention fartcans!

Ernie Ball

I've removed the Toyota cowboy hat from the front of my MR2 and replaced it with a J-Spec one that looks like the black one here:



I'm not in love with the logo or meaningless "midship runabout" Engrish, but I really hated that big cowboy hat and it's mounted into holes in the bonnet, so you have to replace it with something.

I've also taken the Toyota badge off of the back and left the MR2 badge and replaced the steering wheel cowboy hat with one that also says midship runabout.

It is pretty entertaining to watch people trying to figure out what kind of car it is. I may yet remove the MR2 off the back and also replace the cowboy-hatted wheel caps. I kinda like the no-logo look.

5500

Ive taken mine off too,front and back.Chances are some little scrote would pull off the vtec badge at some stage anyway for there bmx so i beat them to it!

Henry Ford III

Leave the badging on. Tell the truth.

Wishbone Ash

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Hear Hear - 316 Beamers with M3 badges!

Are you sure they are not just M badges which many 3 series have because they choose the sport packages.

bogmanfan

el tel wrote:

When I see a debadged car I aways assume it's the crappiest model in the range.

Same here! Why else would you debadge it?

Wishbone Ash

ronoc wrote:

Are you sure they are not just M badges which many 3 series have because they choose the sport packages.

I was referring to bog standard models with plastic wheel trims and narrow wheels etc. with M3 badges.

bspoke

Friend of mine had a V6 4motion Passat and he debadged it after a few incidents. One when he was being followed home and a few cases of people trying to goad him into a race.

Now it looks like a bog standard 1.6 to the untrained eye

Lord Nikon

Mine had 214i in a chrome badge, but after 10 years the chrome wore off down to the black. I debadged mine and I think it looks better.

cargrouch

I get perverse pleasure from the idea of owning a 2.3L (or the 4motion, but I'm guessing that would have sporty bodykit?) Bora badged as a 1.4 with steel wheels, and seeing the shocked faces of boy racers everywhere:D

But then I remember that I'd still own a Bora.

Kermitt

bspoke wrote:

Friend of mine had a V6 4motion Passat and he debadged it after a few incidents. One when he was being followed home and a few cases of people trying to goad him into a race.

Now it looks like a bog standard 1.6 to the untrained eye

Trouble is the kind of people that want to steal a 4mothion passat have a trained eye, exhausts would be a dead giveaway, as would brake discs. though to yor average punter it would look normal right enough.

Friend of mine has a 1.4 golf , but has a 1.8T badge on it, bought from eBay - looks real, but doesn't match with base trim so I skit him the whole time!!

Ernie Ball

bogmanfan wrote:

Same here! Why else would you debadge it?

Lots of reasons. Here are three:

1) you find the badging cheap and ugly looking;

2) you don't believe in advertising for free;

3) your car is rare and debadging keeps them guessing what it is.

cargrouch

Kermitt wrote:

Friend of mine has a 1.4 golf , but has a 1.8T badge on it, ...I skit him the whole time!!

Rightly so, rightly so! The kind of people who do this secretly want to be ladyboys - looks ok at first glance but when you get closer you realise there's something horribly wrong.

smash

generally if there's no badge it's because it's a lower spec and people don't want to advertise that!

Eoin

Does debadging refer to just the engine size and trim level, or the make as well? I think getting rid of the front emblem could make for a duller looking car in a good few examples.

Mr Magnolia

De-badged is more aesthetically pleasing IMO

Villain

I'm actually thinking about de-badging mine at the moment, I'm so fed of people, going "jesus - 2.5ltr that must cost ya a fortune to run" and then of course you get the ones that ask you what "AWD" stands for!

Kermitt

Seem like a lot of it came from modifiers wanting to flush panels on their cars. Personally I wouldn't take badging off a car. Seems pointless - as pointless as as an exhaust the size of a sewer pipe on the back of a civic - or any car ever made by Rover - just pointless!!

mikedragon32

Kermitt wrote:

Trouble is the kind of people that want to steal a 4mothion passat have a trained eye, exhausts would be a dead giveaway, as would brake discs. though to yor average punter it would look normal right enough.

Friend of mine has a 1.4 golf , but has a 1.8T badge on it, bought from eBay - looks real, but doesn't match with base trim so I skit him the whole time!!

But a 1.8T has two exhausts...

That's just wrong!

Anan1

steve06 wrote:

generally if there's no badge it's because it's a lower spec and people don't want to advertise that!

The only function of a rear badge is to tell those behind you how big your engine is. Not being insecure enough to feel the need to advertise the size of my engine to people I don't even know, I can happily live without the badge.

LikeOhMyGawd!

Anan1 wrote:

The only function of a rear badge is to tell those behind you how big your engine is. Not being insecure enough to feel the need to advertise the size of my engine to people I don't even know, I can happily live without the badge.

It probably also comes in useful when it comes to buying/selling as a badge kinda identifies what model the car is and sorta reassures the prospective buyer that the seller hasn't done any other half-arsed modifications to the vehicle.

Anan1

LikeOhMyGawd! wrote:

It probably also comes in useful when it comes to buying/selling as a badge kinda identifies what model the car is and sorta reassures the prospective buyer that the seller hasn't done any other half-arsed modifications to the vehicle.

Badge delete is a factory option on many makes of car. I can't see how the absence of a power badge would indicate that the car might have been modified. It would also be a very simple buyer who relied on the badge to identify what model the car is.

kdevitt

I know of someone who had his BMW M5 robbed off him - they came into his bedroom and demanded the keys. He has another M5 now, badged as a 520i though.

I debadged my current and previous cars as I think it looks cleaner.

LikeOhMyGawd!

Anan1 wrote:

Badge delete is a factory option on many makes of car. I can't see how the absence of a power badge would indicate that the car might have been modified. It would also be a very simple buyer who relied on the badge to identify what model the car is.

Point taken on the badge delete. I take it this is more likely with higher-end vehicles? I was referring to the more run-of-the-mill cars which are owner debadged.


As for

Anan1 wrote:

a very simple buyer

that's pretty much 99% of the buyers in Ireland

Anan1

LikeOhMyGawd! wrote:

Point taken on the badge delete. I take it this is more likely with higher-end vehicles?

That's an interesting question. I'd imagine there are 3 main reasons for badge delete:

1. Small engine, owner doesn't want strangers to know this.

2. Big engine, owner doesn't want strangers to know this.

3. Aesthetic.

Funnily enough, 1. & 2. actually complement each other!

mike65

My Audi has top end spec but has a horrid 1.8 badge on the back! I'll have to de-badge and get my pride back!

Mike.

Eoin

mike65 wrote:

My Audi has top end spec but has a horrid 1.8 badge on the back! I'll have to de-badge and get my pride back!

Mike.

Or turn it upside down so people may think you have an 8.1 planet killer of an engine?

mike65

I like! Maybe I can find a V from somewhere and chop the 1

Mike.

Darando

kdevitt wrote:

I know of someone who had his BMW M5 robbed off him - they came into his bedroom and demanded the keys.

That doesnt sound too pleasant an experience. Worst nightmare.

colm_mcm

I really hate when people de-badge, then re-badge with completely wrong badges.

One of my neighbours has a Prelude with "X Type" from a Jag, on the back

Saw a Fiesta with "Type R" badges from a Honda on it.

A customer at work has an Avensis D-4D, he replaced the D-4D badge with a VW TDI badge.

cantdecide

colm_mcm wrote:

I really hate when people de-badge, then re-badge with completely wrong badges.

One of my neighbours has a Prelude with "X Type" from a Jag, on the back

Saw a Fiesta with "Type R" badges from a Honda on it.

A customer at work has an Avensis D-4D, he replaced the D-4D badge with a VW TDI badge.

i would puke!
i saw a '90 starlet in Tallow with the front bumper cut up, it had TRD in blue spraypaint stencilled across the radiator. i nearly crashed with laughter.

opus

Definitely a fan of removing the badge, have had it taken off the last two cars I bought. No interest in advertising the engine in the car to people.

colm_mcm

cantdecide wrote:

i would puke!
i saw a '90 starlet in Tallow with the front bumper cut up, it had TRD in blue spraypaint stencilled across the radiator. i nearly crashed with laughter.

Maybe they couldn't spell "TURD"

Oh, I saw a Micra in Palmerstown a few months with "TWIN CAN" written in huge writing on the side!

mike65

I love the nailed on Turbo badge myself.

Mike.

byte

Haha, this reminds me of an old mate some years ago who had an Opel Kadett! He had replaced the front Opel badge with a Ferrari one. Then one night, somebody had ripped off the Ferrari badge, along with half the grill!

colm_mcm

It could have been a Ferrari with a Kadett body

byte

colm_mcm wrote:

It could have been a Ferrari with a Kadett body

Highly unlikely with a 1.2L engine!

mloc123

I'm looking to buy either a saxo VTS or 206 Gti at the moment, if I get the Gti my first and only 'mod' will to be replace all the Gti badges with 1.1 lx or whatever the ****tiest spec is.

Suprise all the boy racers and bmw execs at the lights