Deal making in the Party $1million

Lafortezza

I was up late/early this morning, and was watching the final table of the $1 million guaranteed on Party. $215 to enter, 5k+ runners.
Down to the final 3 and they stop to discuss a deal, the chat and negotiations are open to observers.
Just wondering what people thought of this deal, who got the best of it, and what would people on this forum have done differently if anything?

This picture shows the chip counts 3-handed: Pipe_Dream is miles in front, the 2 shorties are very even.




This 2nd picture shows the proposed deal, encouraged by the 2 shortstack, the chip leader need to take a break and have a think. $30k off the top, $12.5k for each of the shorties, play on for the remaining $5k, proposed deal circled in red.




I thought the chat accompanying this was interesting, the 2 shortstacks were pros, and knew each other on a first name basis, one calling the other by his first name and asking him if he was going to Vegas this week. The chip leader seemed a little n00bish.


I've attached the chat during the deal-making if anyone's interested.

sunzz

That is one bad bad deal from my point of view. He easily had them dominated and they looked scared via the prize money and opted for a deal.

I would have said 50k each for you 2 and the remainder for me if they didn't like that then I'd have played on.

He seemed very very nervous, hell good look to him 120k for 215 quid and he probs qualafied via a sat.

5starpool

sunzz wrote:

I would have said 50k each for you 2 and the remainder for me if they didn't like that then I'd have played on.

That'd be a hell of a deal for the CL since the two shorties were both guaranteed over 52k for 3rd!!!!

Hawk Eye

You can't blame for taking the deal he prob felt they would have ganged up on him, this ****e "google it were pros" well I think skill level and what you have done in the past should not come into deal making. I know some of you may have different views on this.
It would be interesting to know what the blinds were at this point.

Theres no question he got shafted by like 12k if you run it through this his equity is 46.7% so his actual earnings should have been 137k. Thats not taking into a/c the 5k they took off which is pointless IMO.

cooker3

Well I think it's clear they were trying to take advantage of his nervousness and trying to push the fact they are pros. If I am him I am not accepting any deal, no matter how good they are, they will need a of luck to take him so not worth it imo

BigDragon

Westexasman = Shawn Rice

RoundTower

If he is really a muppet and knows it this deal isn't too bad for him, depending how big the blinds are. But he is definitely giving up something in equity and the other two players know it. If all players were equally skilled he would expect 137k as Hawk Eye says, this deal offers him more like 128k on average.

I would take this deal in a heartbeat as the short stack again assuming the chip leader wasn't a total moron.

Poker & Pints

Personally, I think it is a terrible deal. 21k lost there, he should have never made a deal period. Depending on the blinds he probably could have waited it out. I don't know the standard of the guys play, but I would imagine he could have dominated them. And pretty obvious from the chat these guys jacked him. I think at best he gets 130k right away and the other two take 70k and play for the remainder(20k). This guy gave up the majority while the second place guy basically gave up nothing.

RoundTower

that deal would be hugely in HIS favour.

MrPillowTalk

If I was cl I would be saying I accept nothing but first place money, you bots do what you want re: 2nd and 3rd.

And also if I was the shortstack player I wouldnt take it either yout gaining what, 10K and you give up a shot at nearly 90k more if you managed a comeback, I reckon as a shortstack there Im still better than 9/1 to win it.

strewelpeter

MrPillowTalk wrote:

If I was cl I would be saying I accept nothing but first place money, you bots do what you want re: 2nd and 3rd.

And also if I was the shortstack player I wouldnt take it either yout gaining what, 10K and you give up a shot at nearly 90k more if you managed a comeback, I reckon as a shortstack there Im still better than 9/1 to win it.

I'm inclined to agree but the chat does have the faintest ring of a threat about it. I think it woulda been enough to worry me into dealing.
I'm surprised he didn't just offer them 12.x to allow them to split 75 each. I'm think they woulda taken that.

Mellor

It was unlikely that one of them would of taken his stack off them. But what if they cut a deal between themselves. If one of them "loses" all their chips to each other, then his CL is down to a very small margin.

One thing that nobody has asked yet is, when they played on, who won the remaining 5K?

DeVore

I wouldnt have accepted it as CL but I might have made a counter offer of 5k each and stuck to it or settled for 7k each depending on circumstances etc

DeV.

Lafortezza

Mellor wrote:

One thing that nobody has asked yet is, when they played on, who won the remaining 5K?

The chip leader Pipe_Dream won the remaining 5k.
The thing about the chat that got me was that I got the impression that the two pros might play 'differently' if the chip leader refused to take the deal they proposed.